On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:03:26 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:43:30 -0000, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:26:44 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


There are many public and private lakes (including those run by the C of
E's ) that are now allowing or hiring hunters to kill the Canadian Geese
that are no longer migrating due to people feeding them. These geese
have taken over coves and lakes that would have been a brief stopover on
their migratory path, until people thought it would be cute or helpful
to feed them.

I don't think that's an accurate assessment. Migratory and non-migratory Canada geese are different
subspecies. Branta canadensis maxima being the larger non-migratory goose.

http://www.esatoday.com/arresident.html

Goose dogs are the only way to go.

Why I don't like 'em: "An average 10 pound adult goose will generate its
own body weight in excrement each month !

Excrement entering ponds via storm runoff can cause warm weather algae
blooms. These blooms are unsightly and often treated with algaecides. As
the algae quickly dies, dissolved oxygen may be greatly reduced, stressing
or killing pond fish. "

Dogs don't work. My brother had dogs on the golf course he managed. The
geese would just fly into the water when the dog came. The dog couldn't
swim fast enough to scare the geese.

Then my bro' got a radio controlled boat. They had a blast with that,
chasing the geese all around the water. But, eventually they hit a goose.
Goodbye boat.

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:52:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Dogs don't work. My brother had dogs on the golf course he managed. The
geese would just fly into the water when the dog came. The dog couldn't
swim fast enough to scare the geese.

You got the wrong trainer. The dog isn't supposed to chase them into
the water.

I work with BCs here in and around golf courses and haven't ever had
that problem.

It's all in how the dogs are trained.

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:55:36 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:52:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Dogs don't work. My brother had dogs on the golf course he managed. The
geese would just fly into the water when the dog came. The dog couldn't
swim fast enough to scare the geese.

You got the wrong trainer. The dog isn't supposed to chase them into
the water.

I work with BCs here in and around golf courses and haven't ever had
that problem.

It's all in how the dogs are trained.

The dogs don't 'chase' them into the water, the friggin' geese get smart
quick and fly into the friggin' water as soon as they see the dog!

There must be some stupid friggin' geese up there!

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:43 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:55:36 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:52:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Dogs don't work. My brother had dogs on the golf course he managed. The
geese would just fly into the water when the dog came. The dog couldn't
swim fast enough to scare the geese.

You got the wrong trainer. The dog isn't supposed to chase them into
the water.

I work with BCs here in and around golf courses and haven't ever had
that problem.

It's all in how the dogs are trained.

The dogs don't 'chase' them into the water, the friggin' geese get smart
quick and fly into the friggin' water as soon as they see the dog!

There must be some stupid friggin' geese up there!

I saw the Border Collies in action once, and they would swim after the
geese that lit in the water. The geese would take off after the dog
swam a short distance. I guess there's geese and geese, dogs and
dogs.

--Vic

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:47:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:43 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:55:36 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:52:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Dogs don't work. My brother had dogs on the golf course he managed. The
geese would just fly into the water when the dog came. The dog couldn't
swim fast enough to scare the geese.

You got the wrong trainer. The dog isn't supposed to chase them into
the water.

I work with BCs here in and around golf courses and haven't ever had
that problem.

It's all in how the dogs are trained.

The dogs don't 'chase' them into the water, the friggin' geese get smart
quick and fly into the friggin' water as soon as they see the dog!

There must be some stupid friggin' geese up there!

I saw the Border Collies in action once, and they would swim after the
geese that lit in the water. The geese would take off after the dog
swam a short distance. I guess there's geese and geese, dogs and
dogs.

--Vic

It could also depend on the size of the pond/lake. The geese to which I'm
referring would take off and fly to the other side of the water. Poor dog
would wear himself out in no time.

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:30:24 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:47:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:



I saw the Border Collies in action once, and they would swim after the
geese that lit in the water. The geese would take off after the dog
swam a short distance. I guess there's geese and geese, dogs and
dogs.

--Vic

It could also depend on the size of the pond/lake. The geese to which I'm
referring would take off and fly to the other side of the water. Poor dog
would wear himself out in no time.

Yeah, I was thinking along those lines, and forgot to mention the
lagoons weren't too wide, maybe 50 yards.
But what you said about smart geese might have something to it.
I wondered why the geese didn't fly down the lagoon a bit and land
again, but they didn't - they just flew off.
Might also be the dogs I saw somehow let the geese know something
you and me don't understand. I used to be a horseplayer, and have
read and believe that a better horse ("classier") can run up on a
cheaper horse and just by eyeballing him for a few strides make him
give up. Maybe there's a dog/goose version of that.

--Vic

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:55:36 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

You got the wrong trainer. The dog isn't supposed to chase them into
the water.

In Florida we know how to keep both geese and dogs out of the ponds:

Alligators.