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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:33:08 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Let's say there was really a god, and one day, she reaches down, picks up
the White House and the Kremlin, and yells their occupants "OK you
knuckleheads - listen up. All your geological predictions are wrong. You
have exactly 5 years worth of oil left, and don't doubt me on this. I'm
already in a mood. I'm gonna put your buildings back now, and I'm warning
you - don't start making stupid speeches (as usual) until you've thought
this over. It should take you about a day. Here's a hint that'll give you
a
headache: Weight Watchers."

Then, she puts the White House in Moscow and the Kremlin in Washington
(making landscapers cringe because the feng shui is all wrong).

I wonder what would happen.


In about 10 hours the acid would wear off and you would say "what a
trip"

Seriously Thomas Friedman summed it up best the other night on CSpan.
The contribution of pollution from the developing world will dwarf
what we will produce in the next 100 years, even if we do nothing and
anything we really can do will be insignificant.
It is going to get hotter, plan on that. It is the result of an
industrial society and the 3d world will become more industrialized,
whether we like it or not. They will take the cheapest path. That is
not even oil, it is coal.
Enviromnentalism is a rich man's folly. Poor people just want it now,
however they can get it.


I was sort of wondering if anyone might learn to walk, or maybe take buses,
even if it meant having to sit next to "those kinds of people", as a
neighbor of mine once said.

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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:54:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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I was sort of wondering if anyone might learn to walk, or maybe take
buses,
even if it meant having to sit next to "those kinds of people", as a
neighbor of mine once said.

The problem is not the Americans, it is a billion Chinese who all want
a car. They won't be buying a Prius. China already showed us how they
feel about the Montreal protocol when they said they were making CFC
refrigerators for their people.


I guess you're right. We're blameless. It's always been that way.

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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:48:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:54:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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I was sort of wondering if anyone might learn to walk, or maybe take
buses,
even if it meant having to sit next to "those kinds of people", as a
neighbor of mine once said.

The problem is not the Americans, it is a billion Chinese who all want
a car. They won't be buying a Prius. China already showed us how they
feel about the Montreal protocol when they said they were making CFC
refrigerators for their people.


I guess you're right. We're blameless. It's always been that way.


We are not blameless. It is the consumer lifestyle that we created and
the rest of the world covets that is to blame.


I have a question for you. Car #1 gets 17 mpg. Car #2 gets 25 mpg. In
percentage terms, how much more mileage does car #2 get?