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We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a
march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? TIA! BTW: It is now 2 1/2 weeks at Parris Island for him with a November 9th graduation date, provided there are no set backs. We sure hope to be receiving a personal letter from him soon. ;-) |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message .. . We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Never mind. Other way around. |
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JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." |
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"JimH" ask wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought it was a static number and arrangement. Air Force basic 42 years ago, we had about 50 and when we march we were in 4 squads, 4 squad leaders. |
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JimH wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought it was a static number and arrangement. In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15 to 20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It is a people management issue. |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:06:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought it was a static number and arrangement. In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15 to 20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It is a people management issue. In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:06:16 -0400, BAR wrote: JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought it was a static number and arrangement. In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15 to 20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It is a people management issue. In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:06:16 -0400, BAR wrote: JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought it was a static number and arrangement. In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15 to 20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It is a people management issue. In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:06:16 -0400, BAR wrote: JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought it was a static number and arrangement. In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15 to 20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It is a people management issue. In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:06:16 -0400, BAR wrote: JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought it was a static number and arrangement. In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15 to 20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It is a people management issue. In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:06:16 -0400, BAR wrote: JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:21 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... We may be able to view some on-line photos of our son's platoon. When in a march and formation is the platoon 4 across and 21 deep (84 recruits)? Hello? Hello? Goodbye. Never mind. Sorry, I thought... Whatever. It was a simple question about the USMC that I asked you for an answer on. Typically a platoon is comprised of about 40 troops. 3 files of about 13 each, 1 squad leader and 12 of the squad with a platoon Sargent making 40. The next larger formation is called a company mass which is usually 6 files by 14 or 15 troops in two sets. Three fighting platoons and a HQ platoon. Bigger than that an you have one big assed parade. From October through May you have platoons in USMC boot camp of about 60 to 70 when training starts and by the time you graduate you have anywhere from 35 to 40. Washouts and recycles reduce and swell the size of the platoons as training progresses. From June through September you have platoons upwards of 80 which are reduced to 40 or 50 by the time of graduation. This information was accurate 26 years ago. Who the hell knows how they are doing it now in the "New Corps." Thanks! Just trying to get a handle on what a USMC Platoon is. I thought it was a static number and arrangement. In boot camp you have to work with what you were given, 4 ranks of 15 to 20 is about as big as you want. More than that and the DI has to shout all the time and the guys in back start to have a problem hearing. It is a people management issue. In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) |
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On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: |
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"Tim" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:49:08 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: Hey, my daddy was Air Force! -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H They have changed the name and mission for MAC a couple of times. I was in a Military Airlift Wing. MAC was originally MATS Military Air Transport Service, and Now it is the Strategic Air Command. A wing was a unit under the command structure. |
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On Sep 1, 7:16 am, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message . .. "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry your dad lost an eye, John. And I appreciate his service, especially. You said your dad was in the "Air Force" technically speaking, instead of the Air Force, wasn't your dad in the USAAF? (Army Air Force)? I figure your dad was in WW2 and the USAF wasn't really established until Korea. Curious. I don't know, that's why I'm asking. Tim |
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:54:39 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 7:16 am, John H. wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message . .. "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry your dad lost an eye, John. And I appreciate his service, especially. You said your dad was in the "Air Force" technically speaking, instead of the Air Force, wasn't your dad in the USAAF? (Army Air Force)? I figure your dad was in WW2 and the USAF wasn't really established until Korea. Curious. I don't know, that's why I'm asking. Tim He was in the USAAF until it became the USAF. He retired in 1960 or thereabouts, when B-47's were in vogue. While we were in Puerto Rico (1953-55), B-36's were in vogue. Those were some noisy suckers! -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H |
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JimH wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) No fight. We don't consider the Air Force a military service. They eat in dinning facilities instead of chow halls. They live in housing units instead of barracks. They.... |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:17:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) It's funny how that works. We had two Sergeants who were former Air Force. They had to go through the whole deal with recruit training including LeJeune/Geiger cycle. They were bumped a grade right out of Boot to Sergeant. I knew several guys who went Air Force and were bumped two grades sans any additional training other than uniform issue. Nobody I knew went into the Navy after their Marine hitch, although there were stories. One went Army wtih a bump of two grades. I sometimes wish I had done the switch to Air Force - it would have made a great career. We had a guy in my platoon in boot who was a former Staff Sargent in the Army. After he graduated from boot he was advanced to Corporal. |
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Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 7:16 am, John H. wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:30 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then again, every other branch has units that does the same thing. No disrespect at all, but I always looked at the USAF as a one trick pony. er, not really ?: We are a 2 trick pony. High altitude, large bomb load bombers and the part I was in. The bus service of the sky. Military Airlift Squadron. oops. Military Airlift Wing. Wasn't it MAC? Military Airlift Command? My dad was in SAC. Strategic Air Command. He flew in B-29's out of Okinawa at one point, and then worked on B-47's later. He lost an eye and had to go into ground power. No more flying. He retired as an E-6, after 30 years, with five boys. -- ***** Hope your day is better than decent! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry your dad lost an eye, John. And I appreciate his service, especially. You said your dad was in the "Air Force" technically speaking, instead of the Air Force, wasn't your dad in the USAAF? (Army Air Force)? I figure your dad was in WW2 and the USAF wasn't really established until Korea. Curious. I don't know, that's why I'm asking. The Air Force was established at about the same time the Army almost succeeded in killing of the USMC. This was back in '47 and '48. If you asked the Army they would have said they were absorbing the USMC. This is also when the Dept. of Defense was born and the War Department and Navy Department were moved under the DOD. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:37 -0400, BAR wrote: In the "new" corps, it's much more "teaching" friendly. Just imagine the teaching methods used in 1925 when my grandfather was at PI. My DI was right out of WWII/Korea. Heh... :) Of course, that was 1966. My DI at Airforce boot camp was a former Marine that served at Frozen Chozen. Was a great instructor. We were the last flight he was in charge of, as his next duty was as head DI for the USAF. We learned a lot about life and survival from him. And that was 1965. Why would an Jarhead enlist in the AirForce? I guess it was for the clean sheets, air conditioning and hot food in the chow hall, I mean dining facility. Better pay? I think there was a lack of slots after the war. Maybe he had a brain. ;) Ouch. How much are you charging for a ticket to this fight? My bet...........Jarheads.........hands down. ;-) Nope, Air Force wins. Them Jarheads like hand to hand stuff. The Air Force likes to reach out and touch them from a distance. Maybe 50,000 feet. Air Force does one thing that the military does very well. Proably better than any other branch. Make loud noises, and sow distruction. Close Air Support? Air Farce = B52's at 30,000 feet USMC = F/A 18's at 1,000 feet. When I was in, there were no F-18's. F102's and F104's. My unit got two of the first 5 C-5's delivered to the air force. I is old. |
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