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Wayne.B September 3rd 07 11:52 PM

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:13:38 -0400, HK wrote:

Surprising that Wayne doesn't have a high transomed inflatable to go
with his overinflated ego and floating Winnebago.


Floating windy bagel?

Ego? Did somone say EGO?

WooHoo, that's pretty funny considering the source.

Allow me to post some pictures of the latest oil change on the 6-71s.

Fascinating process.

Wayne.B September 3rd 07 11:56 PM

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:34:38 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Wow, now Wayne's a 'bad guy' too, Harry?


Looks like I finally graduated after years in training. On the other
hand, I prefer to follow Harry from a distance, and only once in a
while.

I'd like to think of myself as an even handed "criticizer".

It's all about boats, not about us. Let's lead by example.

Wayne.B September 4th 07 12:02 AM

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:57:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

It's getting freakin' ridiculous. I thought it was perfectly obvious
I was poking a little fun at Chuck, but nnoooooooooo - it's gotta be
something more than what it was.

Unbelievable.

Damn...


He's probably developed a few sensitive spots from being poked in the
same place a few times. We should all lighten up a bit. As I told
Herring: it's supposed to be about boats, not about us.

Now excuse me while I go slap some varnish on my floating windy bagel.
:-)

Dan September 4th 07 12:18 AM

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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Wow, now Wayne's a 'bad guy' too, Harry?

Soon it will be just you and you know who. Everyone else will be
'filtered'!
--
John H



Oh, yes, Im the great facilitator
Just laughing and gay like a clown
I seem to be what Im not, you see
Im wearing my heart like a crown
facilitating to anyone still around



Right on cue. So you are now officially "you know who" by your own
admission.

HK September 4th 07 12:19 AM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:13:38 -0400, HK wrote:

Surprising that Wayne doesn't have a high transomed inflatable to go
with his overinflated ego and floating Winnebago.


Floating windy bagel?

Ego? Did somone say EGO?

WooHoo, that's pretty funny considering the source.

Allow me to post some pictures of the latest oil change on the 6-71s.

Fascinating process.



I'd like to see those photos.

Short Wave Sportfishing September 4th 07 12:31 AM

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:02:10 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:57:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

It's getting freakin' ridiculous. I thought it was perfectly obvious
I was poking a little fun at Chuck, but nnoooooooooo - it's gotta be
something more than what it was.

Unbelievable.

Damn...


He's probably developed a few sensitive spots from being poked in the
same place a few times. We should all lighten up a bit. As I told
Herring: it's supposed to be about boats, not about us.


True enough.

Now excuse me while I go slap some varnish on my floating windy bagel.
:-)


Homer mmmmmmvarnish /Homer

Wayne.B September 4th 07 01:14 AM

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:19:23 -0400, HK wrote:

Allow me to post some pictures of the latest oil change on the 6-71s.

Fascinating process.



I'd like to see those photos.


We're in the Stamford, CT area for another couple of weeks. Stop by
and bring a camera. Old clothing would also be helpful (to protect
our large, fragile egos from that old dirty oil).

Look for a floating windy bagel with a high transom.

Gotta go now and measure that transom again. :-)

Chuck Gould September 4th 07 02:43 AM

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On Sep 3, 1:17?pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:21:39 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
After a moment's thought, I realized that your crap-stuffed comment
was either an unprovoked mean and nasty crack or you hadn't read my
comment in the other thread.


Or he was giving you a friendly poke in the ribs looking for a
"reaction".

It's an old north eastern tradition.


There has also been a very long tradition in rec.boats of taking
differences of opinion directly to ridiculous personal remarks.

I disagree with people rather frequently. I'm quite often but not
always right when I do. Nowhere except in "cyberspace" are people so
quick to back into the corner of "you're a thus and such" when an
opinion is questioned or challenged.

If my opinion is wrong, I would expect to be told why that opinion is
wrong rather than endure some tedious third-person version of "he's
wrong, and he's wrong because he's a butthole." Being a butthole,
(guilty sometimes) is a different issue that whether or not an opinion
has merit.



[email protected] September 4th 07 02:59 AM

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On Sep 3, 4:57 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


It's getting freakin' ridiculous. I thought it was perfectly obvious
I was poking a little fun at Chuck, but nnoooooooooo - it's gotta be
something more than what it was.



I saw the smiley face on the comment...


[email protected] September 4th 07 03:00 AM

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On Sep 3, 7:02 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
..

Now excuse me while I go slap some varnish on my floating windy bagel.
:-)



Sounds like a personal problem to me;)


Chuck Gould September 4th 07 03:05 AM

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On Sep 3, 1:57?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:17:09 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:21:39 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:


After a moment's thought, I realized that your crap-stuffed comment
was either an unprovoked mean and nasty crack or you hadn't read my
comment in the other thread.


Or he was giving you a friendly poke in the ribs looking for a
"reaction".


It's an old north eastern tradition.


You know - you just can't have any fun on this newsgroup.

Either somebody is going to take it personally, or change the thread
to something about unions/politics/nasty commentary about the personal
nature of whoever.

It's getting freakin' ridiculous. I thought it was perfectly obvious
I was poking a little fun at Chuck, but nnoooooooooo - it's gotta be
something more than what it was.

Unbelievable.

Damn...


Tom, you're right! It was perfectly obvious.

If there's such a thing as a newsgroup "relationship", ours has been
somewhat tense for quite a while. In light of that, I'd try to
specifically avoid making fun of you during a discussion, or of
spontaneously criticizing you in another thread. I'd try to avoid that
because it could very easily be misconstrued. Personal food-fights are
of no real value in the NG. Heck, they're not even really
entertaining. I'd want to try to avoid starting one.

Good friends may have a license to "poke fun" at one another. You and
I are not good friends, if we're anything we are cyber acquaintances.
I'd hope that we can behave like mutually respectful cyber
acquaintances; talk about boats, squabble over differences of opinion,
maybe even engage in an exchange of dueling websites... but without
presuming to make personal remarks part of the discussion. I don't
know you, have never met you, and expect there is more to T.F. than is
apparent in rec.boats. That leaves me well short of qualified to make
personal remarks about you, and if I am being fair to you I would
never presume license to do so.


HK September 4th 07 03:31 AM

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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 3, 1:57?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:17:09 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:21:39 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:
After a moment's thought, I realized that your crap-stuffed comment
was either an unprovoked mean and nasty crack or you hadn't read my
comment in the other thread.
Or he was giving you a friendly poke in the ribs looking for a
"reaction".
It's an old north eastern tradition.
You know - you just can't have any fun on this newsgroup.

Either somebody is going to take it personally, or change the thread
to something about unions/politics/nasty commentary about the personal
nature of whoever.

It's getting freakin' ridiculous. I thought it was perfectly obvious
I was poking a little fun at Chuck, but nnoooooooooo - it's gotta be
something more than what it was.

Unbelievable.

Damn...

Tom, you're right! It was perfectly obvious.

If there's such a thing as a newsgroup "relationship", ours has been
somewhat tense for quite a while. In light of that, I'd try to
specifically avoid making fun of you during a discussion, or of
spontaneously criticizing you in another thread. I'd try to avoid that
because it could very easily be misconstrued. Personal food-fights are
of no real value in the NG. Heck, they're not even really
entertaining. I'd want to try to avoid starting one.

Good friends may have a license to "poke fun" at one another. You and
I are not good friends, if we're anything we are cyber acquaintances.
I'd hope that we can behave like mutually respectful cyber
acquaintances; talk about boats, squabble over differences of opinion,
maybe even engage in an exchange of dueling websites... but without
presuming to make personal remarks part of the discussion. I don't
know you, have never met you, and expect there is more to T.F. than is
apparent in rec.boats. That leaves me well short of qualified to make
personal remarks about you, and if I am being fair to you I would
never presume license to do so.


I have to remember that excuse........it may come in handy, :-)




Poor Chuck. He dumps on everyone who doesn't meet his standard for
posting, and then when he gets a bit of it back, even in jest, he goes
rip****. Poor Chuck.

Chuck Gould September 4th 07 03:38 AM

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On Sep 3, 9:55?am, HK wrote:


Tone done yhour condescending attitude, Chuckster. Not only do you not
know most things, you don't even know most things about boating.
Sometimes "stuff happens" out on the water that has no easy explanation.- Hide quoted text -


Harry, there is a long list of boating-related subjects about which
I'm not qualified to comment.

The list would include most issues dealing with outboard motors, most
issues surrounding fishing, many issues related to the tuning,
rebuilding, or major repair of gasoline engines, some issues related
to diesels. I know darn little about sailing.

As a result, you will seldom find me commenting in threads concerning
those issues- and seldom offering any technical advice in those areas.
Basic rule I try to apply; if you can't speak from experience STFU.
You might consider experimenting with the same standard.



HK September 4th 07 03:48 AM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 9:55?am, HK wrote:

Tone done yhour condescending attitude, Chuckster. Not only do you not
know most things, you don't even know most things about boating.
Sometimes "stuff happens" out on the water that has no easy explanation.- Hide quoted text -


Harry, there is a long list of boating-related subjects about which
I'm not qualified to comment.

The list would include most issues dealing with outboard motors, most
issues surrounding fishing, many issues related to the tuning,
rebuilding, or major repair of gasoline engines, some issues related
to diesels. I know darn little about sailing.

As a result, you will seldom find me commenting in threads concerning
those issues- and seldom offering any technical advice in those areas.
Basic rule I try to apply; if you can't speak from experience STFU.
You might consider experimenting with the same standard.




Add to your list wave action in areas with which you have no familiarity.

Eisboch September 4th 07 12:26 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

On Sep 3, 6:03?am, "Eisboch" wrote:

Somewhere I have some pictures taken during my Navy days aboard a 318 ft
Destroyer Escort at sea in the North Atlantic in February. If I can find
them and scan them, I'll post the on my website.

Maybe seeing the ship's hurricane bow completely submerged and 25 ft
waves
crashing on the fantail will convince him.

Eisboch


Nope. 25 foot waves in the middle of the North Atlantic in February
won't convince me that the boaters in the other thread suddenly
encountered legitimate 7 footers on a day when the weather was
otherwise moderate. Chop can be significantly increased by tidal
action or river outflow, but I continue to suspect that the folks who
lost (or abandoned) their boat embellished the height of the chop in
the retelling or, in their panic, overestimated the height of the
waves.


I may be out of turn as I didn't read the "other" thread .... whatever it
was.
I also agree that many weekend captains tend to embellish wave height.
However, I can also attest to the fact that the sea state in the Northeast
can change very quickly and dramatically, often due to a storm or front that
is well offshore.

Eisboch



[email protected] September 4th 07 12:30 PM

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On Sep 3, 4:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane 4-6 hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.


What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


A good chunk of bunker, and a three oz weight (running water bluefish
rig) and if you are within say 50-60 yards I can put it on your deck;)


JoeSpareBedroom September 4th 07 12:36 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 3, 4:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane 4-6
hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.


What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


A good chunk of bunker, and a three oz weight (running water bluefish
rig) and if you are within say 50-60 yards I can put it on your deck;)


There's another idea. I haven't touched the surf casting rod in ages. Maybe
it's time to start practicing.



Eisboch September 4th 07 12:42 PM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane 4-6 hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.


The worst I've experienced as a recreational boater was confused 7-8 footers
about 20 miles off the coast of Delaware. Fortunately, it was on the
Navigator and although bouncy, we were not in any danger. A passing
tropical storm 100 miles offshore was the culprit. At one point,
mid-afternoon, we responded to a Coast Guard request to assist a small,
open fishing boat that was in trouble near our coordinates, however a
commercial ship got to them before us. After that, I opted for an
unscheduled overnight at a marina in Delaware until the storm passed and the
seas calmed down.

Eisboch



[email protected] September 4th 07 12:43 PM

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On Sep 3, 10:05 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
I don't
know you, have never met you, and expect there is more to T.F. than is
apparent in rec.boats. That leaves me well short of qualified to make
personal remarks about you, and if I am being fair to you I would
never presume license to do so.


I have met TF a few times, on the water, and in route. And in all
seriousness and in my opinion, TF has no "internet persona", what you
see is what you get. He is the same in person as he is here, that has
been my obversation. That being said, I try not to tease him
unless I have a well placed smiley face, becauses, well, TF is SW, and
you just don't mess with SW;)


HK September 4th 07 12:49 PM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.
What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)



When we were along the ICW in northern Florida, not a day would go by
without a couple of overstuffed "cruisers" wallowing on by, tossing off
absolutely huge wakes that would wash up and over the marshes, erode the
shorelines, rock everyone's floating dock and, on occasion, flip some
poor fisherman's little boat along the edges. But we got our revenge, at
least with some of them: just north of St. Augustine Inlet, there was a
lovely sandbar that lurked just a couple of feet beneath the surface
except at dead low tide and managed to give a couple of the oblivious
"capitanos" a jolt.

[email protected] September 4th 07 12:58 PM

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On Sep 4, 7:36 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...





On Sep 3, 4:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane 4-6
hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.


What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of my
boat.


One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


A good chunk of bunker, and a three oz weight (running water bluefish
rig) and if you are within say 50-60 yards I can put it on your deck;)


There's another idea. I haven't touched the surf casting rod in ages. Maybe
it's time to start practicing.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think SW would back me on this one, I can't fish, but I can sure as
hell cast! Gimme light tackle, low branches, little wind, whatever,
I'll stick it under a branch or in a three foot hole in the weeds at
30 yards.. A surf rod and a chunk of rotting bunker, 50 yards, you are
toast, yer' gettin slimed;)


Eisboch September 4th 07 12:58 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...

That's a description of experience in 5-6 footers on the West Coast.
99% of pleasure boaters, including me, won't normally venture out when
prevailing conditions create 5-6 foot windwaves. With this experience
and similar frames of reference, it's hard to visualize 7 footers
springing up unexpectedly with wind speeds of 10-15 knots. Maybe the
laws of physics are different on the East Coast, or maybe the
unfortunate crew with the new boat overestimated the height of the
waves.


I know nothing about west coast boating or the effects of wind or storms on
the near shore line. I do know that the Northeast sea states are seriously
affected by the near shore bottom topography, relatively shallow water
extending many miles offshore in some areas and the irregular, rocky
shoreline profiles. Sea state can vary dramatically, location to location
under the same general conditions of wind or offshore storms.

Ask any recreational boater who, for the first time, travels south on Cape
Cod Bay on a calm, flat beautiful day, transits the Cape Cod Canal then
become unglued as they hit Buzzard' Bay and their whole world changes.

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom September 4th 07 01:02 PM

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wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 4, 7:36 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...





On Sep 3, 4:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane 4-6
hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.


What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of
my
boat.


One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


A good chunk of bunker, and a three oz weight (running water bluefish
rig) and if you are within say 50-60 yards I can put it on your deck;)


There's another idea. I haven't touched the surf casting rod in ages.
Maybe
it's time to start practicing.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think SW would back me on this one, I can't fish, but I can sure as
hell cast! Gimme light tackle, low branches, little wind, whatever,
I'll stick it under a branch or in a three foot hole in the weeds at
30 yards.. A surf rod and a chunk of rotting bunker, 50 yards, you are
toast, yer' gettin slimed;)


The only problem I see is that your target would live to boat again the next
day. You should be practicing on mannequins.



[email protected] September 4th 07 01:30 PM

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On Sep 4, 8:02 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...





On Sep 4, 7:36 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Sep 3, 4:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane 4-6
hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.


What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of
my
boat.


One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


A good chunk of bunker, and a three oz weight (running water bluefish
rig) and if you are within say 50-60 yards I can put it on your deck;)


There's another idea. I haven't touched the surf casting rod in ages.
Maybe
it's time to start practicing.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think SW would back me on this one, I can't fish, but I can sure as
hell cast! Gimme light tackle, low branches, little wind, whatever,
I'll stick it under a branch or in a three foot hole in the weeds at
30 yards.. A surf rod and a chunk of rotting bunker, 50 yards, you are
toast, yer' gettin slimed;)


The only problem I see is that your target would live to boat again the next
day. You should be practicing on mannequins.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Mannequins? chuckle Frekin' land lubbers, shrugs.


JoeSpareBedroom September 4th 07 01:43 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 4, 8:02 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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ups.com...





On Sep 4, 7:36 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message


groups.com...


On Sep 3, 4:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane
4-6
hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have
seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty
and
I'm lucky to be here.


What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions
at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100'
of
my
boat.


One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


A good chunk of bunker, and a three oz weight (running water
bluefish
rig) and if you are within say 50-60 yards I can put it on your
deck;)


There's another idea. I haven't touched the surf casting rod in ages.
Maybe
it's time to start practicing.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think SW would back me on this one, I can't fish, but I can sure as
hell cast! Gimme light tackle, low branches, little wind, whatever,
I'll stick it under a branch or in a three foot hole in the weeds at
30 yards.. A surf rod and a chunk of rotting bunker, 50 yards, you are
toast, yer' gettin slimed;)


The only problem I see is that your target would live to boat again the
next
day. You should be practicing on mannequins.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Mannequins? chuckle Frekin' land lubbers, shrugs.


Why waste good bait before you're good at the task? :-)



[email protected] September 4th 07 01:58 PM

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On Sep 4, 8:43 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Sep 4, 7:36 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Sep 3, 4:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane
4-6
hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have
seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty
and
I'm lucky to be here.


What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions
at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100'
of
my
boat.


One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


A good chunk of bunker, and a three oz weight (running water
bluefish
rig) and if you are within say 50-60 yards I can put it on your
deck;)


There's another idea. I haven't touched the surf casting rod in ages.
Maybe
it's time to start practicing.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think SW would back me on this one, I can't fish, but I can sure as
hell cast! Gimme light tackle, low branches, little wind, whatever,
I'll stick it under a branch or in a three foot hole in the weeds at
30 yards.. A surf rod and a chunk of rotting bunker, 50 yards, you are
toast, yer' gettin slimed;)


The only problem I see is that your target would live to boat again the
next
day. You should be practicing on mannequins.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Mannequins? chuckle Frekin' land lubbers, shrugs.


Why waste good bait before you're good at the task? :-)- Hide quoted text -

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Don't be so linear Joe;) If you get the guy, you have wasted nothing,
if you miss, you let it drop to the bottom, and fish! Self proclaimed
boy genieous's, Geeze. You got to get on the water more, these things
will just start to come to you naturally, trust me;)

And you probably got a low transom too!


JoeSpareBedroom September 4th 07 02:01 PM

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wrote in message
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On Sep 4, 8:43 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Sep 4, 8:02 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Sep 4, 7:36 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Sep 3, 4:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely
insane
4-6
hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have
seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't
pretty
and
I'm lucky to be here.


What really fun is when the natural waves from from two
directions
at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within
100'
of
my
boat.


One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70
out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


A good chunk of bunker, and a three oz weight (running water
bluefish
rig) and if you are within say 50-60 yards I can put it on your
deck;)


There's another idea. I haven't touched the surf casting rod in
ages.
Maybe
it's time to start practicing.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think SW would back me on this one, I can't fish, but I can sure
as
hell cast! Gimme light tackle, low branches, little wind, whatever,
I'll stick it under a branch or in a three foot hole in the weeds at
30 yards.. A surf rod and a chunk of rotting bunker, 50 yards, you
are
toast, yer' gettin slimed;)


The only problem I see is that your target would live to boat again
the
next
day. You should be practicing on mannequins.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Mannequins? chuckle Frekin' land lubbers, shrugs.


Why waste good bait before you're good at the task? :-)- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


Don't be so linear Joe;) If you get the guy, you have wasted nothing,
if you miss, you let it drop to the bottom, and fish! Self proclaimed
boy genieous's, Geeze. You got to get on the water more, these things
will just start to come to you naturally, trust me;)

And you probably got a low transom too!


Did someone say low transom?
:-)



Eisboch September 4th 07 04:48 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 

"Jim" wrote in message
.. .

Go over there to see a photo of water crashing over the bow of my deck
boat.



Is that a bi-plane lashed to the deck?

You're a lot older than I thought .... :-)

Eisboch



Jim September 4th 07 04:52 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
.. .

Go over there to see a photo of water crashing over the bow of my deck
boat.



Is that a bi-plane lashed to the deck?

You betcha.

You're a lot older than I thought .... :-)

You betcha.

Eisboch



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


JoeSpareBedroom September 4th 07 06:35 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:49:03 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.
What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of
my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)



When we were along the ICW in northern Florida, not a day would go by
without a couple of overstuffed "cruisers" wallowing on by, tossing off
absolutely huge wakes that would wash up and over the marshes, erode the
shorelines, rock everyone's floating dock and, on occasion, flip some
poor fisherman's little boat along the edges. But we got our revenge, at
least with some of them: just north of St. Augustine Inlet, there was a
lovely sandbar that lurked just a couple of feet beneath the surface
except at dead low tide and managed to give a couple of the oblivious
"capitanos" a jolt.


Seeing boats run aground was a thrill for you, huh? Well, Harry, for most
people, that would be the sign of a psychological disorder, but for
you...well, it's just a 'foible'.
--
John H


In this case, Harry is correct in enjoying the other boater's misfortune.

I can safely say that being considerate of other boaters involves an extra
effort of EXACTLY ZERO. Anyone who does NOT do it needs to learn, and for
some people, misfortune is the only way to learn.

Or, to put it another way, the only correct set of boating manners is the
one practiced by ME. Anything outside of that set indicates intent to do
harm.

This is not debatable. Isn't that nice?



HK September 4th 07 06:45 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:49:03 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.
What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of
my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)

When we were along the ICW in northern Florida, not a day would go by
without a couple of overstuffed "cruisers" wallowing on by, tossing off
absolutely huge wakes that would wash up and over the marshes, erode the
shorelines, rock everyone's floating dock and, on occasion, flip some
poor fisherman's little boat along the edges. But we got our revenge, at
least with some of them: just north of St. Augustine Inlet, there was a
lovely sandbar that lurked just a couple of feet beneath the surface
except at dead low tide and managed to give a couple of the oblivious
"capitanos" a jolt.

Seeing boats run aground was a thrill for you, huh? Well, Harry, for most
people, that would be the sign of a psychological disorder, but for
you...well, it's just a 'foible'.
--
John H


In this case, Harry is correct in enjoying the other boater's misfortune.

I can safely say that being considerate of other boaters involves an extra
effort of EXACTLY ZERO. Anyone who does NOT do it needs to learn, and for
some people, misfortune is the only way to learn.

Or, to put it another way, the only correct set of boating manners is the
one practiced by ME. Anything outside of that set indicates intent to do
harm.

This is not debatable. Isn't that nice?




I have to admit, "Joe," that you are far more tolerant of the newsgroup
idiots than I ever have been. And I thought Herringbrain was getting
back into boating.

JoeSpareBedroom September 4th 07 06:47 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:49:03 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen
a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.
What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions
at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of
my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)

When we were along the ICW in northern Florida, not a day would go by
without a couple of overstuffed "cruisers" wallowing on by, tossing off
absolutely huge wakes that would wash up and over the marshes, erode
the
shorelines, rock everyone's floating dock and, on occasion, flip some
poor fisherman's little boat along the edges. But we got our revenge,
at
least with some of them: just north of St. Augustine Inlet, there was a
lovely sandbar that lurked just a couple of feet beneath the surface
except at dead low tide and managed to give a couple of the oblivious
"capitanos" a jolt.
Seeing boats run aground was a thrill for you, huh? Well, Harry, for
most
people, that would be the sign of a psychological disorder, but for
you...well, it's just a 'foible'.
--
John H


In this case, Harry is correct in enjoying the other boater's misfortune.

I can safely say that being considerate of other boaters involves an
extra effort of EXACTLY ZERO. Anyone who does NOT do it needs to learn,
and for some people, misfortune is the only way to learn.

Or, to put it another way, the only correct set of boating manners is the
one practiced by ME. Anything outside of that set indicates intent to do
harm.

This is not debatable. Isn't that nice?



I have to admit, "Joe," that you are far more tolerant of the newsgroup
idiots than I ever have been. And I thought Herringbrain was getting back
into boating.


He's not worth much effort. As the old saying goes, you can't turn a pig's
rectum into a Ferrari. Or something like that.



JoeSpareBedroom September 4th 07 07:01 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:35:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:49:03 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen
a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.
What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions
at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of
my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


When we were along the ICW in northern Florida, not a day would go by
without a couple of overstuffed "cruisers" wallowing on by, tossing off
absolutely huge wakes that would wash up and over the marshes, erode the
shorelines, rock everyone's floating dock and, on occasion, flip some
poor fisherman's little boat along the edges. But we got our revenge, at
least with some of them: just north of St. Augustine Inlet, there was a
lovely sandbar that lurked just a couple of feet beneath the surface
except at dead low tide and managed to give a couple of the oblivious
"capitanos" a jolt.

Seeing boats run aground was a thrill for you, huh? Well, Harry, for
most
people, that would be the sign of a psychological disorder, but for
you...well, it's just a 'foible'.
--
John H


In this case, Harry is correct in enjoying the other boater's misfortune.

I can safely say that being considerate of other boaters involves an extra
effort of EXACTLY ZERO. Anyone who does NOT do it needs to learn, and for
some people, misfortune is the only way to learn.

Or, to put it another way, the only correct set of boating manners is the
one practiced by ME. Anything outside of that set indicates intent to do
harm.

This is not debatable. Isn't that nice?


Nor is it debatable that you and Harry think alike. You've demonstrated
that consistently.
--
John H


So, you think it's fine to be inconsiderate, when it's convenient for you.

That's good to know. I would think you'd want to keep something like that to
yourself.



John H. September 4th 07 07:19 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:42:17 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

Go over there to see a photo of water crashing over the bow of my deck boat.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


I don't recall Chuckster spending much time out in the ocean, or at least
offering up purple prose about it. Isn't he more of a protected waters
bloater, er, boater?



I don't know.

I confess, I haven't read many of the posts here for the last couple of
months. With Mrs. E's blessings, I've spent many more hours on the boats
this summer than I have at home and I don't bother with an Internet
connection on them.

Unfortunately, Labor Day is a reminder that the remaining days are
numbered, and the "honey-do" list has now turned into a two book volume.

Eisboch


I like your airplane. My boat isn't quite big enough to land my plane on.
But, the future is coming!
--
John H

John H. September 4th 07 07:21 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:57:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:17:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:21:39 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

After a moment's thought, I realized that your crap-stuffed comment
was either an unprovoked mean and nasty crack or you hadn't read my
comment in the other thread.


Or he was giving you a friendly poke in the ribs looking for a
"reaction".

It's an old north eastern tradition.


You know - you just can't have any fun on this newsgroup.

Either somebody is going to take it personally, or change the thread
to something about unions/politics/nasty commentary about the personal
nature of whoever.

It's getting freakin' ridiculous. I thought it was perfectly obvious
I was poking a little fun at Chuck, but nnoooooooooo - it's gotta be
something more than what it was.

Unbelievable.

Damn...


Tom, Harry is most definitely *not* poking fun with his constant barrage of
offensive bull****.

Your post sounded *very* much like it was authored by Harry. You may think
Harry and his 'foibles' are cute, but imitating him is not going to get any
laughs.
--
John H

John H. September 4th 07 07:24 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:44:48 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
Wow, now Wayne's a 'bad guy' too, Harry?

Soon it will be just you and you know who. Everyone else will be
'filtered'!
--
John H



Oh, yes, Im the great facilitator
Just laughing and gay like a clown
I seem to be what Im not, you see
Im wearing my heart like a crown
facilitating to anyone still around


And how's your mom doing, Don? Did you ever take her out to dinner? Have
you ever taken her fishing? With that new boat, I'll bet she'd love to go!
--
John H

John H. September 4th 07 07:26 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:49:55 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Wow, now Wayne's a 'bad guy' too, Harry?

Soon it will be just you and you know who. Everyone else will be
'filtered'!
--
John H



Oh, yes, Im the great facilitator
Just laughing and gay like a clown
I seem to be what Im not, you see
Im wearing my heart like a crown
facilitating to anyone still around




Poor Herring. His life here apparently is aimed at getting a rise out of
me. He's been no more successful at that than he's been with his dick.


Actually, Harry, both of my kids talk to me.

Is your discussing my dick considered a 'foible'?

Don, does your association with this make you proud?
--
John H

John H. September 4th 07 07:32 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:49:03 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.
What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)



When we were along the ICW in northern Florida, not a day would go by
without a couple of overstuffed "cruisers" wallowing on by, tossing off
absolutely huge wakes that would wash up and over the marshes, erode the
shorelines, rock everyone's floating dock and, on occasion, flip some
poor fisherman's little boat along the edges. But we got our revenge, at
least with some of them: just north of St. Augustine Inlet, there was a
lovely sandbar that lurked just a couple of feet beneath the surface
except at dead low tide and managed to give a couple of the oblivious
"capitanos" a jolt.


Seeing boats run aground was a thrill for you, huh? Well, Harry, for most
people, that would be the sign of a psychological disorder, but for
you...well, it's just a 'foible'.
--
John H

John H. September 4th 07 07:33 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:42:21 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

my boating is done on Lake
Ontario, which can be like a pond at noon, and completely insane 4-6 hours
later.


I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.


The worst I've experienced as a recreational boater was confused 7-8 footers
about 20 miles off the coast of Delaware. Fortunately, it was on the
Navigator and although bouncy, we were not in any danger. A passing
tropical storm 100 miles offshore was the culprit. At one point,
mid-afternoon, we responded to a Coast Guard request to assist a small,
open fishing boat that was in trouble near our coordinates, however a
commercial ship got to them before us. After that, I opted for an
unscheduled overnight at a marina in Delaware until the storm passed and the
seas calmed down.

Eisboch


Did you check the transom height on that small fishing boat?
--
John H

John H. September 4th 07 08:00 PM

Sad event in Scituate
 
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:35:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:49:03 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I grew up boating on the eastern end of Lake Ontario and have seen a
few 6 and 7 foot waves from a too small boat. It wasn't pretty and
I'm lucky to be here.
What really fun is when the natural waves from from two directions at
once,
along with a couple of wakes from pea-brains who pass within 100' of
my
boat.

One of these days....I'm tellin' ya...I'm gonna bring a .45-70 out
there
with me. "Officer - I swear it looked like a buffalo". :-)


When we were along the ICW in northern Florida, not a day would go by
without a couple of overstuffed "cruisers" wallowing on by, tossing off
absolutely huge wakes that would wash up and over the marshes, erode the
shorelines, rock everyone's floating dock and, on occasion, flip some
poor fisherman's little boat along the edges. But we got our revenge, at
least with some of them: just north of St. Augustine Inlet, there was a
lovely sandbar that lurked just a couple of feet beneath the surface
except at dead low tide and managed to give a couple of the oblivious
"capitanos" a jolt.


Seeing boats run aground was a thrill for you, huh? Well, Harry, for most
people, that would be the sign of a psychological disorder, but for
you...well, it's just a 'foible'.
--
John H


In this case, Harry is correct in enjoying the other boater's misfortune.

I can safely say that being considerate of other boaters involves an extra
effort of EXACTLY ZERO. Anyone who does NOT do it needs to learn, and for
some people, misfortune is the only way to learn.

Or, to put it another way, the only correct set of boating manners is the
one practiced by ME. Anything outside of that set indicates intent to do
harm.

This is not debatable. Isn't that nice?


Nor is it debatable that you and Harry think alike. You've demonstrated
that consistently.
--
John H


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