"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Sep 3, 6:03?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 07:58:24 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I attempted to go out in the little Boston Whaler to help but
quickly determined that I'd probably just add to the problem as another
possible casualty due to the sea state we've had up here for the past
few
days. (3-5 footers in close chop).

According to Chuck, those don't exist in the North Atlantic. And we
wouldn't be able to properly judge sea state anyway because "most" of
us are bozos with no experience in judging wave action. :)

Only the Manly Men of the Great Pacific North West can properly judge
sea states. :)

Somewhere I have some pictures taken during my Navy days aboard a 318 ft
Destroyer Escort at sea in the North Atlantic in February. If I can find
them and scan them, I'll post the on my website.

Maybe seeing the ship's hurricane bow completely submerged and 25 ft
waves
crashing on the fantail will convince him.

Eisboch

Nope. 25 foot waves in the middle of the North Atlantic in February
won't convince me that the boaters in the other thread suddenly
encountered legitimate 7 footers on a day when the weather was
otherwise moderate. Chop can be significantly increased by tidal
action or river outflow, but I continue to suspect that the folks who
lost (or abandoned) their boat embellished the height of the chop in
the retelling or, in their panic, overestimated the height of the
waves.


Chuck, you are sadly mistaken about changeable conditions here, "here"
meaning where I spent many years boating with my dad, from the Eastern end
of Long Island to Nantucket. And currently, my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane 4-6 hours
later. There are quite a few large shipwrecks under this lake.