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A boat to cross the Atlantic
Hello boaters
Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, |
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On Sep 20, 5:29 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: wrote: Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, QE2 is a great place to start. lol, I didn't expect anything but those kind of comments :D But seriously, It's kind of a lifelong dream, that might never happen, but hey I want to start learning. I just bought my first boat so I am starting to dream. |
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wrote in message ps.com... On Sep 20, 5:29 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: wrote: Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, QE2 is a great place to start. lol, I didn't expect anything but those kind of comments :D But seriously, It's kind of a lifelong dream, that might never happen, but hey I want to start learning. I just bought my first boat so I am starting to dream. |
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On Thursday 20 September 2007 23:16, wrote:
Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, If it's going to be sunny all the way then you don't need anything special except a refuelling station once in a while. Al. |
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On Sep 20, 5:43 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:16:40 -0000, wrote: Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. There are plenty of boats that will make the trip. The biggest questions are how much you are willing to spend, and how fast do you want to go. Guessing, but a decent slow boat would cost @100k, a fast one @300k. Fuel not included. --Vic It's more like, what makes the boat worthy of crossing the ocean? What kind of specs (minimum) that I should be looking for? For instance fuel capacity, or the hull, or what kind of engines a boat like that must have and how many of them. |
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On Sep 20, 5:52 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:35:10 -0000, wrote: On Sep 20, 5:29 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: wrote: Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, QE2 is a great place to start. lol, I didn't expect anything but those kind of comments :D But seriously, It's kind of a lifelong dream, that might never happen, but hey I want to start learning. I just bought my first boat so I am starting to dream. If you are seriously interested, here is the "must read" bible: "Voyaging Under Power " by Robert Beebe and James Leishman Available at: www.amazon.com Suitable boats are low powered, very special purpose, and will not appeal to everyone. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=diesel+duck http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nordhavn+trawlers http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...s&btnG=Search- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks Wayne. B for the book suggestion. It is certainly the kind of material I am looking for. I am not fussy about the look of the boat, nor do I care so much how long it would take me to do the trip. I am just looking for a boat that will do the job without me having to continue the trip on sea turtles with human hair for rope. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:51:32 -0000, wrote:
It's more like, what makes the boat worthy of crossing the ocean? http://tinyurl.com/y4y6ss |
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On Sep 20, 6:09 pm, HK wrote:
wrote: Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, Do you have any significant boating experience now? You probably will want a relatively slow trawler type boat, preferably steel-hulled. If I do I wouldn't have been so confused. My boating experience spans only few month, I am sad to say. but I am determined to make it a lifelong hobby. A one that will probably cost me a lot of money needless to say. When you (boaters who replied) say "on the slow side" how slow are we talking about ? Would it take me 2 weeks to complete the trip? A month? Or I will be celebrating my 60th anniversary with my wife on the boat? |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:09:11 -0400, HK wrote:
You probably will want a relatively slow trawler type boat, preferably steel-hulled. Without a low transom. |
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On Sep 20, 6:26 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:51:32 -0000, wrote: It's more like, what makes the boat worthy of crossing the ocean? http://tinyurl.com/y4y6ss That just crossed my threshold for "Minimum Specs" by a tiny bit. :) |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:09:11 -0400, HK wrote: You probably will want a relatively slow trawler type boat, preferably steel-hulled. Without a low transom. What kind of boater would worry about getting his feet wet? The low transom is a safety feature for when those "greenies" come over the bow. |
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wrote in news:1190323000.963588.172930
@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com: Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, http://www.ferretti-yachts.com/ Start here.... Come back and let us know when she's ready. We'll help you learn the ropes by crewing for you to bring her back to your homeport. Very nice. Take me with you and I'll install a full electronics suite on her before we leave Ferretti for sea. I'm an electronics engineer with 45 years of service to ships and boats. If you need references, just ask. Something in the 100-130' range would be nice and have enough room for the hangers-on. Ferretti will make all the arrangements. I'm told they can be very nice if you buy one....(c; |
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On Sep 20, 3:26?pm, wrote:
If I do I wouldn't have been so confused. My boating experience spans only few month, I am sad to say. but I am determined to make it a lifelong hobby. A one that will probably cost me a lot of money needless to say. When you (boaters who replied) say "on the slow side" how slow are we talking about ? Would it take me 2 weeks to complete the trip? A month? Or I will be celebrating my 60th anniversary with my wife on the boat? If your boating experience spans only a few months, I recommend planning about 5 years and 2-3 weeks for the voyage. The first five years will be spent becoming qualified to undertake the adventure. You will want a *displacement* hull, not semi-displacement, for a transoceanic voyage. People are lucky enough to do it in a semi- displacement hull but such boats make better coastal cruisers than blue water passage makers. True displacement hulls are normally single engine affairs. Even so, you will need substantial fuel capacity. You will want heavy displacement, low COG, substantial freeboard, and decks that will drain quickly through large scuppers. (If I were planning a lot of long range offshore adventures, I might lean toward a motor sailer with a simple rig.) |
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On Sep 20, 8:54 pm, Larry wrote:
wrote in news:1190325092.787248.270820 @w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: For instance fuel capacity, or the hull, or what kind of engines a boat like that must have and how many of them. A guy I sail with was honored to ride a big motoryacht from the Western end of the Panama Canal to the Monaco Boat Show, where the yacht was one of the largest boats on display at 160'. It belongs to his boss. An example of fuel usage on a fast yacht: Panama Canal to Ft Lauderdale - 7200 US gallons Ft Lauderdale to Bermuda - a little over 6000 gallons Bermuda to Azores was different because they weren't going to make it at planing speed with only 10,000 gallons of diesel aboard. So, about 60% on the leg they had to slow the boat to a crawl to make it...Mark it 10,000 gallons....give or take a few. Azores to Gibraltar, another 6500 gallons. Gibraltar to Monaco he didn't know because he left the boat before the FUEL BARGE came along side. VISA, Mastercard, Discover, Barclays, Carte Blanche, etc., etc., accepted by fuel barge operators worldwide.....(c; It costs like hell to run a big yacht at 30 knots..... Larry -- Search youtube for "Depleted Uranium" The ultimate dirty bomb...... I believe you. I just saw a yacht that if you were to fill it up at the gas station it would cost you quarter million dollars to top it up. SICK !! |
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On Sep 20, 8:56 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 20, 3:26?pm, wrote: If I do I wouldn't have been so confused. My boating experience spans only few month, I am sad to say. but I am determined to make it a lifelong hobby. A one that will probably cost me a lot of money needless to say. When you (boaters who replied) say "on the slow side" how slow are we talking about ? Would it take me 2 weeks to complete the trip? A month? Or I will be celebrating my 60th anniversary with my wife on the boat? If your boating experience spans only a few months, I recommend planning about 5 years and 2-3 weeks for the voyage. The first five years will be spent becoming qualified to undertake the adventure. You will want a *displacement* hull, not semi-displacement, for a transoceanic voyage. People are lucky enough to do it in a semi- displacement hull but such boats make better coastal cruisers than blue water passage makers. True displacement hulls are normally single engine affairs. Even so, you will need substantial fuel capacity. You will want heavy displacement, low COG, substantial freeboard, and decks that will drain quickly through large scuppers. (If I were planning a lot of long range offshore adventures, I might lean toward a motor sailer with a simple rig.) Thanks for the advice, I will read more about that. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, For power, one with an extremely large fuel tank. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:51:32 -0000, wrote: It's more like, what makes the boat worthy of crossing the ocean? http://tinyurl.com/y4y6ss Looks like something from Waterworld! |
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On Thursday 20 September 2007 23:43, Vic Smith wrote:
Guessing, but a decent slow boat would cost @100k, a fast one @300k. Fuel not included. I doubt very much that you could get a MV with a transatlantic range plus the equipment (incl safety), the engines, the structural strength, stability and electronics anywhere near these price ranges. If would be important to know the budget of the OP. If he has real budget limitations he would be much better off with a SY if his goal is to do just a transatlantic. Al |
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wrote in message oups.com... Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, http://www.kadeykrogen.com/articles/...cbyTrawler.htm Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, http://www.kadeykrogen.com/articles/...cbyTrawler.htm Eisboch Beautiful boats, but s-l-o-w. Sixteen days to Europe with all the breaks. That's a long time to be at sea, all alone in a small boat. It's not like running up or down the ICW. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, http://www.kadeykrogen.com/articles/...cbyTrawler.htm Eisboch Beautiful boats, but s-l-o-w. Sixteen days to Europe with all the breaks. That's a long time to be at sea, all alone in a small boat. It's not like running up or down the ICW. My first transatlantic voyage was on a destroyer escort (315') making 7 knots while towing a passive sonar array to track Soviet subs. Not much to see, but the Navy has ways to keep you busy. I'd never try a transatlantic trip it in a small boat, but a trawler's slow speed is offset by it's range. I roughly calculated that with two qualified captains, running non-stop, our GB could make it from Cape Cod to St. Augustine, FL in about a week, and still have about 25 percent of it's fuel capacity remaining. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Hello boaters Just wondering, what should I look for in a power boat that can cross the Atlantic? In regards to length, engines, speed, make, and so on. Thanks, http://www.kadeykrogen.com/articles/...cbyTrawler.htm Eisboch Beautiful boats, but s-l-o-w. Sixteen days to Europe with all the breaks. That's a long time to be at sea, all alone in a small boat. It's not like running up or down the ICW. My first transatlantic voyage was on a destroyer escort (315') making 7 knots while towing a passive sonar array to track Soviet subs. Not much to see, but the Navy has ways to keep you busy. I'd never try a transatlantic trip it in a small boat, but a trawler's slow speed is offset by it's range. I roughly calculated that with two qualified captains, running non-stop, our GB could make it from Cape Cod to St. Augustine, FL in about a week, and still have about 25 percent of it's fuel capacity remaining. Eisboch Surely not the USS Coates? Being on a 300' naval vessel crossing the Atlantic is a tad different than being on a 50' plastic trawler crossing the Atlantic. I've run on the ICW at night in Georgia and in Florida. Without a lot of local knowledge, it can be very, very dangerous. The visual aids are virtually non-existent, the waterway snakes this way and that, in places there is virtually no transition from channel depths to shoal, there are small boaters scattered about and sometimes their boats don't show up on radar. St. Augustine is one of my favorite spots. If you are heading south, just as you pass the seaplane basin and make the turn, you can wave at my house on your port side. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Surely not the USS Coates? A little bit newer than that, but not by much. USS Van Voorhis (DE-1028) and then later on USS Lester, (DE-1022). Both were built in the mid 50's and were basically low cost antisubmarine warfare platforms. Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. I've run on the ICW at night in Georgia and in Florida. Without a lot of local knowledge, it can be very, very dangerous. The visual aids are virtually non-existent, the waterway snakes this way and that, in places there is virtually no transition from channel depths to shoal, there are small boaters scattered about and sometimes their boats don't show up on radar. Based on the recommendations of seasoned ICW travelers, I bypassed Georgia completely and ran offshore on the trip south on the Navigator. We alternated "inside" and "outside" in Florida, visiting Fernandian Beach, St. Augustine, Titusville, and then offshore to Jupiter. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Surely not the USS Coates? A little bit newer than that, but not by much. USS Van Voorhis (DE-1028) and then later on USS Lester, (DE-1022). Both were built in the mid 50's and were basically low cost antisubmarine warfare platforms. Eisboch I wonder if the Coates is still on station in the harbor. I haven't been back to New Haven in many, many years. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. I've run on the ICW at night in Georgia and in Florida. Without a lot of local knowledge, it can be very, very dangerous. The visual aids are virtually non-existent, the waterway snakes this way and that, in places there is virtually no transition from channel depths to shoal, there are small boaters scattered about and sometimes their boats don't show up on radar. Based on the recommendations of seasoned ICW travelers, I bypassed Georgia completely and ran offshore on the trip south on the Navigator. We alternated "inside" and "outside" in Florida, visiting Fernandian Beach, St. Augustine, Titusville, and then offshore to Jupiter. Eisboch Well, if you are ever in the area at the beginning of May, check out the Fernindina Shrimp (and art) Festival. Great art, interesting shows, and super food. http://www.shrimpfestival.com/ |
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:19:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
I roughly calculated that with two qualified captains, running non-stop, our GB could make it from Cape Cod to St. Augustine, FL in about a week, and still have about 25 percent of it's fuel capacity remaining. That's about right but you might get beaten up a bit if you go offshore without stabilizers. We have made two runs north from the Port St Lucie area to Long Island Sound in 10 days with only a few all night runs. We could make that trip in about 5 days running continuously. Different horses for different courses. I'd be happy to challenge Harry's Parker to a race to Bermuda. :-) |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:19:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I roughly calculated that with two qualified captains, running non-stop, our GB could make it from Cape Cod to St. Augustine, FL in about a week, and still have about 25 percent of it's fuel capacity remaining. That's about right but you might get beaten up a bit if you go offshore without stabilizers. We have made two runs north from the Port St Lucie area to Long Island Sound in 10 days with only a few all night runs. We could make that trip in about 5 days running continuously. Different horses for different courses. I'd be happy to challenge Harry's Parker to a race to Bermuda. :-) I can fly to Bermuda in about an hour and a half, if memory serves. I can't think of a single reason why I'd want to get there in a slow, floating RV like your boat that wallows its way there. Bermuda is about 650 miles off the North Carolina coast. What's that for you in the open ocean, three to four days? In three to four days, I could have been on the beach, gone fishing and snorkeling, eaten in any number of good restaurants, and visited all the bars and clubs that James Bond never really hit. I find small boat travel tedious and boring. Sorry. |
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HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:19:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I roughly calculated that with two qualified captains, running non-stop, our GB could make it from Cape Cod to St. Augustine, FL in about a week, and still have about 25 percent of it's fuel capacity remaining. That's about right but you might get beaten up a bit if you go offshore without stabilizers. We have made two runs north from the Port St Lucie area to Long Island Sound in 10 days with only a few all night runs. We could make that trip in about 5 days running continuously. Different horses for different courses. I'd be happy to challenge Harry's Parker to a race to Bermuda. :-) I can fly to Bermuda in about an hour and a half, if memory serves. I can't think of a single reason why I'd want to get there in a slow, floating RV like your boat that wallows its way there. Bermuda is about 650 miles off the North Carolina coast. What's that for you in the open ocean, three to four days? In three to four days, I could have been on the beach, gone fishing and snorkeling, eaten in any number of good restaurants, and visited all the bars and clubs that James Bond never really hit. I find small boat travel tedious and boring. Sorry. Wayne, When Harry says he likes boating, he means he likes to go out fishing for 30 or 45 min. and then return to rec.boats and talk about it for the next month. |
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:55:51 -0400, HK wrote:
I find small boat travel tedious and boring. Sorry. Nothing to be sorry about, an LT Parker is clearly the wrong boat for the trip, and an ocean going trawler is clearly the wrong boat for *you*. Flying is a good choice. |
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:56:45 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: When Harry says he likes boating, he means he likes to go out fishing for 30 or 45 min. and then return to rec.boats and talk about it for the next month. Of course what he really likes most of all is sparring with the other residents of rec.boats, or reading about others who would like to spar with him. Perhaps we should indulge him a little less but I have come to enjoy poking him with a sharp stick once in awhile, just to let the air out. Moderation in all things however... :-) |
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