HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 27, 2:56 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:12:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.
I'd go for the triples 350s if you really want outboards. It should
still run on plane with 2, problematic with one. You can always tilt
up the middle and run on twins for "economy" mode, such as it is.
Personally I'd prefer twin inboard diesels on a boat that size.
I agree. It's funny that for a guy who drives and appreciates a diesel
powered truck,

Not anymore

SWF seems to have an aversion to diesel powered boats. It's
not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although with the
right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

Diesel inboards would be better for close quarter handling, fuel economy
and, (arguably) reliability for long runs.

Eisboch





If I were in the market for an offshore fishing boat in that size
category, I'd want a heavier boat with twin diesels. Maybe something
like this:

http://www.badmarine.com/New%20Boats.html


The Orca 37, about a third the way down the page.

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:19:29 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:12:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.
I'd go for the triples 350s if you really want outboards. It should
still run on plane with 2, problematic with one. You can always tilt
up the middle and run on twins for "economy" mode, such as it is.
Personally I'd prefer twin inboard diesels on a boat that size.
I agree. It's funny that for a guy who drives and appreciates a diesel
powered truck, SWF seems to have an aversion to diesel powered boats.
It's not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although
with the right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

Diesel inboards would be better for close quarter handling, fuel
economy and, (arguably) reliability for long runs.

Eisboch

But the Yamahas give him a chance to buy into solid, four cycle outboard
technology!
I've had lots of 'boat ho's' in the bay contribute $20 for gas. I don't
know if I could ask them to chip in $220!

You should be well pleased with the fuel burn on your new Yamaha.

I never ask guests to chip in for gas. I think it is a bit tacky to ask
when you invited them to go out.




I typically don't ask, but my fishing buddies volunteer and they buy the
bait if we are using bought bait and the ice. I was out a couple of days
ago with two buddies, and we burned about 15 gallons of gas. On the way
home, they insisted we stop by a gas station and they split the cost of
pumping in about 20 gallons.

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:19:29 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:12:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.
I'd go for the triples 350s if you really want outboards. It should
still run on plane with 2, problematic with one. You can always tilt
up the middle and run on twins for "economy" mode, such as it is.
Personally I'd prefer twin inboard diesels on a boat that size.

I agree. It's funny that for a guy who drives and appreciates a diesel
powered truck, SWF seems to have an aversion to diesel powered boats. It's
not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although with the
right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

Diesel inboards would be better for close quarter handling, fuel economy
and, (arguably) reliability for long runs.

Eisboch



But the Yamahas give him a chance to buy into solid, four cycle outboard
technology!

I've had lots of 'boat ho's' in the bay contribute $20 for gas. I don't
know if I could ask them to chip in $220!

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:29:50 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Sep 26, 5:28?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=494

Pobbisly with F350s - I want to test drive a few first before I make
up my mind on power.

If you would consider "settling" for a 36 footer instead of the 38,
this might be a good buy. Only 200 hours on this 2 year old boat.
Under $250k. Not all that far from you, either.

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/b...id=4184&url =

Thanks Chuck - appreciate it.

I saw that one last night - very similar to my 32' Fisharound only a
few feet longer.

That is an option for sure.

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:56:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:12:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.

I'd go for the triples 350s if you really want outboards. It should
still run on plane with 2, problematic with one. You can always tilt
up the middle and run on twins for "economy" mode, such as it is.
Personally I'd prefer twin inboard diesels on a boat that size.

I agree. It's funny that for a guy who drives and appreciates a diesel
powered truck, SWF seems to have an aversion to diesel powered boats. It's
not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although with the
right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

Diesel inboards would be better for close quarter handling, fuel economy
and, (arguably) reliability for long runs.

I'm not adverse to diesels. Correctly or incorrectly, my view is that
for boats of this style and type, outboards are the better choice.

Now if I were to purchase a boat like your Navigator, Chuck's
Sundowner or Wayne's GB - heck, Mrs. E's GB for that matter, then
diesels are the correct choice.

However, for a boat styled like the Contender, and considering the
type of running I like to do and given the length, in my opinion
outboards are a better choice for what I do, how I work and the type
of fishing that I prefer to do offshore.

Having said that, if I were to purchase a 48/50' class Hatteras,
Bertie or Viking - that type of boat, then definetly diesels.

For this size and type of boat, I'm not at all convinced that diesels
offer any more of an advantage.

I could be mistaken in my belief and would be perfectly willing to go
the diesel route given the same level of performance. I have been on
a new 32' Topaz and all things considered, felt just so-so with the
overall performance.

I just think that for this type boat, and the way I tend to run the
boat, outboards are the preferred power system.

By the way, I disagree with the close quarter manuevering, but that's
another discussion.

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:03:21 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:56:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

It's
not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although with the
right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

It's been my experience that when conditions get rough, we all run at
the same speed. The only difference is that I don't have to slow
down. :-)

LOL!!

Gotta give you that one.

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:19:29 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:12:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.
I'd go for the triples 350s if you really want outboards. It should
still run on plane with 2, problematic with one. You can always tilt
up the middle and run on twins for "economy" mode, such as it is.
Personally I'd prefer twin inboard diesels on a boat that size.

I agree. It's funny that for a guy who drives and appreciates a diesel
powered truck, SWF seems to have an aversion to diesel powered boats. It's
not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although with the
right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

Diesel inboards would be better for close quarter handling, fuel economy
and, (arguably) reliability for long runs.

But the Yamahas give him a chance to buy into solid, four cycle outboard
technology!

We'll see about that - I scheduled to run a Blue Fin with a 350 Yamaha
on Saturday.

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:50:01 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:19:29 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:12:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.
I'd go for the triples 350s if you really want outboards. It should
still run on plane with 2, problematic with one. You can always tilt
up the middle and run on twins for "economy" mode, such as it is.
Personally I'd prefer twin inboard diesels on a boat that size.
I agree. It's funny that for a guy who drives and appreciates a diesel
powered truck, SWF seems to have an aversion to diesel powered boats. It's
not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although with the
right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

Diesel inboards would be better for close quarter handling, fuel economy
and, (arguably) reliability for long runs.

Eisboch


But the Yamahas give him a chance to buy into solid, four cycle outboard
technology!

I've had lots of 'boat ho's' in the bay contribute $20 for gas. I don't
know if I could ask them to chip in $220!


You should be well pleased with the fuel burn on your new Yamaha.

I'm sure it'll be much better than that 5.7L Mercruiser. I think that thing
burned gas while it was off!

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:26:43 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:19:29 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:12:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.
I'd go for the triples 350s if you really want outboards. It should
still run on plane with 2, problematic with one. You can always tilt
up the middle and run on twins for "economy" mode, such as it is.
Personally I'd prefer twin inboard diesels on a boat that size.
I agree. It's funny that for a guy who drives and appreciates a diesel
powered truck, SWF seems to have an aversion to diesel powered boats.
It's not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although
with the right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

Diesel inboards would be better for close quarter handling, fuel
economy and, (arguably) reliability for long runs.

Eisboch

But the Yamahas give him a chance to buy into solid, four cycle outboard
technology!

I've had lots of 'boat ho's' in the bay contribute $20 for gas. I don't
know if I could ask them to chip in $220!


You should be well pleased with the fuel burn on your new Yamaha.

I never ask guests to chip in for gas. I think it is a bit tacky to ask
when you invited them to go out.


Good attitude.

You're obviously not familiar with the 'boat ho' concept as practiced in
the bay. People will request to be a 'boat ho' on a fishing forum for a
given day. The request includes an offer to split gas and bait. It's a nice
way to meet new people!

On Sep 27, 4:12 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.


I thought he was talking matching Ford diesel pick up trucks.

One for he, and one for the miss's