SWS Tom and BAR
 

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We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's
platoon.
When
in
a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84
recruits)?
Hello?
Hello?
Goodbye. Never mind.
Sorry, I thought...

Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you
for
an answer on.
Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about
13
each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent
making 40.
The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6
files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a
HQ
platoon.

Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade.

From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about
60
to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have
anywhere
from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the
platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have
platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of
graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell
knows
how they are doing it now in the "New Corps."
Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I
thought
it was a static number and arrangement.
In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15
to
20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout
all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It
is
a people management issue.

In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.

Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was
at PI.

My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.

My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge
of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about
life and survival from him.

SWS Tom and BAR
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:06:16 -0400, BAR wrote:

JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

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We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon.
When
in
a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84
recruits)?
Hello?
Hello?
Goodbye. Never mind.
Sorry, I thought...

Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for
an answer on.
Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13
each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40.
The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6
files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ
platoon.

Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade.

From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60
to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere
from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the
platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have
platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of
graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows
how they are doing it now in the "New Corps."
Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought
it was a static number and arrangement.
In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15 to
20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout
all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It is
a people management issue.
In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.
Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was
at PI.

My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.

SWS Tom and BAR
 

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:06:16 -0400, BAR wrote:

JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask
wrote:

"JimH" ask wrote in message
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We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's
platoon.
When
in
a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84
recruits)?
Hello?
Hello?
Goodbye. Never mind.
Sorry, I thought...

Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you
for
an answer on.
Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of
about 13
each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent
making 40.
The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually
6
files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a
HQ
platoon.

Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade.

From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of
about 60
to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have
anywhere
from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of
the
platoons as training progresses. From June through September you
have
platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of
graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell
knows
how they are doing it now in the "New Corps."
Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I
thought
it was a static number and arrangement.
In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15
to
20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout
all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It
is
a people management issue.

In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.

Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was
at PI.

My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.

My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge
of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about
life and survival from him.


And that was 1965.

SWS Tom and BAR
 

Calif Bill wrote:
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.
Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was
at PI.
My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.
My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge
of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about
life and survival from him.


And that was 1965.



Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the
clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean
dining facility.

SWS Tom and BAR
 

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.
Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was
at PI.
My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.
My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in
charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a
lot about life and survival from him.


And that was 1965.

Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean
sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining
facility.

Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had
a brain. ;)

SWS Tom and BAR
 

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:17:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.
Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather
was
at PI.
My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.
My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in
charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a
lot about life and survival from him.


And that was 1965.

Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean
sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining
facility.

Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he
had a brain. ;)

Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight?

My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-)

It's funny how that works.

We had two Sergeants who were former Air Force. They had to go
through the whole deal with recruit training including LeJeune/Geiger
cycle.

They were bumped a grade right out of Boot to Sergeant.

I knew several guys who went Air Force and were bumped two grades sans
any additional training other than uniform issue. Nobody I knew went
into the Navy after their Marine hitch, although there were stories.
One went Army wtih a bump of two grades.

I sometimes wish I had done the switch to Air Force - it would have
made a great career.

SWS Tom and BAR
 

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.
Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather
was
at PI.
My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.
My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in
charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a
lot about life and survival from him.


And that was 1965.

Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the
clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean
dining facility.

Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he
had a brain. ;)


Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight?

My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-)


Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force
likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet.
Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better
than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.

SWS Tom and BAR
 

On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.
Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather
was
at PI.
My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.
My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in
charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a
lot about life and survival from him.

And that was 1965.

Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the
clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean
dining facility.

Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he
had a brain. ;)

Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight?

My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-)

Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force
likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet.
Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better
than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing.

No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick
pony.

er, not really

?:

SWS Tom and BAR
 

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR
wrote:
In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.
Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my
grandfather
was
at PI.
My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.
My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at
Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in
charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We
learned a
lot about life and survival from him.

And that was 1965.

Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the
clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean
dining facility.

Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe
he
had a brain. ;)

Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight?

My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-)

Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air
Force
likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet.
Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better
than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing.

No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick
pony.

er, not really

?:


We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part
I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron.

SWS Tom and BAR
 

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR
wrote:
In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly.
Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my
grandfather
was
at PI.
My DI was right out of WWII/Korea.

Heh... :)

Of course, that was 1966.
My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at
Frozen
Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was
in
charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We
learned a
lot about life and survival from him.

And that was 1965.

Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the
clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean
dining facility.

Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe
he
had a brain. ;)

Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight?

My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-)

Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air
Force
likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet.
Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably
better
than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing.

No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick
pony.

er, not really

?:


We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the
part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron.


oops.
Military Airlift Wing.