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Wayne.B wrote:
http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...1DSC_2211.html or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. |
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On Sep 9, 8:20 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Nice photos, thanks. Can you imagine having enough confidence in your boat and skills to take on stuff like that? It's a thrill to see the whole sequence: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%20MLB%20Action/ I can't believe those guys are facing that with 5 hands on the bridge. What a ride! |
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On Sep 9, 7:29 am, BAR wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. I realize you can do a lot with telephoto lenses, but when that ship is almost virtical with the bow in the air, and a huge roller coming in behind it, Do you want to be out there? Not me! |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...1DSC_2211.html or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u I wonder if any of the online dictionaries links to those pictures for a definition of the word "balls". |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...1DSC_2211.html or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Nice photos, thanks. Can you imagine having enough confidence in your boat and skills to take on stuff like that? |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:29:07 -0400, BAR wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...1DSC_2211.html or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Hell, surfers go places I wouldn't consider putting a boat in. |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 12:37:16 -0000, Tim wrote:
On Sep 9, 7:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. I realize you can do a lot with telephoto lenses, but when that ship is almost virtical with the bow in the air, and a huge roller coming in behind it, Do you want to be out there? Not me! Not with my camera! |
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On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) |
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wrote in message
ups.com... On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Just sitting in the room where they begin teaching how to do it - that would be interesting. I wonder how many synonyms they find for "adrenalin". |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...1DSC_2211.html or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u West coast, I assume. Typical stuff the Chuck probably encounters quite often. But I could be wrong about that. --Vic |
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On Sep 9, 11:13 am, wrote:
On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Wow, now that I am awake I recant my above statement about the guys surfing behind a breakwater. |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 11:47:16 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: West coast, I assume. Typical stuff the Chuck probably encounters quite often. But I could be wrong about that. Not really, unless he ventures outside of Puget Sound and the islands. I've seen some big surf on the east coast but nothing quite like that. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Just sitting in the room where they begin teaching how to do it - that would be interesting. I wonder how many synonyms they find for "adrenalin". Throwing you body at the earth at 120 MPH with only a sewing machine and some nylon between life and death will get your adrenalin coursing through your veins. |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:06:54 -0400, BAR wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Just sitting in the room where they begin teaching how to do it - that would be interesting. I wonder how many synonyms they find for "adrenalin". Throwing you body at the earth at 120 MPH with only a sewing machine and some nylon between life and death will get your adrenalin coursing through your veins. You had to make your parachute on the way down after you jumped? Damn - that must have been one tough jump school. |
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Tom Francis wrote:
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:06:54 -0400, BAR wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Just sitting in the room where they begin teaching how to do it - that would be interesting. I wonder how many synonyms they find for "adrenalin". Throwing you body at the earth at 120 MPH with only a sewing machine and some nylon between life and death will get your adrenalin coursing through your veins. You had to make your parachute on the way down after you jumped? Damn - that must have been one tough jump school. I was a prick of an AFF Jumpmaster. It was my signature signing off the students jumps. |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:57:10 -0400, BAR wrote:
Tom Francis wrote: On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:06:54 -0400, BAR wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Just sitting in the room where they begin teaching how to do it - that would be interesting. I wonder how many synonyms they find for "adrenalin". Throwing you body at the earth at 120 MPH with only a sewing machine and some nylon between life and death will get your adrenalin coursing through your veins. You had to make your parachute on the way down after you jumped? Damn - that must have been one tough jump school. I was a prick of an AFF Jumpmaster. It was my signature signing off the students jumps. Yeah - but make your own parachute on the way down?!?!? Dude... :) |
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Tom Francis wrote:
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:57:10 -0400, BAR wrote: Tom Francis wrote: On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:06:54 -0400, BAR wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Just sitting in the room where they begin teaching how to do it - that would be interesting. I wonder how many synonyms they find for "adrenalin". Throwing you body at the earth at 120 MPH with only a sewing machine and some nylon between life and death will get your adrenalin coursing through your veins. You had to make your parachute on the way down after you jumped? Damn - that must have been one tough jump school. I was a prick of an AFF Jumpmaster. It was my signature signing off the students jumps. Yeah - but make your own parachute on the way down?!?!? Dude... :) When you think about a parachute, harness and container and how it is made it is really amazing. No or minimal mechanical fasteners other than on the leg straps and the chest strap, other than that everything is a form of lock stitching on a sewing machine. 400' and you finally deploy the pilot chute with hope that everything will work properly before you become a crimson crater. |
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If you have to make it on the way down, you don't have to worry about
packing it properly before the jump. :-) I got it.... --Mike "Tom Francis" wrote in message ... On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:57:10 -0400, BAR wrote: Tom Francis wrote: On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:06:54 -0400, BAR wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Just sitting in the room where they begin teaching how to do it - that would be interesting. I wonder how many synonyms they find for "adrenalin". Throwing you body at the earth at 120 MPH with only a sewing machine and some nylon between life and death will get your adrenalin coursing through your veins. You had to make your parachute on the way down after you jumped? Damn - that must have been one tough jump school. I was a prick of an AFF Jumpmaster. It was my signature signing off the students jumps. Yeah - but make your own parachute on the way down?!?!? Dude... :) |
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On Sep 9, 9:23 pm, BAR wrote:
Tom Francis wrote: On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:57:10 -0400, BAR wrote: Tom Francis wrote: On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:06:54 -0400, BAR wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message legroups.com... On Sep 9, 8:29 am, BAR wrote: Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u Can't be that bad if surfers are in the water. Looks like the surfers are inside some kind of breakwater. That is a pretty long lens. Great shots though. For the record, I think I would take that ride once anyway. I think :) Just sitting in the room where they begin teaching how to do it - that would be interesting. I wonder how many synonyms they find for "adrenalin". Throwing you body at the earth at 120 MPH with only a sewing machine and some nylon between life and death will get your adrenalin coursing through your veins. You had to make your parachute on the way down after you jumped? Damn - that must have been one tough jump school. I was a prick of an AFF Jumpmaster. It was my signature signing off the students jumps. Yeah - but make your own parachute on the way down?!?!? Dude... :) When you think about a parachute, harness and container and how it is made it is really amazing. No or minimal mechanical fasteners other than on the leg straps and the chest strap, other than that everything is a form of lock stitching on a sewing machine. 400' and you finally deploy the pilot chute with hope that everything will work properly before you become a crimson crater.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "crimson crater. " just thinking about that phrase, makes certian orifaces pucker just at the thought |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:22:16 GMT, "Mike" wrote:
If you have to make it on the way down, you don't have to worry about packing it properly before the jump. :-) I got it... It does make a certian bizzare sense. :) |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:36:13 -0000, Tim wrote:
"crimson crater. " just thinking about that phrase, makes certian orifaces pucker just at the thought Of a "slice and dice" - like out-of-control landing on top of a disc plow. (Actually saw that happen once). |
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On Sep 9, 9:47?am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u West coast, I assume. Typical stuff the Chuck probably encounters quite often. But I could be wrong about that. --Vic If I had to encounter stuff like that "quite often", I'd take up a different pastime. Looks like USCG surfman training- which is done at a few select locations where- on a few of the worst days of the year- surf over river entrance bars etc will create conditions as seen in these photos. Everybody is strapped in, and the boats are ballasted so they can roll over and return to a full upright position. IIRC, to graduate surfman training school. Being semi claustrophobic- I can't imagine being strapped into a seat, upside down in the water, and holding my breath for the 15 seconds or so I understand it can take for the boat to right itself. That would be one looooooong 15 seconds...... Check photo 42. Those 3 footers in the foreground are indicative of conditions that would be considered pretty uncomfortable around here, and would be enough to keep most of pleasure boaters off the water. We have waves not much worse than that when the radio is broadcasting "small craft warnings". |
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On Sep 9, 5:12?am, Wayne.B wrote:
http://morrobayphotos.com/uscg/USCG%...epages/_1DSC_2... or http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. http://www.yachtworld.com/capehorn/index.html For more details, select "About the Photo Above" from the bottom of the options on the LH margin of the page. (My friend Mike Zarkos owns this brokerage- but this is purely an invitation to view a photo and you can do so without wading through a lot of boats for sale). |
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On Sep 10, 9:35?am, Chuck Gould
Check photo 42. Those 3 footers in the foreground are indicative of conditions that would be considered pretty uncomfortable around here, and would be enough to keep most of pleasure boaters off the water. We have waves not much worse than that when the radio is broadcasting "small craft warnings". Make that 41, not 42. The foreground on 42 is pretty tame.... |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:43:36 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote:
This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. http://www.yachtworld.com/capehorn/index.html For more details, select "About the Photo Above" from the bottom of the options on the LH margin of the page. (My friend Mike Zarkos owns this brokerage- but this is purely an invitation to view a photo and you can do so without wading through a lot of boats for sale). A little larger view of the same shot: http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm I wonder what those people in the smaller boat were thinking. |
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On Sep 10, 10:25?am, thunder wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:43:36 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. http://www.yachtworld.com/capehorn/index.html For more details, select "About the Photo Above" from the bottom of the options on the LH margin of the page. (My friend Mike Zarkos owns this brokerage- but this is purely an invitation to view a photo and you can do so without wading through a lot of boats for sale). A little larger view of the same shot: http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm I wonder what those people in the smaller boat were thinking. "How fast can we make that last 40 yards to get behind the breakwater?!" or maybe, "Darn! Those were my favorite trousers!" |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 10, 10:25?am, thunder wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:43:36 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. http://www.yachtworld.com/capehorn/index.html For more details, select "About the Photo Above" from the bottom of the options on the LH margin of the page. (My friend Mike Zarkos owns this brokerage- but this is purely an invitation to view a photo and you can do so without wading through a lot of boats for sale). A little larger view of the same shot: http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm I wonder what those people in the smaller boat were thinking. "How fast can we make that last 40 yards to get behind the breakwater?!" or maybe, "Darn! Those were my favorite trousers!" "Chuck said those waves weren't really as big as they seem...they're only two to three footers..." :} |
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On Sep 10, 11:12?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On Sep 10, 10:25?am, thunder wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:43:36 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. http://www.yachtworld.com/capehorn/index.html For more details, select "About the Photo Above" from the bottom of the options on the LH margin of the page. (My friend Mike Zarkos owns this brokerage- but this is purely an invitation to view a photo and you can do so without wading through a lot of boats for sale). A little larger view of the same shot: http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm I wonder what those people in the smaller boat were thinking. "How fast can we make that last 40 yards to get behind the breakwater?!" or maybe, "Darn! Those were my favorite trousers!" "Chuck said those waves weren't really as big as they seem...they're only two to three footers..." :}- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's a bit funny- but I think the photo of the Ditmar Donaldson punching through that surf *does* serve as a good reference for wave height. The USCG review of the incident reportedly refered to that as a "20 foot" wave. A legitimate 8-footer would still be 40% as large- so I do try to bear that in mind when I hear boaters describing rather extreme wave heights. Most people routinely overstate wave height- at least IMO formed by years of observation. No need, really; 4-5 footers can make for some really challenging conditions when expressed as short interval chop. |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 10, 11:12?am, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Sep 10, 10:25?am, thunder wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:43:36 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. http://www.yachtworld.com/capehorn/index.html For more details, select "About the Photo Above" from the bottom of the options on the LH margin of the page. (My friend Mike Zarkos owns this brokerage- but this is purely an invitation to view a photo and you can do so without wading through a lot of boats for sale). A little larger view of the same shot: http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm I wonder what those people in the smaller boat were thinking. "How fast can we make that last 40 yards to get behind the breakwater?!" or maybe, "Darn! Those were my favorite trousers!" "Chuck said those waves weren't really as big as they seem...they're only two to three footers..." :}- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's a bit funny- but I think the photo of the Ditmar Donaldson punching through that surf *does* serve as a good reference for wave height. The USCG review of the incident reportedly refered to that as a "20 foot" wave. A legitimate 8-footer would still be 40% as large- so I do try to bear that in mind when I hear boaters describing rather extreme wave heights. Most people routinely overstate wave height- at least IMO formed by years of observation. No need, really; 4-5 footers can make for some really challenging conditions when expressed as short interval chop. Since I don't have to boat, if I see 3' waves on the bay, I just don't go out, or I trailer over to the Pax River, which is an interesting waterway that stays reasonably calm. |
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On Sep 10, 2:32?pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On Sep 10, 11:12?am, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Sep 10, 10:25?am, thunder wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:43:36 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. http://www.yachtworld.com/capehorn/index.html For more details, select "About the Photo Above" from the bottom of the options on the LH margin of the page. (My friend Mike Zarkos owns this brokerage- but this is purely an invitation to view a photo and you can do so without wading through a lot of boats for sale). A little larger view of the same shot: http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm I wonder what those people in the smaller boat were thinking. "How fast can we make that last 40 yards to get behind the breakwater?!" or maybe, "Darn! Those were my favorite trousers!" "Chuck said those waves weren't really as big as they seem...they're only two to three footers..." :}- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's a bit funny- but I think the photo of the Ditmar Donaldson punching through that surf *does* serve as a good reference for wave height. The USCG review of the incident reportedly refered to that as a "20 foot" wave. A legitimate 8-footer would still be 40% as large- so I do try to bear that in mind when I hear boaters describing rather extreme wave heights. Most people routinely overstate wave height- at least IMO formed by years of observation. No need, really; 4-5 footers can make for some really challenging conditions when expressed as short interval chop. Since I don't have to boat, if I see 3' waves on the bay, I just don't go out, or I trailer over to the Pax River, which is an interesting waterway that stays reasonably calm.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I hear that. When things get much worse than the foreground on photo I noted upthread I begin wondering what I'm doing slogging around in it and make some specific plans to find shelter. The one time recently when I broke my own rule and set out for a long crossing when things were about like the photo, (or so).......conditions got worse and then all sorts of fun began. Spent 3 very uncomfortable hours......(posted about that last month, "Greetings from Ganges"). |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 10, 2:32?pm, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Sep 10, 11:12?am, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Sep 10, 10:25?am, thunder wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:43:36 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. http://www.yachtworld.com/capehorn/index.html For more details, select "About the Photo Above" from the bottom of the options on the LH margin of the page. (My friend Mike Zarkos owns this brokerage- but this is purely an invitation to view a photo and you can do so without wading through a lot of boats for sale). A little larger view of the same shot: http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm I wonder what those people in the smaller boat were thinking. "How fast can we make that last 40 yards to get behind the breakwater?!" or maybe, "Darn! Those were my favorite trousers!" "Chuck said those waves weren't really as big as they seem...they're only two to three footers..." :}- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's a bit funny- but I think the photo of the Ditmar Donaldson punching through that surf *does* serve as a good reference for wave height. The USCG review of the incident reportedly refered to that as a "20 foot" wave. A legitimate 8-footer would still be 40% as large- so I do try to bear that in mind when I hear boaters describing rather extreme wave heights. Most people routinely overstate wave height- at least IMO formed by years of observation. No need, really; 4-5 footers can make for some really challenging conditions when expressed as short interval chop. Since I don't have to boat, if I see 3' waves on the bay, I just don't go out, or I trailer over to the Pax River, which is an interesting waterway that stays reasonably calm.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I hear that. When things get much worse than the foreground on photo I noted upthread I begin wondering what I'm doing slogging around in it and make some specific plans to find shelter. The one time recently when I broke my own rule and set out for a long crossing when things were about like the photo, (or so).......conditions got worse and then all sorts of fun began. Spent 3 very uncomfortable hours......(posted about that last month, "Greetings from Ganges"). My wife likes boating, likes fishing, and even will pee in a cup, if she has to (though we now have "facilities" on son of Yo Ho), but she doesn't like getting bounced around in the boat. So if it gets rough, I slow way down, or we trailer over to calmer waters, or we don't go out. Yesterday was a beautiful day on the Bay, really nice. We fished for a while, cruised around, went for a swim at a nice desolate beach, then went up the Pax River to Vera's White Sands Beach Club, a kind of campy marina-restaurant-bar up a creek off the Pax. http://verasbeachclub.com/ http://verasbeachclub.com/grandopening/index.html Great frozen margaritas! If you get a chance, take a look at some of the photos...the palm trees are for real, as is the banana tree. |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:43:36 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: This link will take you to a photo of George C. Scotts's 80-foot Ditmar Donaldson "trying this at home" back in 1979. Same location. Wave height was estimated at 20 feet. I've seen that before but it never fails to give me a chill. My understanding is that the boat was severely damaged. That's certainly easy to believe. |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:28:39 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: That's a bit funny- but I think the photo of the Ditmar Donaldson punching through that surf *does* serve as a good reference for wave height. The USCG review of the incident reportedly refered to that as a "20 foot" wave. A legitimate 8-footer would still be 40% as large- so I do try to bear that in mind when I hear boaters describing rather extreme wave heights. Most people routinely overstate wave height- at least IMO formed by years of observation. No need, really; 4-5 footers can make for some really challenging conditions when expressed as short interval chop. All true but that's not just any old 20 footer of course. The fact that it is steep and breaking is what causes all the excitement. |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:32:53 -0400, HK wrote:
Since I don't have to boat, if I see 3' waves on the bay, I just don't go out, or I trailer over to the Pax River, which is an interesting waterway that stays reasonably calm. That is certainly an appropriate strategy for a 20 footer, or even a good bit larger. |
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HK wrote:
My wife likes boating, likes fishing, and even will pee in a cup, if she has to (though we now have "facilities" on son of Yo Ho), but she doesn't like getting bounced around in the boat. So if it gets rough, I slow way down, or we trailer over to calmer waters, or we don't go out. Why not just go out in the Lobster Boat? |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: My wife likes boating, likes fishing, and even will pee in a cup, if she has to (though we now have "facilities" on son of Yo Ho), but she doesn't like getting bounced around in the boat. So if it gets rough, I slow way down, or we trailer over to calmer waters, or we don't go out. Why not just go out in the Lobster Boat? Surely the 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat has a real head, burled dark walnut, gold fixtures, heated towels and a real China bowel with a bidet. Anything less than that and you are on a, on a 21' Parker Center Console peeing in a bucket. |
Don't Try This at Home - Spectacular USCG Photos
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:01:14 -0400, BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: My wife likes boating, likes fishing, and even will pee in a cup, if she has to (though we now have "facilities" on son of Yo Ho), but she doesn't like getting bounced around in the boat. So if it gets rough, I slow way down, or we trailer over to calmer waters, or we don't go out. Why not just go out in the Lobster Boat? Surely the 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat has a real head, burled dark walnut, gold fixtures, heated towels and a real China bowel with a bidet. Anything less than that and you are on a, on a 21' Parker Center Console peeing in a bucket. A bidet? |
Don't Try This at Home - Spectacular USCG Photos
On Sep 10, 3:22?pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:28:39 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: That's a bit funny- but I think the photo of the Ditmar Donaldson punching through that surf *does* serve as a good reference for wave height. The USCG review of the incident reportedly refered to that as a "20 foot" wave. A legitimate 8-footer would still be 40% as large- so I do try to bear that in mind when I hear boaters describing rather extreme wave heights. Most people routinely overstate wave height- at least IMO formed by years of observation. No need, really; 4-5 footers can make for some really challenging conditions when expressed as short interval chop. All true but that's not just any old 20 footer of course. The fact that it is steep and breaking is what causes all the excitement. Precisely. Spread that same 20-foot rise out far enough and you have a nice, gentle swell. Very few of the "white knuckle" tales involve gentle swells. A 4-footer breaking on the beam will put my side decks awash, and a breaking 6-foot head sea will put green water on the foredeck. Nope, nope, nope- don't need to do that when it can be avoided, and just short of all of the time it can be when coastal or inland cruising. A lot of the coastal harbors in WA, OR, and CA have river bars. the combination of rapid shoaling, an onshore wind, and conflicting tides and river currents can create some very nasty conditions. In many locations, the USCG literally closes the bar to navigation when conditions get ugly enough. One of the reasons for "surfman" training is to prep the Coast Guard personnel to perfrom rescues of folks who don't heed the "closed bar" warnings. |
Don't Try This at Home - Spectacular USCG Photos
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:21:47 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: A lot of the coastal harbors in WA, OR, and CA have river bars. the combination of rapid shoaling, an onshore wind, and conflicting tides and river currents can create some very nasty conditions. In many locations, the USCG literally closes the bar to navigation when conditions get ugly enough. One of the reasons for "surfman" training is to prep the Coast Guard personnel to perfrom rescues of folks who don't heed the "closed bar" warnings. Didn't you post a picture a couple of years ago of a large yacht crossing a bar - some famous actor's yacht? |
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