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Don White September 28th 07 05:48 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html



JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 06:12 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html



Any idea what would've happened if he HAD declared the handgun, and it had
been stored safely? I was under the impression they were banned completely.



Reginald P. Smithers III September 28th 07 06:16 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes. Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.

The dumb ass in your article shouldn't have lied. Lying is never a good
policy.


Don loves to look for an article that presents Americans in a bad light.

I remember when he used a poor Canadian woman's death as a troll about
how unsafe the US is. The problem is the exact same week there were
many Canadians who died in Canada from violence. It is sort of Canadian
on Canadian violence and it is epidemic north of the border. In the US
we have very little Canadian on Canadian violence, even though it would
be considered justifiable.




JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 06:21 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes. Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.

The dumb ass in your article shouldn't have lied. Lying is never a good
policy.


Don loves to look for an article that presents Americans in a bad light.

I remember when he used a poor Canadian woman's death as a troll about how
unsafe the US is. The problem is the exact same week there were many
Canadians who died in Canada from violence. It is sort of Canadian on
Canadian violence and it is epidemic north of the border. In the US we
have very little Canadian on Canadian violence, even though it would be
considered justifiable.



I didn't interpret it that way. I saw it as a comment on a type of person
already know to be disconnected from reality. The preacher either didn't
bother to check the rules, or he figured he could get away with lying about
the gun. Personally, I think Canada's gun laws are a joke, but it's not my
country and the law has to be obeyed.



Reginald P. Smithers III September 28th 07 06:22 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html

Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes. Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.

The dumb ass in your article shouldn't have lied. Lying is never a good
policy.

Don loves to look for an article that presents Americans in a bad light.

I remember when he used a poor Canadian woman's death as a troll about how
unsafe the US is. The problem is the exact same week there were many
Canadians who died in Canada from violence. It is sort of Canadian on
Canadian violence and it is epidemic north of the border. In the US we
have very little Canadian on Canadian violence, even though it would be
considered justifiable.



I didn't interpret it that way. I saw it as a comment on a type of person
already know to be disconnected from reality. The preacher either didn't
bother to check the rules, or he figured he could get away with lying about
the gun. Personally, I think Canada's gun laws are a joke, but it's not my
country and the law has to be obeyed.



You might be right, but he does love to post links that make the US look
silly. Heck there are too many dumb people all over the world to bother
cut and pasting every stupid human trick.


JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 06:24 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html

Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes.
Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.

The dumb ass in your article shouldn't have lied. Lying is never a good
policy.
Don loves to look for an article that presents Americans in a bad light.

I remember when he used a poor Canadian woman's death as a troll about
how unsafe the US is. The problem is the exact same week there were
many Canadians who died in Canada from violence. It is sort of Canadian
on Canadian violence and it is epidemic north of the border. In the US
we have very little Canadian on Canadian violence, even though it would
be considered justifiable.



I didn't interpret it that way. I saw it as a comment on a type of person
already know to be disconnected from reality. The preacher either didn't
bother to check the rules, or he figured he could get away with lying
about the gun. Personally, I think Canada's gun laws are a joke, but it's
not my country and the law has to be obeyed.


You might be right, but he does love to post links that make the US look
silly. Heck there are too many dumb people all over the world to bother
cut and pasting every stupid human trick.


Some are too good to not share. Don't miss the last paragraph.
http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...23880720070926



Don White September 28th 07 06:57 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes.
Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.

The dumb ass in your article shouldn't have lied. Lying is never a good
policy.


Don loves to look for an article that presents Americans in a bad light.

I remember when he used a poor Canadian woman's death as a troll about
how unsafe the US is. The problem is the exact same week there were many
Canadians who died in Canada from violence. It is sort of Canadian on
Canadian violence and it is epidemic north of the border. In the US we
have very little Canadian on Canadian violence, even though it would be
considered justifiable.



I didn't interpret it that way. I saw it as a comment on a type of person
already know to be disconnected from reality. The preacher either didn't
bother to check the rules, or he figured he could get away with lying
about the gun. Personally, I think Canada's gun laws are a joke, but it's
not my country and the law has to be obeyed.

I see the idiot Smithers is still spreading his crap about that unfortunate
lady who went home to the States and was gunned down in New Orleans.
She was an American....she had just worked up here for a number of years.
If Smithers is so worried about America's image, he should start to improve
his own.
http://www.thesimpsons.com/bios/bios...e_smithers.htm



John H. September 28th 07 07:03 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes. Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.

The dumb ass in your article shouldn't have lied. Lying is never a good
policy.

[email protected] September 28th 07 07:37 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...


Gene Kearns September 28th 07 07:42 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0300, Don White penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Yeah, I agree, we have our share of wacky preachers down here.......

But I don't see that has anything to do with *this*. If I was
traveling in my motorHOME, I would be carrying protection, too. In
fact, I carry protection in my own home. A .357 is not a large
caliber.

A trigger lock is just stupid. "Excuse me, Mr. [Rapist | Murderer |
Thief | Criminal Whatever] you must wait a moment whilst I remove the
government mandated safety lock before you begin your dirty deeds."
Sheesh..... idiocy.....

This is all about requiring US citizens exercising their
constitutional rights to pay a $25 tribute to Canada for carrying a
legal weapon.

If he unwisely chose to cross the border and play in the wrong
sandbox, he should have declared and paid....

--

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Gene Kearns September 28th 07 07:43 PM

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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:21:02 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

I think Canada's gun laws are a joke, but it's not my
country and the law has to be obeyed.


Look in any history book under the heading "Boston Tea Party."

The inmates only run the asylum when we allow them.....

--

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Eisboch September 28th 07 08:58 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

John H. wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes.
Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.



Think they'd bother me on my Harley with the clergy sticker on the
windshield?

Rev. Eisboch



Don White September 28th 07 09:02 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , Don White
sprach
forth the following:

Note to all whacko preachers.


So now interest in self-defense makes one "whacko"? **** you.


Not in your wildest dreams.
I hear Smither is available though.



Don White September 28th 07 09:05 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...




Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of carrying
a firearm...let alone a church official.



HK September 28th 07 09:48 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...



Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of carrying
a firearm...let alone a church official.


No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.



"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or
target shooting.

JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 10:01 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html

Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...




Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of
carrying
a firearm...let alone a church official.


No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.



They still have hunters and target shooters. But, Canada's been infected by
the same sort of anti-handgun putzes we have here.

Here's some reading that should interest and/or confuse you. Apparently, the
provinces don't exactly agree on gun control.
http://panda.com/canadaguns/



HK September 28th 07 10:03 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of carrying
a firearm...let alone a church official.

No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.


"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or
target shooting.


There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.

Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !



"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or
target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


Reginald P. Smithers III September 28th 07 10:25 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...


Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of
carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.


No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.



"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or
target shooting.


When I read Don's comment about carrying a firearm, I thought he meant
anyone transporting a weapon for any reason, including hunting, target
shotting and any other reason someone might transport a firearm,
including using the gun to comment a crime.

Reginald P. Smithers III September 28th 07 10:28 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home
when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of
carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or target shooting.


There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !



"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or
target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that
is the way Don was using the term.

JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 10:30 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home
when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested
in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting,
or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of
carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I
go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !



"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or
target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that is
the way Don was using the term.



The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a legally
owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required.



JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 10:35 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:28:13 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home
when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of
carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I
go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !


"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or
target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that
is the way Don was using the term.


Speaking of fortuitous...how nice that you should mention Tilley hats as I
was in the market for a hat. And, at the same time, the closest store
carrying Tilley's was having a 20% off sale. Now we are both proud owners
of a Tilley. They are a very comfortable hat!


They are great hats. But, are they still claiming that they float? If so,
don't believe it for a moment. I lost one a couple of years ago when some
serious wind blew it off my head. It landed 10 feet away in the water, and
sank instantly.



Reginald P. Smithers III September 28th 07 10:35 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home
when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested
in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting,
or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...
Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of
carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.
"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or target shooting.
There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If I
go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting or
target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.

I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that is
the way Don was using the term.



The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a legally
owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required.


Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?

Since i don't own a guy, if you are going to the range or out to the
woods for target practice, don't you carry it on the seat in plan view,
or in the trunk of the car (I really don't know the legal way to bring a
guy to the range)?

Wouldn't that be considered "carrying" if a cop stopped you?

I have always thought if I needed a weapon to protect myself while
cruising, it would be a shotgun or a flare, not some tiny little 357.




Reginald P. Smithers III September 28th 07 10:37 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
John H. wrote:


Speaking of fortuitous...how nice that you should mention Tilley hats as I
was in the market for a hat. And, at the same time, the closest store
carrying Tilley's was having a 20% off sale. Now we are both proud owners
of a Tilley. They are a very comfortable hat!


And are great on the boat.

John H. September 28th 07 10:38 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:02:01 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
. ..
In message , Don White
sprach
forth the following:

Note to all whacko preachers.


So now interest in self-defense makes one "whacko"? **** you.


Not in your wildest dreams.
I hear Smither is available though.

*****************************
Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from "Don White",
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.
*****************************

Wow, Don. You just don't stop, do you? You can't deny that you tend to post
articles derogatory of the USA. That may be jealousy or it may be
bitterness, I don't know. But, you surely expect someone in the USA to
comment on your negative attitude, no?

Being semi-sociable won't hurt you. Give it a shot.

John H. September 28th 07 10:39 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:58:43 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
. ..

John H. wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes.
Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.



Think they'd bother me on my Harley with the clergy sticker on the
windshield?

Rev. Eisboch


They look at motorcyclists *very* carefully! We're all carrying drugs and
guns, doncha know.

John H. September 28th 07 10:40 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:57:40 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the border...
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Sure was glad I left the guns at home on my last motorcycle trip to
Montreal! The Canadian customs did do a quick search of both bikes.
Hell,
two 50 year-olds on Moto Guzzis are worrisome customers.

The dumb ass in your article shouldn't have lied. Lying is never a good
policy.

Don loves to look for an article that presents Americans in a bad light.

I remember when he used a poor Canadian woman's death as a troll about
how unsafe the US is. The problem is the exact same week there were many
Canadians who died in Canada from violence. It is sort of Canadian on
Canadian violence and it is epidemic north of the border. In the US we
have very little Canadian on Canadian violence, even though it would be
considered justifiable.



I didn't interpret it that way. I saw it as a comment on a type of person
already know to be disconnected from reality. The preacher either didn't
bother to check the rules, or he figured he could get away with lying
about the gun. Personally, I think Canada's gun laws are a joke, but it's
not my country and the law has to be obeyed.

I see the idiot Smithers ...


snipped

*****************************
Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from "Don White",
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.
*****************************


HK September 28th 07 10:41 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home
when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If
I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !



"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that
is the way Don was using the term.



"Carrying" typically means carrying on your person a concealed firearm
for personal protection. In many states, you have to have a state-issued
permit to carry a concealed weapon in states that recognizes your
permit. I have such a permit.

John H. September 28th 07 10:41 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html


Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...




Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think of carrying
a firearm...let alone a church official.


No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 10:42 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..


The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a legally
owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required.

Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?

Since i don't own a guy, if you are going to the range or out to the woods
for target practice, don't you carry it on the seat in plan view, or in
the trunk of the car (I really don't know the legal way to bring a guy to
the range)?

Wouldn't that be considered "carrying" if a cop stopped you?

I have always thought if I needed a weapon to protect myself while
cruising, it would be a shotgun or a flare, not some tiny little 357.



How old are you? The information will assist me in answering your questions.



HK September 28th 07 10:42 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message . ..
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at
home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and
would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just
wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not
unusual...
hummmmm...
Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have
sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.
"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting.
There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon.
If I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.

I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think
that is the way Don was using the term.



The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a
legally owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required.

Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?



That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.

JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 10:44 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"HK" wrote in message
...



That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.


And lawd almighty it's a stupid idea.....



Reginald P. Smithers III September 28th 07 10:45 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at
home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If
I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !


"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think
that is the way Don was using the term.



"Carrying" typically means carrying on your person a concealed firearm
for personal protection. In many states, you have to have a state-issued
permit to carry a concealed weapon in states that recognizes your
permit. I have such a permit.


I think that highlights the "cultural" issue Don was talking about. If
you don't have CCW permit, how does one bring the gun from the home to
the range? I would assume you keep the gun unloaded, with the bullets
in one place and the gun in another (seat in plan view and trunk), but I
am just guessing.






Reginald P. Smithers III September 28th 07 10:45 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..

The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a legally
owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required.

Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?

Since i don't own a guy, if you are going to the range or out to the woods
for target practice, don't you carry it on the seat in plan view, or in
the trunk of the car (I really don't know the legal way to bring a guy to
the range)?

Wouldn't that be considered "carrying" if a cop stopped you?

I have always thought if I needed a weapon to protect myself while
cruising, it would be a shotgun or a flare, not some tiny little 357.



How old are you? The information will assist me in answering your questions.



In my 50's.

HK September 28th 07 10:46 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:03:25 -0400, HK wrote:

BTW, what model 4Runner do you have. I'm getting pretty serious about
getting one in the next week or so. I'm thinking of the basic SR5 as the
leather in the limited doesn't impress me, and neither does the fancy
suspension of the Sport.

I do want the V8 and the towing package!



I've got the Sport V8 with the V8's part-time 4WD. It is the best "car"
I have ever owned, in terms of "no problems," terrific ride for what it
is (a truck frame based SUV), roominess in a reasonably sized "big"
vehicle, and not bad mileage on the highway.

I'm thinking of getting another.

If there is a tire option, get a set of Michelins.

HK September 28th 07 10:50 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at
home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and
would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just
wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not
unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have
sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon.
If I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !


"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think
that is the way Don was using the term.



"Carrying" typically means carrying on your person a concealed firearm
for personal protection. In many states, you have to have a
state-issued permit to carry a concealed weapon in states that
recognizes your permit. I have such a permit.


I think that highlights the "cultural" issue Don was talking about. If
you don't have CCW permit, how does one bring the gun from the home to
the range? I would assume you keep the gun unloaded, with the bullets
in one place and the gun in another (seat in plan view and trunk), but I
am just guessing.







In your trunk, or in a locked box, with unloaded magazines. About as you
described.

Now, when I go out to the Shenandoah property, I wear my pistol in its
holster, "unconcealed," but my concealed permit is recognized by
Virginia. I wear the pistol open because of the reasonable chance of
encountering packs of feral dogs.

The pistol I typically carry out there is a SIG X5, with a capacity of
20 rounds. The gun is quite heavy for what it is, and mechanically very,
very fast, so firing off a lot of rounds in a hurry, even one-handed if
you have to, is not a considerable task. There's no real barrel flip.
You need that ability with attacking dogs, or with any large animal that
wants you for lunch.

HK September 28th 07 10:52 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:42:42 -0400, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message . ..
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at
home when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and
would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just
wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not
unusual...
hummmmm...
Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have
sure changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.
"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting.
There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon.
If I go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !
"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting or target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.

I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think
that is the way Don was using the term.

The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a
legally owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where required.

Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?


That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.


Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a
target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it.



I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be
wrong. I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?}

JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 10:55 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"HK" wrote in message
. ..


That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.


Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a
target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it.



I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be wrong.
I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?}


I'd like to meet someone who thinks open carry is a good idea, just to see
how much they drool in any 30 second period of time.



JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 10:56 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..

The most common definition means a law abiding citizen carrying a
legally owned handgun, probably concealed, with a permit where
required.
Let me make sure I understand this. In the west, it is common to see
people with a guy in a holster, in plan sight. Wouldn't they be
considered to be carrying?

Since i don't own a guy, if you are going to the range or out to the
woods for target practice, don't you carry it on the seat in plan view,
or in the trunk of the car (I really don't know the legal way to bring a
guy to the range)?

Wouldn't that be considered "carrying" if a cop stopped you?

I have always thought if I needed a weapon to protect myself while
cruising, it would be a shotgun or a flare, not some tiny little 357.



How old are you? The information will assist me in answering your
questions.


In my 50's.



I was kidding. I was just curious.



JoeSpareBedroom September 28th 07 10:58 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:35:16 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:28:13 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:45 -0400, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:39 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:48 pm, "Don White" wrote:
Note to all whacko preachers...leave your shootin' irons at home
when
travelling north of the
border...http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/914569.html
Hey, I worked in "Gunnersvull'. But why is the writer so
interested in
the church connection. Is there something there we are not
getting, or
is he just somehow trying to paint religeon/conservatives/guns
etc
into one picture? Why was the mans occupation even noted, and
would
the story have been written if he was say a barber? Just
wondering,
the writer seems to indicate this type of seizure is not
unusual...
hummmmm...

Cultural thing I suppose. Up here, normal people wouldn't think
of
carrying a firearm...let alone a church official.
No hunters or target shooters in Canada, huh? Wow, times have sure
changed
since my uncle took me hunting up there.

"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going
hunting
or target shooting.

There may be others who carry a firearm, but hunters and target
shooters
also carry them. When I go to a pistol range, I carry the weapon. If
I
go
hunting, I carry a firearm.
Of course, I may not fit someone's definition of 'normal' !


"Carrying" implies something quite a bit different than going hunting
or
target shooting and "carrying" your firearm with you.


I think I know what you are talking about, and "carrying" might mean
"packing heat" to some criminal elements, but I really don't think that
is the way Don was using the term.

Speaking of fortuitous...how nice that you should mention Tilley hats as
I
was in the market for a hat. And, at the same time, the closest store
carrying Tilley's was having a 20% off sale. Now we are both proud
owners
of a Tilley. They are a very comfortable hat!


They are great hats. But, are they still claiming that they float? If so,
don't believe it for a moment. I lost one a couple of years ago when some
serious wind blew it off my head. It landed 10 feet away in the water, and
sank instantly.

They say:

Like the Titanic, it Floats.

It Can Also Sink.
One reason your Hat floats is because of the air trapped inside the
water-repellent fibres. The main reason, however, is the layer of
closed-cell polyethylene foam in the crown of the Hat that also protects
your noggin from blunt objects. (People have told us this feature has
actually saved their lives!)

Certain types of wave action can sink your Hat - and you. You will find
that your Tilley will neither sink - nor fly overboard - as long as you
are
wearing the cord behind your head and under your chin.



Lies! All lies! But still, it's a great hat. I've got the huge one - the
T2, if I recall. It's kept me dry even after 2 hours in the rain. It's a
hands-free umbrella.



HK September 28th 07 10:58 PM

Those whacky Southern preachers
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

That's called "open carry." Very few states allow that, typically states
out west, though I believe Virginia allows it.
Virginia allows concealed, with a permit. If I'm carrying a pistol into a
target range, or a gun shop, there's nothing illegal about it.


I'm fairly certain Virginia also allows open carry, but I could be wrong.
I was wrong once before, in 1983. :?}


I'd like to meet someone who thinks open carry is a good idea, just to see
how much they drool in any 30 second period of time.




I've read posters on gun boards talking about their "open carry" around
the state. I only "open carry" out in the country, hiking along forest
trails on the mountain ranges or accesses to them, or on the property.
There are feral dogs and bears around for sure, and there have been
mountain lion sightings.


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