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Frogwatch September 7th 07 03:26 AM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
On Sep 6, 10:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:59:39 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Here's what I was referring to:


http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm


I knew about those - last resort kind of thing because they are ugly.


Thanks though. Appreciate it.


Functionality is not always beautiful. 80


10-4.


Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck. This summer on our trip from Fl to WY, my daughters BF had
one and it never helped do anything but cause arguments. Without it,
everyone relied on my INFALLIBLE sense of direction. With it, they
tried to argue with me. You have to realize that "infallible" means
"Never admit you are lost, just say you want to see something
interesting" and keep enough sense of direction to eventually get
where you are going.


John H. September 7th 07 03:37 AM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:52:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.


I got the wife the Garmin 330, which cost a bit more and does much the
same. She loves it.

3D is a female thing. I like the 2D also, but since it's her toy...

Tim September 7th 07 04:03 AM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
On Sep 6, 8:43 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:26:57 -0000, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 8:20 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:55:58 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 7:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.


Big brother is watching you........


If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)


I'd rather watch "1984" instead....


Which one - the German one done in '84 or the Merry Can one in '56?


1984 in '84
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/

I didn't know there was a '56 I'll have to see if I can find that
one.



Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 07 10:52 AM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:07 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck.


That's because you are a Luddite. :)

Reginald P. Smithers III September 7th 07 11:03 AM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:07 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck.


That's because you are a Luddite. :)


If God wanted you to have GPS, you would have been born with GPS. I
really think it would be one of those toys that neither of us would use.

John H. September 7th 07 01:07 PM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Check out R-A-M for a dashboard mount. That's what I use for my Magellan.

It's a rubber covered, flexible, rather heavy contraption that can be
adjusted to conform to any dashboard contour.



Here's what I was referring to:

http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm


Cool. Thanks for the tip. My wife's Garmin has started coming loose from
the windshield and I may have to look into something like that. Either that
or clean the windshield.

John H. September 7th 07 01:08 PM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:07 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 6, 10:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:59:39 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Here's what I was referring to:


http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm


I knew about those - last resort kind of thing because they are ugly.


Thanks though. Appreciate it.


Functionality is not always beautiful. 80


10-4.


Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck. This summer on our trip from Fl to WY, my daughters BF had
one and it never helped do anything but cause arguments. Without it,
everyone relied on my INFALLIBLE sense of direction. With it, they
tried to argue with me. You have to realize that "infallible" means
"Never admit you are lost, just say you want to see something
interesting" and keep enough sense of direction to eventually get
where you are going.


You're not female. To them, maps don't count, unless you're Mrs Eisboch,
who, I assume, can read a chart.

Vic Smith September 7th 07 03:19 PM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:07 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck. This summer on our trip from Fl to WY, my daughters BF had
one and it never helped do anything but cause arguments. Without it,
everyone relied on my INFALLIBLE sense of direction. With it, they
tried to argue with me. You have to realize that "infallible" means
"Never admit you are lost, just say you want to see something
interesting" and keep enough sense of direction to eventually get
where you are going.


Yeah, but the pizza gets cold and you start piling up customer
complaints.

--Vic

John H. September 7th 07 10:43 PM

I finally bit the bullet...
 
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:18:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.



Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although I still
drive over 2,000 miles every month. Although not perfect, Mapquest has not
let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell phone call solves the
problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we will also use AAA
TripTik services.

So......what made you finally decide to buy one?


If you're male, you should be able to read a map. However, they are handy
for finding a street address in a town which doesn't have an insert on your
average state map.

D.Duck September 8th 07 12:07 AM

I finally bit the bullet...
 

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.



Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although I still
drive over 2,000 miles every month. Although not perfect, Mapquest has
not let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell phone call
solves the problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we will also use AAA
TripTik services.

So......what made you finally decide to buy one?


They are far from perfect. They almost never take you the way you'd like to
go, especially on a long trip. They are not mind readers and cannot
anticipate little "short cuts" that the driver is familiar with.

For example, I know the back roads route to Orlando from our home. When I
program it into the GPS for someone out of town, the resultant route is far
from optimum. Your can go in an customize the route, but that turns into a
real PIA,

Where I find them quite useful is in a strange city and your looking for a
particular "point of interest" (POI). such as a Sears store or restaurant.




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