Well, I've made up my mind...
 

On Sep 27, 5:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Having said that, if I were to purchase a 48/50' class Hatteras,
Bertie or Viking - that type of boat, then definetly diesels.

You mean, there AORE other power options on a craft that size?

For this size and type of boat, I'm not at all convinced that diesels
offer any more of an advantage.

How about jet turbines?

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

Tim wrote:
On Sep 27, 5:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Having said that, if I were to purchase a 48/50' class Hatteras,
Bertie or Viking - that type of boat, then definetly diesels.

You mean, there AORE other power options on a craft that size?

For this size and type of boat, I'm not at all convinced that diesels
offer any more of an advantage.

How about jet turbines?



Or a surplus nuclear power plant from a mothballed submarine.

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:49:57 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Sep 27, 5:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Having said that, if I were to purchase a 48/50' class Hatteras,
Bertie or Viking - that type of boat, then definetly diesels.

You mean, there AORE other power options on a craft that size?

No - just that diesels would be the only option and I wouldn't object
to them in that scenario.

For this size and type of boat, I'm not at all convinced that diesels
offer any more of an advantage.

How about jet turbines?

Or that.

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:55:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Sep 27, 5:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Having said that, if I were to purchase a 48/50' class Hatteras,
Bertie or Viking - that type of boat, then definetly diesels.

You mean, there AORE other power options on a craft that size?

For this size and type of boat, I'm not at all convinced that diesels
offer any more of an advantage.

How about jet turbines?

Or a surplus nuclear power plant from a mothballed submarine.

That's a thought.

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:55:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Or a surplus nuclear power plant from a mothballed submarine.

Last January I met the guy who is in charge of all USN reactors. I
asked him if he could do anything for a GB49 but he wasn't too
encouraging.

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:56:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:12:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When I saw you were thinking about twin F350's I thought it might be
overkill, until I saw the boat.

I'd go for the triples 350s if you really want outboards. It should
still run on plane with 2, problematic with one. You can always tilt
up the middle and run on twins for "economy" mode, such as it is.
Personally I'd prefer twin inboard diesels on a boat that size.

I agree. It's funny that for a guy who drives and appreciates a diesel
powered truck, SWF seems to have an aversion to diesel powered boats.
It's
not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although with the
right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

Diesel inboards would be better for close quarter handling, fuel economy
and, (arguably) reliability for long runs.

I'm not adverse to diesels. Correctly or incorrectly, my view is that
for boats of this style and type, outboards are the better choice.

Now if I were to purchase a boat like your Navigator, Chuck's
Sundowner or Wayne's GB - heck, Mrs. E's GB for that matter, then
diesels are the correct choice.

However, for a boat styled like the Contender, and considering the
type of running I like to do and given the length, in my opinion
outboards are a better choice for what I do, how I work and the type
of fishing that I prefer to do offshore.

Having said that, if I were to purchase a 48/50' class Hatteras,
Bertie or Viking - that type of boat, then definetly diesels.

For this size and type of boat, I'm not at all convinced that diesels
offer any more of an advantage.

I could be mistaken in my belief and would be perfectly willing to go
the diesel route given the same level of performance. I have been on
a new 32' Topaz and all things considered, felt just so-so with the
overall performance.

I just think that for this type boat, and the way I tend to run the
boat, outboards are the preferred power system.

By the way, I disagree with the close quarter manuevering, but that's
another discussion.

The bigger jetboats have started to go to diesels. Yanmars and Cummins.
The owners have raved about the power and fuel economy. Pricision Weld and
Hells Canyon Marine (HCM) have both sold them

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:56:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

It's
not all about speed offshore as the boats get bigger, although with the
right turbo diesels, he'd have plenty of it.

It's been my experience that when conditions get rough, we all run at
the same speed. The only difference is that I don't have to slow
down. :-)


I don't even have to slow down to observe the speed limit coming into the
harbor channel. (GB)

I learned a lesson with the Egg Harbor we had for a couple of years. It was
a 37 footer and of the newer (2002) design that made it lighter. It was
powered by twin 450hp Cats and was capable of WOT speeds in excess of 35
kts. Big deal. In anything over 2-3 foot seas, the damn thing went
airborne, crashing back hard enough to loosen your teeth.

Most of our "high speed" cruising out to the fishing spots was at 19 -20 kts
which, ironically, is the much heavier Navigator's normal cruise even in
heavier seas.

Eisboch

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


But the Yamahas give him a chance to buy into solid, four cycle outboard
technology!


Nothing more solid than a pair of four cycle diesels. Or even two cycle, if
anybody still makes 'em.

Eisboch

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

For this size and type of boat, I'm not at all convinced that diesels
offer any more of an advantage.

I could be mistaken in my belief and would be perfectly willing to go
the diesel route given the same level of performance. I have been on
a new 32' Topaz and all things considered, felt just so-so with the
overall performance.

I just think that for this type boat, and the way I tend to run the
boat, outboards are the preferred power system.



There's a female in Australia selling big diesel outboards.

Eisboch

Well, I've made up my mind...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

But the Yamahas give him a chance to buy into solid, four cycle outboard
technology!


Nothing more solid than a pair of four cycle diesels. Or even two cycle, if
anybody still makes 'em.

Eisboch




I actually saw one of those Japanese (Yanmar?) diesels once, long ago
and far away. It was on a crabber's workboat. I think I remember that it
seemed noisy.

There obviously is a way to put a high output, lightweight diesel in
cars (recall that an Audi diesel was the first diesel to win at Le Mans
- an aluminum, 5.5-liter, 12-cylinder that produced more than 650 hp)
and if there is a market for it, in boats and perhaps someday in an
outboard.

I wouldn't mind a diesel-powered jet (water pump) deep vee fishing boat.