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For the first time in my memory, the town of Scituate recently instituted a
mandatory outdoor watering ban that specifically includes washing of boats in the various marinas in town. Use of water is authorized only to fill your fresh water tanks. Use of water from the on board tank to wash the boat is also forbidden. Violators are subject to serious fines. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... For the first time in my memory, the town of Scituate recently instituted a mandatory outdoor watering ban that specifically includes washing of boats in the various marinas in town. Use of water is authorized only to fill your fresh water tanks. Use of water from the on board tank to wash the boat is also forbidden. Violators are subject to serious fines. Eisboch Woman. Tank top. Heavy rain. Suds bucket sponge. Mongo like this picture. |
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Eisboch wrote:
For the first time in my memory, the town of Scituate recently instituted a mandatory outdoor watering ban that specifically includes washing of boats in the various marinas in town. Use of water is authorized only to fill your fresh water tanks. Use of water from the on board tank to wash the boat is also forbidden. Violators are subject to serious fines. Eisboch No drive through boat washes in your town? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Mongo like this picture. http://i14.tinypic.com/4qeduo3.jpg ROFL! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
.. . "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Mongo like this picture. http://i14.tinypic.com/4qeduo3.jpg ROFL! Amazing. You are able to find freely available information on the internet. What's next? Learn to use a spoon? |
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"witfal" wrote in message
... On 2007-09-21 07:49:27 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message .. . "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Mongo like this picture. http://i14.tinypic.com/4qeduo3.jpg ROFL! Amazing. You are able to find freely available information on the internet. What's next? Learn to use a spoon? Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. |
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"witfal" wrote in message
... On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. I can't deal with the monotony of gyms. My doctor was an army airborne ranger. He said that by the time he was ready to jump, he was jogging with his body weight on his back. He's 58, and suggested the current routine. Wants to see me up to 75 lbs by December, 100 by January (in the pack), and 30 per in each hand. I'm gonna do it outdoors. 15-20 degree temps will be interesting. 1/2 mile up two serious hills in under 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much until you see these hills. The doctor looks like he's 18. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. |
Thanks Doug.......you continue to drag the scum of the earth here
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote:
On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. |
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witfal wrote:
On 2007-09-21 17:50:29 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: The doctor looks like he's 18. Reminds me of George Burns a few years before he died. On Carson's show he was chastised about his cigar smoking. Johnny asked if his doctors still got on his case about the things. Burns replied, "I can't ask them anymore. They're all dead." I had an uncle like that. Drank a 1.75L bottle of Early Times every two days, smoked two packs of nonfilters (for those who recognize the brand, Picayunes) a day. Every time I'd call him, I'd get, "Remember that doctor who told me drinking and smoking was gonna kill me? He died. That was number six." (or appropriately enumerated in the sequence) -- If you really believe carbon dioxide causes global warming, you should stop exhaling. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. We understand, you tried and can't hit a stationary ball with a stick. |
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"dbu`" wrote in message
... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "witfal" wrote in message ... On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. I can't deal with the monotony of gyms. My doctor was an army airborne ranger. He said that by the time he was ready to jump, he was jogging with his body weight on his back. He's 58, and suggested the current routine. Wants to see me up to 75 lbs by December, 100 by January (in the pack), and 30 per in each hand. I'm gonna do it outdoors. 15-20 degree temps will be interesting. 1/2 mile up two serious hills in under 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much until you see these hills. The doctor looks like he's 18. Would you like a little advice? I'm always interested in new ideas. Do you know someone who has some? |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"witfal" wrote in message ... On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. I can't deal with the monotony of gyms. My doctor was an army airborne ranger. He said that by the time he was ready to jump, he was jogging with his body weight on his back. He's 58, and suggested the current routine. Wants to see me up to 75 lbs by December, 100 by January (in the pack), and 30 per in each hand. I'm gonna do it outdoors. 15-20 degree temps will be interesting. 1/2 mile up two serious hills in under 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much until you see these hills. The doctor looks like he's 18. When I made my first jump it took $145 and 6 hours of class work. It was a static-line jump but, I got a ram-air parachute that was steerable. Sikorsky invented helicopters so that the troops would survive the vertical entry to the battlefield. |
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:50:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "witfal" wrote in message ... On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. I can't deal with the monotony of gyms. My doctor was an army airborne ranger. He said that by the time he was ready to jump, he was jogging with his body weight on his back. He's 58, and suggested the current routine. Wants to see me up to 75 lbs by December, 100 by January (in the pack), and 30 per in each hand. I'm gonna do it outdoors. 15-20 degree temps will be interesting. 1/2 mile up two serious hills in under 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much until you see these hills. The doctor looks like he's 18. Why crosspost? My golf bag approaches that! Give it a try! Are you carrying three boxes of balls? |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:50:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "witfal" wrote in message ... On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. I can't deal with the monotony of gyms. My doctor was an army airborne ranger. He said that by the time he was ready to jump, he was jogging with his body weight on his back. He's 58, and suggested the current routine. Wants to see me up to 75 lbs by December, 100 by January (in the pack), and 30 per in each hand. I'm gonna do it outdoors. 15-20 degree temps will be interesting. 1/2 mile up two serious hills in under 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much until you see these hills. The doctor looks like he's 18. Why crosspost? My golf bag approaches that! Give it a try! |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Oh, I won't crosspost this so I don't embarrass you in your 'real men' group. Which is it, BTW? alt.autos.toyota,rec.gardens,alt.home.repair |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:55:51 -0500, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Oh, I won't crosspost this so I don't embarrass you in your 'real men' group. Which is it, BTW? alt.autos.toyota,rec.gardens,alt.home.repair Change the second 'bag' to 'back'... |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:12:27 -0400, BAR wrote:
John H. wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:50:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "witfal" wrote in message ... On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. I can't deal with the monotony of gyms. My doctor was an army airborne ranger. He said that by the time he was ready to jump, he was jogging with his body weight on his back. He's 58, and suggested the current routine. Wants to see me up to 75 lbs by December, 100 by January (in the pack), and 30 per in each hand. I'm gonna do it outdoors. 15-20 degree temps will be interesting. 1/2 mile up two serious hills in under 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much until you see these hills. The doctor looks like he's 18. Why crosspost? My golf bag approaches that! Give it a try! Are you carrying three boxes of balls? Pretty close! Actually, I've changed my habits. I used to put found balls in my bag, thinking that I was lucky. I've now realized I very seldom use them, and they seem to multiply on their own. Our local shop has a big container for collecting balls to be sent to Iraq. That's where I've emptied many of my found balls. The bag is much lighter! And, I don't carry it. I use a Sun Mountain three wheeled cart. Doug is talking about carrying weight and walking. I can't think of a more enjoyable way to do both than playing a round of golf. |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:43:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:fbr8f318odqjoa4p2ankvvf9pa35u9embj@4ax. com... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back. I was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of weight on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting. Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with you. I saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the exercise the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the same time. I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not strenuous enough to have any real value to me. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. I walk the course at least twice a week, usually three times a week. I play with a couple guys that can't walk the whole way, so on those days I'll ride the cart. But, I'll often grab a handfull of clubs and take off walking. Depending on the course, I'll sometimes walk as they ride. Usually it's no trouble keeping up. |
Thanks Doug.......you continue to drag the scum of the earth here
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:15:21 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:35:14 -0500, John H. penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:04:39 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: Now JimH *and* Harry have 'bozo' bins! The more posters that have them and *use* them, the better off rec.boats will be.... What if two (cross-)posters came to rec.boats for a flame war and you never saw it.......? That would be fine. But until they're filtered, they'll be seen. I like your '*use* them' comment! :-) |
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... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "dbu`" wrote in message ... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "witfal" wrote in message ... On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. I can't deal with the monotony of gyms. My doctor was an army airborne ranger. He said that by the time he was ready to jump, he was jogging with his body weight on his back. He's 58, and suggested the current routine. Wants to see me up to 75 lbs by December, 100 by January (in the pack), and 30 per in each hand. I'm gonna do it outdoors. 15-20 degree temps will be interesting. 1/2 mile up two serious hills in under 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much until you see these hills. The doctor looks like he's 18. Would you like a little advice? I'm always interested in new ideas. Do you know someone who has some? Did your doctor perform a heart evaluation? That weight hauling up a hill and jogging or trying to walk fast at the same time for someone that has not done it in a while is a recipe for cardiac arrest, especially at your age, 40-something. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiac_arrest. Better take it easy at first and build up slow. Your legs aren't what they were when you were twenty either so shin splints http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_splints are also a possibility, very painful. If you want to lift weights, fine, I do a little lifting at home, but I find it boring also, besides it does nothing for your most important muscle, the heart. Walk, walk fast, start out with short walks if you are not up to long ones, but do it every day, do it in the rain, snow, do it when you don't want to. Before you know it you will be walking 4 to 5 miles a day and more. It's important to know how far and for how long you are walking. I have a couple of routes I take and I use a stop watch to measure the time I'm out and for how long I run. A good walk lets you look around your neighborhood, maybe meet some new neighbors, fresh air, when you get back home you'll feel like a million bucks. If you are diciplined like me it will evolve into jogging, but I don't recommend it for someone who has not walked for sometime and besides at your age before doing any kind of strenuous exercuse you should have a physical. Time? Don't have the time? Find the time, set it as a high priority. Get yourself a pair of decent shoes. Forget about hauling weights on your back and all that at least at the beginning. You probably aren't in too bad a shape, but because of your age need to build up gradually, sort of like starting over again. Another alternative is biking. It is fun and another good way to get the heart rate up, but you have to buy a bike and maintain it. If you don't like piddling with bike maintenance then maybe that's not for you. The body goes downhill faster the older you are if you don't keep it up. It's like a car, if you let it go to hell it will. Cardio's fine, per the doctor. This routine's primarily aimed at keeping me tight through the winter. From April through October, my normal pastimes keep me in shape. He once asked what I was doing to stay in shape. I said "Some hiking, mostly gardening". He doubted the gardening, but most people don't do it for 8 hours straight with a 4 minute break for lunch. I don't sit down all weekend. I said "Come on over some weekend. Don't forget to bring an ambulance." :-) I enjoy biking, but I'll only do it at one or two protected paths which are inconvenient for a daily routine. NY State allows people to drive cars even if they are clinically dead or legally blind. Every day, I see at least 5 drivers who remind me of why I want metal all around me. Perhaps one day, we'll be allowed to shoot such drivers. Until then, biking's out. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:43:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back. I was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of weight on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting. Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with you. I saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the exercise the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the same time. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:31:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:43:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:fbr8f318odqjoa4p2ankvvf9pa35u9embj@4ax .com... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back. I was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of weight on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting. Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with you. I saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the exercise the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the same time. I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not strenuous enough to have any real value to me. Change courses. If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and valleys, and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run four minute miles. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:46:07 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:38:41 -0500, John H. penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:15:21 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:35:14 -0500, John H. penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:04:39 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: Now JimH *and* Harry have 'bozo' bins! The more posters that have them and *use* them, the better off rec.boats will be.... What if two (cross-)posters came to rec.boats for a flame war and you never saw it.......? That would be fine. But until they're filtered, they'll be seen. I like your '*use* them' comment! :-) Actually, that is a two-edged sword. 1) How many times have I read a poster brag to the offender "off to the kill file you go, asshole" only to see the poster continue replying to the offender..... 2) Having killfiled posters that just don't seem to get it.... they keep appearing and re-appearing because others respond to them and their detritus continues to show up as quoted text. Maybe will power is more effective than kill files..... That's the edge to which I was referring. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:31:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:43:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:j14af35a5u9e8797jbbcrivhuab8j05nje@4ax. com... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:fbr8f318odqjoa4p2ankvvf9pa35u9embj@4a x.com... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back. I was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of weight on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting. Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with you. I saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the exercise the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the same time. I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not strenuous enough to have any real value to me. Change courses. If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and valleys, and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run four minute miles. He is in Ohio. Lacks steep hills. Highest point in the state is only 1504'. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:31:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:43:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:j14af35a5u9e8797jbbcrivhuab8j05nje@4ax .com... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:fbr8f318odqjoa4p2ankvvf9pa35u9embj@4 ax.com... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back. I was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of weight on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting. Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with you. I saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the exercise the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the same time. I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not strenuous enough to have any real value to me. Change courses. If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and valleys, and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run four minute miles. He is in Ohio. Lacks steep hills. Highest point in the state is only 1504'. OOPS. Confused Doug and Jimh. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:33:18 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:31:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:43:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:j14af35a5u9e8797jbbcrivhuab8j05nje@4ax .com... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:fbr8f318odqjoa4p2ankvvf9pa35u9embj@4 ax.com... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back. I was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of weight on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting. Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with you. I saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the exercise the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the same time. I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not strenuous enough to have any real value to me. Change courses. If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and valleys, and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run four minute miles. He is in Ohio. Lacks steep hills. Highest point in the state is only 1504'. Hell, I've ridden a motorcycle in Ohio. There's some pretty hilly country there! It doesn't take much of a hill to make walking with a golf bag on your back a pretty strenuous activity. He could always jog from one shot to the next! |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:37:16 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:31:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:43:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:u86af3drmq5o47mlsu9q2qv5a424i46evn@4ax. com... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:j14af35a5u9e8797jbbcrivhuab8j05nje@4a x.com... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:fbr8f318odqjoa4p2ankvvf9pa35u9embj@ 4ax.com... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back. I was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of weight on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting. Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with you. I saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the exercise the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the same time. I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not strenuous enough to have any real value to me. Change courses. If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and valleys, and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run four minute miles. He is in Ohio. Lacks steep hills. Highest point in the state is only 1504'. OOPS. Confused Doug and Jimh. Now that you mention it...doesn't Doug live up around Rochester,NY? Hell, there should be some hills up there too. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:35:14 -0500, John H. penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:04:39 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: Now JimH *and* Harry have 'bozo' bins! The more posters that have them and *use* them, the better off rec.boats will be.... What if two (cross-)posters came to rec.boats for a flame war and you never saw it.......? You don't need crossposters to have members of your bozo bin...I've got Smitherscum, Herringbrain, DanDingleBerry, and a half dozen other flamers in there. You really have to stand back when you lift the cover to toss another turdbrain in there. |
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Regardless, what does the fact that our highest point (actually 1,550 feet) above sea level have anything to do with this conversation. We will be high and dry when your wacko State drops into the ocean from earthquakes. We also have direct access to the world's largest fresh water supply. You have direct access to Antarctica? |
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Gene Kearns wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:35:14 -0500, John H. penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:04:39 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: Now JimH *and* Harry have 'bozo' bins! The more posters that have them and *use* them, the better off rec.boats will be.... What if two (cross-)posters came to rec.boats for a flame war and you never saw it.......? You don't need crossposters to have members of your bozo bin...I've got Smitherscum, Herringbrain, DanDingleBerry, and a half dozen other flamers in there. You really have to stand back when you lift the cover to toss another turdbrain in there. Sure you do, Harry. |
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... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "dbu`" wrote in message ... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "dbu`" wrote in message ... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "witfal" wrote in message ... On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. I can't deal with the monotony of gyms. My doctor was an army airborne ranger. He said that by the time he was ready to jump, he was jogging with his body weight on his back. He's 58, and suggested the current routine. Wants to see me up to 75 lbs by December, 100 by January (in the pack), and 30 per in each hand. I'm gonna do it outdoors. 15-20 degree temps will be interesting. 1/2 mile up two serious hills in under 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much until you see these hills. The doctor looks like he's 18. Would you like a little advice? I'm always interested in new ideas. Do you know someone who has some? Did your doctor perform a heart evaluation? That weight hauling up a hill and jogging or trying to walk fast at the same time for someone that has not done it in a while is a recipe for cardiac arrest, especially at your age, 40-something. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiac_arrest. Better take it easy at first and build up slow. Your legs aren't what they were when you were twenty either so shin splints http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_splints are also a possibility, very painful. If you want to lift weights, fine, I do a little lifting at home, but I find it boring also, besides it does nothing for your most important muscle, the heart. Walk, walk fast, start out with short walks if you are not up to long ones, but do it every day, do it in the rain, snow, do it when you don't want to. Before you know it you will be walking 4 to 5 miles a day and more. It's important to know how far and for how long you are walking. I have a couple of routes I take and I use a stop watch to measure the time I'm out and for how long I run. A good walk lets you look around your neighborhood, maybe meet some new neighbors, fresh air, when you get back home you'll feel like a million bucks. If you are diciplined like me it will evolve into jogging, but I don't recommend it for someone who has not walked for sometime and besides at your age before doing any kind of strenuous exercuse you should have a physical. Time? Don't have the time? Find the time, set it as a high priority. Get yourself a pair of decent shoes. Forget about hauling weights on your back and all that at least at the beginning. You probably aren't in too bad a shape, but because of your age need to build up gradually, sort of like starting over again. Another alternative is biking. It is fun and another good way to get the heart rate up, but you have to buy a bike and maintain it. If you don't like piddling with bike maintenance then maybe that's not for you. The body goes downhill faster the older you are if you don't keep it up. It's like a car, if you let it go to hell it will. Cardio's fine, per the doctor. This routine's primarily aimed at keeping me tight through the winter. From April through October, my normal pastimes keep me in shape. He once asked what I was doing to stay in shape. I said "Some hiking, mostly gardening". He doubted the gardening, but most people don't do it for 8 hours straight with a 4 minute break for lunch. I don't sit down all weekend. I said "Come on over some weekend. Don't forget to bring an ambulance." :-) I enjoy biking, but I'll only do it at one or two protected paths which are inconvenient for a daily routine. NY State allows people to drive cars even if they are clinically dead or legally blind. Every day, I see at least 5 drivers who remind me of why I want metal all around me. Perhaps one day, we'll be allowed to shoot such drivers. Until then, biking's out. I used to bike everyday after work, for miles, but I stopped because of the traffic. Plus when biking there is a lot of coasting and you just sit. For my money I like the walk/jog, for only the cost of a new pair of shoes every three or four months. I still have my bikes in case I have to go back to that due to bad knees or whatever. Yeah - the walking's the best deal. And, I can add resistance in any number of ways (backpack, ankle weights, barbells, hills). |
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... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:31:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:43:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:j14af35a5u9e8797jbbcrivhuab8j05nje@4ax. com... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:fbr8f318odqjoa4p2ankvvf9pa35u9embj@4a x.com... On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote: On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom" said: Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man. Assuming that's you, of course. It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad picture angle. But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good. Got back to hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs in a backpack and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34 jeans since 1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that direction. Not. I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher than 18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away. A good thing. 15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough getting lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by cardio. Golf - walking. A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny. You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs and balls, right? Try it, and then come and call names. Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise? My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill. No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not in the shape you are. So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was meaningless, since you don't carry it. No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back. I was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of weight on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting. Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with you. I saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the exercise the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the same time. I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not strenuous enough to have any real value to me. Change courses. If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and valleys, and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run four minute miles. WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a stretch of lawn for a game that bores me? |
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