I finally bit the bullet...
 

I finally bit the bullet...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


snakebite?

I finally bit the bullet...
 

I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Sep 6, 7:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.


Big brother is watching you........

I finally bit the bullet...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.


How big is the screen and how far away can you see the letters on it,
assuming decent vision? My wife wants one of those devices.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:10:54 -0400, HK wrote:

How big is the screen and how far away can you see the letters on it,
assuming decent vision? My wife wants one of those devices.

It' sroughly the size of a man's wallet = 320X240 TFT display screen,
64,000 color (32 bit I think) system. Fully visible at three feet.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:55:58 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Sep 6, 7:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.

Big brother is watching you........

If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)

I finally bit the bullet...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:55:58 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Sep 6, 7:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.
Big brother is watching you........

If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)


Not through a closed men's room door.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Sep 6, 8:20 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:55:58 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 7:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.

Big brother is watching you........

If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)


Er, should I???

I'd rather watch "1984" instead....

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Sep 6, 6:20?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)

Probably not. Do you have a good looking sister?

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:31:38 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Sep 6, 6:20?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)

Probably not. Do you have a good looking sister?

Um...don't know how to answer this.

Ah - never mind.

Suffice to say that once upon a time...

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:23:26 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:55:58 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Sep 6, 7:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.
Big brother is watching you........

If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)

Not through a closed men's room door.

Nice.

Dork. :)

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:26:57 -0000, Tim wrote:

On Sep 6, 8:20 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:55:58 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 7:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.

Big brother is watching you........

If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)

Er, should I???

In some parts of the world, I would be considered "dangerous".

Because I'm KKRRAAZZYY....

I'd rather watch "1984" instead....

Which one - the German one done in '84 or the Merry Can one in '56?

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Sep 6, 9:37 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:52:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing





wrote:
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.

I got the wife the Garmin 330, which cost a bit more and does much the
same. She loves it.

3D is a female thing. I like the 2D also, but since it's her toy...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Er, What kind of toy is it she loves so much?

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:37:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I got the wife the Garmin 330, which cost a bit more and does much the
same. She loves it.

I thought about that model, but price difference for relatively the
same features although the Tomtom One can add on the features and you
can pick which ones you want.

3D is a female thing. I like the 2D also, but since it's her toy...

Maybe. I just prefer the 2D.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.

Check out R-A-M for a dashboard mount. That's what I use for my Magellan.

It's a rubber covered, flexible, rather heavy contraption that can be
adjusted to conform to any dashboard contour.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.

Check out R-A-M for a dashboard mount. That's what I use for my Magellan.

It's a rubber covered, flexible, rather heavy contraption that can be
adjusted to conform to any dashboard contour.


Here's what I was referring to:

http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Here's what I was referring to:

http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm

I knew about those - last resort kind of thing because they are ugly.

Thanks though. Appreciate it.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Here's what I was referring to:

http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm

I knew about those - last resort kind of thing because they are ugly.

Thanks though. Appreciate it.

Functionality is not always beautiful. 80

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:59:39 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Here's what I was referring to:

http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm

I knew about those - last resort kind of thing because they are ugly.

Thanks though. Appreciate it.

Functionality is not always beautiful. 80

10-4.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Sep 6, 10:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:59:39 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Here's what I was referring to:

http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm

I knew about those - last resort kind of thing because they are ugly.

Thanks though. Appreciate it.

Functionality is not always beautiful. 80

10-4.

Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck. This summer on our trip from Fl to WY, my daughters BF had
one and it never helped do anything but cause arguments. Without it,
everyone relied on my INFALLIBLE sense of direction. With it, they
tried to argue with me. You have to realize that "infallible" means
"Never admit you are lost, just say you want to see something
interesting" and keep enough sense of direction to eventually get
where you are going.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:52:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.

I got the wife the Garmin 330, which cost a bit more and does much the
same. She loves it.

3D is a female thing. I like the 2D also, but since it's her toy...

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Sep 6, 8:43 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:26:57 -0000, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 8:20 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:55:58 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 7:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.

Big brother is watching you........

If you were Big Brother, wouldn't you watch me? :)

I'd rather watch "1984" instead....

Which one - the German one done in '84 or the Merry Can one in '56?

1984 in '84
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/

I didn't know there was a '56 I'll have to see if I can find that
one.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:07 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck.

That's because you are a Luddite. :)

I finally bit the bullet...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:07 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck.

That's because you are a Luddite. :)

If God wanted you to have GPS, you would have been born with GPS. I
really think it would be one of those toys that neither of us would use.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Check out R-A-M for a dashboard mount. That's what I use for my Magellan.

It's a rubber covered, flexible, rather heavy contraption that can be
adjusted to conform to any dashboard contour.


Here's what I was referring to:

http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm


Cool. Thanks for the tip. My wife's Garmin has started coming loose from
the windshield and I may have to look into something like that. Either that
or clean the windshield.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:07 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 6, 10:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:59:39 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:56:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Here's what I was referring to:

http://www.ram-mount.com/tomtom/ramb279to4_mounts.htm

I knew about those - last resort kind of thing because they are ugly.

Thanks though. Appreciate it.

Functionality is not always beautiful. 80

10-4.

Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck. This summer on our trip from Fl to WY, my daughters BF had
one and it never helped do anything but cause arguments. Without it,
everyone relied on my INFALLIBLE sense of direction. With it, they
tried to argue with me. You have to realize that "infallible" means
"Never admit you are lost, just say you want to see something
interesting" and keep enough sense of direction to eventually get
where you are going.

You're not female. To them, maps don't count, unless you're Mrs Eisboch,
who, I assume, can read a chart.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:07 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

Ya know, I've never understood the need (desire) for GPS in your car
or truck. This summer on our trip from Fl to WY, my daughters BF had
one and it never helped do anything but cause arguments. Without it,
everyone relied on my INFALLIBLE sense of direction. With it, they
tried to argue with me. You have to realize that "infallible" means
"Never admit you are lost, just say you want to see something
interesting" and keep enough sense of direction to eventually get
where you are going.

Yeah, but the pizza gets cold and you start piling up customer
complaints.

--Vic

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:18:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.


Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although I still
drive over 2,000 miles every month. Although not perfect, Mapquest has not
let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell phone call solves the
problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we will also use AAA
TripTik services.

So......what made you finally decide to buy one?


If you're male, you should be able to read a map. However, they are handy
for finding a street address in a town which doesn't have an insert on your
average state map.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.


Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although I still
drive over 2,000 miles every month. Although not perfect, Mapquest has
not let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell phone call
solves the problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we will also use AAA
TripTik services.

So......what made you finally decide to buy one?

They are far from perfect. They almost never take you the way you'd like to
go, especially on a long trip. They are not mind readers and cannot
anticipate little "short cuts" that the driver is familiar with.

For example, I know the back roads route to Orlando from our home. When I
program it into the GPS for someone out of town, the resultant route is far
from optimum. Your can go in an customize the route, but that turns into a
real PIA,

Where I find them quite useful is in a strange city and your looking for a
particular "point of interest" (POI). such as a Sears store or restaurant.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:17:50 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:43:00 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:18:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.


Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although I still
drive over 2,000 miles every month. Although not perfect, Mapquest has
not
let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell phone call solves
the
problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we will also use AAA
TripTik services.

So......what made you finally decide to buy one?


If you're male, you should be able to read a map. However, they are handy
for finding a street address in a town which doesn't have an insert on
your
average state map.

Ever notice that when you are in a strange town trying to find some
particular
place, (especially at night) most of the streets do not have street signs,
and
buildings often don't have numbers?



Quite frankly, no.


Don't know if it's 'most', but anyone who hasn't had the problem hasn't
traveled much. Another pain in the ass is street signs that are turned 90
degrees!

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:32:17 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:24:22 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:09:47 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


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m...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:37:53 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:17:50 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:43:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:18:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:ls51e3lf801sp4ge7s4c534i76emgiv6g9 @4ax.com...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no
bells
and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on
stuff,
you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty
damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight
to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near
impossible.
I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a
mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and
presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20
seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS
and
it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my
marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme
with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white
road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of
detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along
some
of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate
and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts.
I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make
a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a
Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you
get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D
display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.


Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although
I
still
drive over 2,000 miles every month. Although not perfect,
Mapquest
has
not
let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell phone call
solves
the
problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we will also use
AAA
TripTik services.

So......what made you finally decide to buy one?


If you're male, you should be able to read a map. However, they are
handy
for finding a street address in a town which doesn't have an insert
on
your
average state map.

Ever notice that when you are in a strange town trying to find some
particular
place, (especially at night) most of the streets do not have street
signs,
and
buildings often don't have numbers?



Quite frankly, no.


Then you have never been anywhere!



I can safely bet that I have more miles, including air, behind me than
you
do. Perhaps I just know how to travel. ;-)


HIGHLY unlikely. Perhaps you just thought you went somewhere? Watching
TV
travel
shows DOES NOT count. We are talking about driving on streets, anyway.
I
agree
that you can probably find your way around a somewhat planned city such
as
NYC
without a map or a GPS. If you had really done any real traveling,
however, you
would know that those situations are the exception.

Here's a little navigation tip that may help you some day... When
driving
on a
moonless cloudy night in the mountains of Vermont and you make your 4th
turn
onto yet another unmarked dirt road deep in the woods, you can tell
which
general direction you are headed by looking at any house you pass. They
all have
TV dish antennas, and they are all aimed roughly SOUTH.

You're welcome

Not a problem.

BTW: I try not to travel on moonless nights on dirt roads deep in the
woods. What exactly are you looking for when doing so?

Why does the Dueling Banjo's song come to mind? ;-)


'Cause you're got a fear that perhaps there are some homosexual tendencies
that you're finding it hard to control? You alone, of all the folks here,
continuously intimate that others might be gay. You do this when there is
absolutely nothing to support your silly comments.

Strange.

neat=gay?

Who knew?



John is always trying to defend homosexuals. Make your own conclusions.


Jim, I'm not trying to 'defend' you, I'm trying to 'explain' you!

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:37:53 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:17:50 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:43:00 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:18:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:ls51e3lf801sp4ge7s4c534i76emgiv6g9@4ax. com...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells
and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff,
you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible.
I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and
it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a
Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.


Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although I
still
drive over 2,000 miles every month. Although not perfect, Mapquest has
not
let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell phone call solves
the
problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we will also use AAA
TripTik services.

So......what made you finally decide to buy one?


If you're male, you should be able to read a map. However, they are
handy
for finding a street address in a town which doesn't have an insert on
your
average state map.

Ever notice that when you are in a strange town trying to find some
particular
place, (especially at night) most of the streets do not have street
signs,
and
buildings often don't have numbers?



Quite frankly, no.


Then you have never been anywhere!



I can safely bet that I have more miles, including air, behind me than you
do. Perhaps I just know how to travel. ;-)


A daughter who got lost on her way to Ocean City, after you taught her. (It
doesn't take a detailed city map to find Ocean City!)

What the hell do air miles have to do with street signs and unreadable
addresses?

BTW, would you believe that Salty was an airline pilot for Northwest? Maybe
you should think before speaking.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:09:47 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:37:53 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:17:50 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:43:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:18:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:ls51e3lf801sp4ge7s4c534i76emgiv6g9@4a x.com...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells
and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff,
you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty
damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near
impossible.
I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a
mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and
presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20
seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and
it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my
marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white
road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some
of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a
Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you
get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.


Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although I
still
drive over 2,000 miles every month. Although not perfect, Mapquest
has
not
let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell phone call
solves
the
problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we will also use
AAA
TripTik services.

So......what made you finally decide to buy one?


If you're male, you should be able to read a map. However, they are
handy
for finding a street address in a town which doesn't have an insert on
your
average state map.

Ever notice that when you are in a strange town trying to find some
particular
place, (especially at night) most of the streets do not have street
signs,
and
buildings often don't have numbers?



Quite frankly, no.


Then you have never been anywhere!



I can safely bet that I have more miles, including air, behind me than you
do. Perhaps I just know how to travel. ;-)


HIGHLY unlikely. Perhaps you just thought you went somewhere? Watching TV
travel
shows DOES NOT count. We are talking about driving on streets, anyway. I
agree
that you can probably find your way around a somewhat planned city such as
NYC
without a map or a GPS. If you had really done any real traveling,
however, you
would know that those situations are the exception.

Here's a little navigation tip that may help you some day... When driving
on a
moonless cloudy night in the mountains of Vermont and you make your 4th
turn
onto yet another unmarked dirt road deep in the woods, you can tell which
general direction you are headed by looking at any house you pass. They
all have
TV dish antennas, and they are all aimed roughly SOUTH.

You're welcome

Not a problem.

BTW: I try not to travel on moonless nights on dirt roads deep in the
woods. What exactly are you looking for when doing so?

Why does the Dueling Banjo's song come to mind? ;-)


'Cause you're got a fear that perhaps there are some homosexual tendencies
that you're finding it hard to control? You alone, of all the folks here,
continuously intimate that others might be gay. You do this when there is
absolutely nothing to support your silly comments.

Strange.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

....
I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Have a TomTom 910, rather happy with it too. Most useful in places you
have not been before.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

In dense cities like over here it will recalculate often after 100
metres. Without complaints!
I find the spoken directions to be very much to the point, no chatter.
It taught me some new ways in a city I have lived for quite a few years.
I even use it to remind me if I have to drive a route that differs
slightly from my trodden tracks ("my autopilot") :-)

Also: If a road is blocked, you want to avoid a certain point, or travel
through a given point - this is all readily done with a few clicks
simple enough even when driving (eg find alternative road block
100m). I also like the way it remembers previous addresses eg when
entering the city with the keyboard (touch screen) it will present the
last few used cities directly to select, if you have selected a city it
will present the last few streets in this city etc.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position.

That's because of the receiver, probably SIRFIII - they are good.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

Trouble comes (relatively) only if you are covered by electrical wires
overhead (tramway lines over here) or concrete with steel in it
(buildings, tunnels, also frequent over here). It will track all the
same using the magnetic compass, and previous speed info.

What can happen though is that it will indicate you are driving in the
water when you are still on the street follwing the waterway (off by 20
m) - but this is the limit of GPS unless you use differential GPS (eg
satellite based), which you usually only get for navigating on sea.
This will improve accuracy up to say 3-6 metres.

....
Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

It is not the Euro thing, but rather that it is not Windows based, but
Symbian (a different operating system, lean, geared towards touch
screens, cleaner user interface like Mac etc)

Enjoy

Marc

--
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I finally bit the bullet...
 

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I also forgot how to post apparently.

Dumbass.

Anyhoo....

I bought a GPS for my truck. TomTom ONE.

Man, this is a cool beans simple auto navigation system - no bells and
whistles - just straight navigation. If you want to add on stuff, you
can, but the base system is straight forward, simple and pretty damn
smart.

I live in a heavily wooded area and while driving around tonight to
see if I could give the GPS a headache, it was damn near impossible. I
could get it to start insisting that I turn around for about a mile,
but that was the worst - a mile later, it recalculated and presented
the correct route without prompting.

What surprized me was the sat aquisition time - less than 20 seconds
in my driveway and I had four satellites lock on and giving my
position. I compared the raw data (lat/lon) to my portable GPS and it
was spot on. I then took it to the boat and compared it to my marine
GPS - also spot on.

The night driving lighting is really nice - a calm blue scheme with
lighter shades of blue routes on a deep blue background - white road
lettering. Day lighting is crisp and clean with plenty of detail.

I was surprized at how accurate it was under tree cover along some of
the side roads I was traveling. The tracking was very accurate and
the directions were clear and precise.

My one complaint is the mount. I'm not big on window mounts. I'll
have to look around for a different mounting system.

Input is fairly intuitive with the touch screen. You will make a
mistake entering home the first time if only because TomTom is a Dutch
company and it's a very Euro oriented system. However, once you get
the base idea, everything falls into place quickly.

The 2D vs 3D display is personal preference. I like the 2D display
much better, but that's a personal preference thing.

For $200 is not a bad deal at all from Amazon.

OK, OK, I am now a believer. A customer showed me his Garmin this
morning............all I can say is WOW, I GOTTA GET ONE.

So the question becomes...........Tom-Tom or Garmin?

Which is preferred by those having one of these units?




Whichever one YOU find easiest to use and SEE...

I finally bit the bullet...
 

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


OK, OK, I am now a believer. A customer showed me his Garmin this
morning............all I can say is WOW, I GOTTA GET ONE.

So the question becomes...........Tom-Tom or Garmin?

Which is preferred by those having one of these units?



My opinion:

For the car: Tom-Tom
For the boat: Garmin

Tom-Tom is a user friendly, simple to operate auto GPS that requires very
little operator interaction to use. (Good when traveling at highway speeds
and need to pay attention to the road).

Eisboch

I finally bit the bullet...
 

On Sep 7, 4:18 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:


Not a bad price but I still am not convinced I need one, although I still drive over 2,000 miles every
month. Although not perfect, Mapquest has not
let me down 99.9% of the time. In those cases a cell
phone call solves the
problem

For our Baltimore-NYC-Boston-Maine trip next year we
will also use AAA TripTik services.


I'm with you....GPS is fantastically useful and (to me) essential on
the water, but I am not sold on them as being necessary at all in a
car or truck, where street signs, maps, and directions that you can
print off mapquest before you leave, can get you pretty much where you
want to go. (Not that I don't appreciate the luxury and convenience
of the nav systems in cars that talk to you and tell you where to
turn, etc; but for a known cheapskate like me - like I said I just
don't feel a need so far.)

richforman

I finally bit the bullet...
 

JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

OK, OK, I am now a believer. A customer showed me his Garmin this
morning............all I can say is WOW, I GOTTA GET ONE.

So the question becomes...........Tom-Tom or Garmin?

Which is preferred by those having one of these units?


My opinion:

For the car: Tom-Tom
For the boat: Garmin

Tom-Tom is a user friendly, simple to operate auto GPS that requires very
little operator interaction to use. (Good when traveling at highway speeds
and need to pay attention to the road).

Eisboch





Which Tom-Tom unit did you purchase?


I can assure you he purchased the most expensive one. ;)

When you have Richards money, you buy the most expensive one.

I finally bit the bullet...
 

In article ,
"JimH" ask wrote:

So the question becomes...........Tom-Tom or Garmin?

I went with Tom-Tom (910) and I am very happy with it, especially the
user interface. eg you see a blocked road ahead - one tap to get the
menu, another to get "find alternative" then one for "road block", and
it will let you select 100m, 300m 1000m etc.
Very unobtrusive but clear instructions. Nice views, switches to night
colors and night level automatically etc etc I just like the user
interface. And take the functionality for granted. Great GPS receiver
too.

Some people say the maps of Tom-Tom are better in Europe than in the
States. As I do not have another one to compare, you'd have to.

HTH

Marc

--
Switzerland/Europe
http://www.heusser.com
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