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SWS Tom and BAR
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:49:08 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: Hey, my daddy was Air Force! -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H |
SWS Tom and BAR
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H They have changed the name and mission for MAC a couple of times. I was in a Military Airlift Wing. MAC was originally MATS Military Air Transport Service, and Now it is the Strategic Air Command. A wing was a unit under the command structure. |
SWS Tom and BAR
On Sep 1, 7:16 am, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message . .. "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry your dad lost an eye, John. And I appreciate his service, especially. You said your dad was in the "Air Force" technically speaking, instead of the Air Force, wasn't your dad in the USAAF? (Army Air Force)? I figure your dad was in WW2 and the USAF wasn't really established until Korea. Curious. I don't know, that's why I'm asking. Tim |
SWS Tom and BAR
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:54:39 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 7:16 am, John H. wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message . .. "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry your dad lost an eye, John. And I appreciate his service, especially. You said your dad was in the "Air Force" technically speaking, instead of the Air Force, wasn't your dad in the USAAF? (Army Air Force)? I figure your dad was in WW2 and the USAF wasn't really established until Korea. Curious. I don't know, that's why I'm asking. Tim He was in the USAAF until it became the USAF. He retired in 1960 or thereabouts, when B-47's were in vogue. While we were in Puerto Rico (1953-55), B-36's were in vogue. Those were some noisy suckers! -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H |
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JimH wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) No fight. We don't consider the Air Force a military service. They eat in dinning facilities instead of chow halls. They live in housing units instead of barracks. They.... |
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Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 7:16 am, John H. wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry your dad lost an eye, John. And I appreciate his service, especially. You said your dad was in the "Air Force" technically speaking, instead of the Air Force, wasn't your dad in the USAAF? (Army Air Force)? I figure your dad was in WW2 and the USAF wasn't really established until Korea. Curious. I don't know, that's why I'm asking. The Air Force was established at about the same time the Army almost succeeded in killing of the USMC. This was back in '47 and '48. If you asked the Army they would have said they were absorbing the USMC. This is also when the Dept. of Defense was born and the War Department and Navy Department were moved under the DOD. |
SWS Tom and BAR
"BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction. Close Air Support? Air Farce = B52's at 30,000 feet USMC = F/A 18's at 1,000 feet. When I was in, there were no F-18's. F102's and F104's. My unit got two of the first 5 C-5's delivered to the air force. I is old. |
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