"HK" wrote in message
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:26:44 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:24:44 -0400, john penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

There are more deer now in the USA than there ever have been. Their
natural predators have been eliminated and hunting is not allowed in
urban areas. So the deer have learned that they are safe if they stay
close to humans in urban areas. If they stray too far into the
country, they end up in someones freezer.

This is a new rule and nobody has signed on, yet, but it could happen.
An Urban Bow & Arrow Season!
http://www.ncwildlife.org/pg02_Regs/...ason_Dates.pdf

Gene,
There are many public and private lakes (including those run by the C of
E's ) that are now allowing or hiring hunters to kill the Canadian Geese
that are no longer migrating due to people feeding them. These geese
have taken over coves and lakes that would have been a brief stopover on
their migratory path, until people thought it would be cute or helpful
to feed them.

I have seen these geese killed in mass, and it really is not a pretty
sight. When people feed wildlife, they are removing the animals nature
fear of humans, and it is a recipe for disaster for both the humans they
meet and the animals themselves. Harry might think it is cute to feed
wildlife, but unfortunately it does not only effect Harry. When an
animal bites a neighbor or become sick from not eating a proper diet, it
is the animal who will be killed or ends up suffering, not the person
who is responsible for this behavior or their inability to fend for
themselves.

I don't disagree with what you have written, but I don't necessarily
think it is that simple. The animals were here first, and when we
destroy their habitat they make do with what is left.... whether it is
our lawn, our vegetable garden, or our flowers.

Other problems have been created by eliminating certain predators....
and irrationally restricting the harvesting of some animals. (While
allowing commercial harvesting of others to the point of
extinction...(for both hunter and prey...eg. the extinct NC
Oysterman.))




My fervent hope is that a few dozen of the geese around here that eat the
corn people toss out to them stop off during their migration south this
winter so they can crap on reggie retardo's head.

Reggie apparently *still* believes I care about what he posts. Dumb foch.

And the reason we try to help the animals around here, Gene, is precisely
as you outlined...the animals were here first, we destroyed they habitat,
they suffer because of us.


Actually you are 100% in error. The reason the Northeast and other more
northern areas have lots of geese all year is because man has provided lots
of habitat, so they do not have to migrate south for winter. Used to be
there were few open bodies of fresh water in the northern areas during
winter. Now with power plants and industry providing open water with their
cooling ponds and the fact that lots of grain and alfalfa is planted, they
have water and food. So too many birds stay on too small of an area. Lots
of large die offs from Avian Botulism. Too many birds on a pond and the
bacteria concentrates in the water.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:29:07 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:26:44 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:24:44 -0400, john penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

There are more deer now in the USA than there ever have been. Their
natural predators have been eliminated and hunting is not allowed in
urban areas. So the deer have learned that they are safe if they stay
close to humans in urban areas. If they stray too far into the
country, they end up in someones freezer.

This is a new rule and nobody has signed on, yet, but it could happen.
An Urban Bow & Arrow Season!
http://www.ncwildlife.org/pg02_Regs/...ason_Dates.pdf

Gene,
There are many public and private lakes (including those run by the C of
E's ) that are now allowing or hiring hunters to kill the Canadian Geese
that are no longer migrating due to people feeding them. These geese
have taken over coves and lakes that would have been a brief stopover on
their migratory path, until people thought it would be cute or helpful
to feed them.

I have seen these geese killed in mass, and it really is not a pretty
sight. When people feed wildlife, they are removing the animals nature
fear of humans, and it is a recipe for disaster for both the humans they
meet and the animals themselves. Harry might think it is cute to feed
wildlife, but unfortunately it does not only effect Harry. When an
animal bites a neighbor or become sick from not eating a proper diet, it
is the animal who will be killed or ends up suffering, not the person
who is responsible for this behavior or their inability to fend for
themselves.

I don't disagree with what you have written, but I don't necessarily
think it is that simple. The animals were here first, and when we
destroy their habitat they make do with what is left.... whether it is
our lawn, our vegetable garden, or our flowers.

Other problems have been created by eliminating certain predators....
and irrationally restricting the harvesting of some animals. (While
allowing commercial harvesting of others to the point of
extinction...(for both hunter and prey...eg. the extinct NC
Oysterman.))




My fervent hope is that a few dozen of the geese around here that eat the
corn people toss out to them stop off during their migration south this
winter so they can crap on reggie retardo's head.

Reggie apparently *still* believes I care about what he posts. Dumb foch.

And the reason we try to help the animals around here, Gene, is precisely
as you outlined...the animals were here first, we destroyed they habitat,
they suffer because of us.


Actually you are 100% in error. The reason the Northeast and other more
northern areas have lots of geese all year is because man has provided lots
of habitat, so they do not have to migrate south for winter. Used to be
there were few open bodies of fresh water in the northern areas during
winter. Now with power plants and industry providing open water with their
cooling ponds and the fact that lots of grain and alfalfa is planted, they
have water and food. So too many birds stay on too small of an area. Lots
of large die offs from Avian Botulism. Too many birds on a pond and the
bacteria concentrates in the water.


Ditto with deer, groundhogs, raccoons, squirrels, and a host of other
animals we shouldn't be feeding.