On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:42:31 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:14:17 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

LOL, Harry you sure seem to be hung up on this transom thing.

You noticed that also. Methinks he is a mite sensitive perhaps.

You might think that. I tend to think that Harry just enjoys kicking
ass. Pretty funny seeing him tossing around a ten-man tag team
by his lonesome.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:42:31 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:14:17 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

LOL, Harry you sure seem to be hung up on this transom thing.
You noticed that also. Methinks he is a mite sensitive perhaps.

You might think that. I tend to think that Harry just enjoys kicking
ass. Pretty funny seeing him tossing around a ten-man tag team
by his lonesome.

--Vic


:} Hey...no fair letting my secret out of the bag!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:03:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

LOL, Harry you sure seem to be hung up on this transom thing.

You noticed that also. Methinks he is a mite sensitive perhaps.

You might think that. I tend to think that Harry just enjoys kicking
ass. Pretty funny seeing him tossing around a ten-man tag team
by his lonesome.

Do not confuse name calling and dancing around an important issue with
"kicking butt".

Harry's boating with Cleopatra: Right in d' Nile.

Whenever you see clouds of smoke there's fire somewhere.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:03:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

LOL, Harry you sure seem to be hung up on this transom thing.
You noticed that also. Methinks he is a mite sensitive perhaps.

You might think that. I tend to think that Harry just enjoys kicking
ass. Pretty funny seeing him tossing around a ten-man tag team
by his lonesome.

Do not confuse name calling and dancing around an important issue with
"kicking butt".

Harry's boating with Cleopatra: Right in d' Nile.

Whenever you see clouds of smoke there's fire somewhere.



The Cleo analogy would be more appropriate for you; you're the one with
the slow-moving floating RV barge. BTW, how long will that boat float
once you put a nice big hole in the bottom?

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:18:30 -0400, HK wrote:

how long will that boat float
once you put a nice big hole in the bottom?

Longer than yours... :-)

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:18:30 -0400, HK wrote:

how long will that boat float
once you put a nice big hole in the bottom?

Longer than yours... :-)


Really? Your barge has flotation, eh?

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:49:38 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:03:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

LOL, Harry you sure seem to be hung up on this transom thing.

You noticed that also. Methinks he is a mite sensitive perhaps.

You might think that. I tend to think that Harry just enjoys kicking
ass. Pretty funny seeing him tossing around a ten-man tag team
by his lonesome.

Do not confuse name calling and dancing around an important issue with
"kicking butt".

Harry's boating with Cleopatra: Right in d' Nile.

Whenever you see clouds of smoke there's fire somewhere.

Oh, I'm learning a bit about transom cutouts, following seas, ocean
drift fishing, crab pot entanglement, etc. That's good, but I've read
about many sinkings in countless accident reports.
Transom cutouts were never raised as the root cause of any accident
to the best of my recollection.
But some here decided to climb into the ring with Harry, wearing
transom cutout jock straps.
All I see is Harry tossing them over the ropes. Too funny.
Now I'm open-minded about it. When I first saw how close to the water
that Parker cutout is, it raised my inexperienced eyebrows.
I have almost swamped low transom boats when backing in lakes, but
have zilch experience with small boats in "heavy" seas.
I thought Harry's answers about it were well-reasoned, and Tom didn't
see it as a safety issue either. My impression is that Tom and Harry
have extensive experience with and knowledge about this type of boat,
and the waters it's suitable for.
You posted a link to where some kids got in trouble and sank grand
dad's boat. I didn't see anything in that article about the transom,
the real cause of the sinking, or what model boat it was. From the
story, the kid might have just failed to put in the drain plug.
I did see that the kid attempted to get it moving to self-bail.
Just guessing here, but from what Harry has said deep transom cutouts
may have made that attempt successful if the boat had one.
So who's blowing smoke?
Did the boat-sinking you posted a link to have anything to do with a
deep transom cutout?
Me, I'm just a curious spectator. Pass the popcorn.

--Vic

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:54:24 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:49:38 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:03:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

LOL, Harry you sure seem to be hung up on this transom thing.

You noticed that also. Methinks he is a mite sensitive perhaps.

You might think that. I tend to think that Harry just enjoys kicking
ass. Pretty funny seeing him tossing around a ten-man tag team
by his lonesome.

Do not confuse name calling and dancing around an important issue with
"kicking butt".

Harry's boating with Cleopatra: Right in d' Nile.

Whenever you see clouds of smoke there's fire somewhere.

Oh, I'm learning a bit about transom cutouts, following seas, ocean
drift fishing, crab pot entanglement, etc. That's good, but I've read
about many sinkings in countless accident reports.
Transom cutouts were never raised as the root cause of any accident
to the best of my recollection.
But some here decided to climb into the ring with Harry, wearing
transom cutout jock straps.
All I see is Harry tossing them over the ropes. Too funny.
Now I'm open-minded about it. When I first saw how close to the water
that Parker cutout is, it raised my inexperienced eyebrows.
I have almost swamped low transom boats when backing in lakes, but
have zilch experience with small boats in "heavy" seas.
I thought Harry's answers about it were well-reasoned, and Tom didn't
see it as a safety issue either. My impression is that Tom and Harry
have extensive experience with and knowledge about this type of boat,
and the waters it's suitable for.
You posted a link to where some kids got in trouble and sank grand
dad's boat. I didn't see anything in that article about the transom,
the real cause of the sinking, or what model boat it was. From the
story, the kid might have just failed to put in the drain plug.
I did see that the kid attempted to get it moving to self-bail.
Just guessing here, but from what Harry has said deep transom cutouts
may have made that attempt successful if the boat had one.
So who's blowing smoke?
Did the boat-sinking you posted a link to have anything to do with a
deep transom cutout?
Me, I'm just a curious spectator. Pass the popcorn.

--Vic

You are absolutely correct to believe everything Harry has to say. His
integrity is unquestionable. Ask him about his lobster boat.
--
John H

Around 8/17/2007 3:54 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

Oh, I'm learning a bit about transom cutouts, following seas, ocean
drift fishing, crab pot entanglement, etc. That's good, but I've read
about many sinkings in countless accident reports.
Transom cutouts were never raised as the root cause of any accident
to the best of my recollection.
But some here decided to climb into the ring with Harry, wearing
transom cutout jock straps.
All I see is Harry tossing them over the ropes. Too funny.

Hmm... It is all rather entertaining, and at the very least it's on
topic.

Now I'm open-minded about it. When I first saw how close to the water
that Parker cutout is, it raised my inexperienced eyebrows.
I have almost swamped low transom boats when backing in lakes, but
have zilch experience with small boats in "heavy" seas.

It is NOT something to be done lightly or without experience, but it IS
possible to run in heavy seas with very little freeboard, a low transom,
and an inadequate splashwell. I do NOT recommend it unless you know
_exactly_ what you're doing, and have lots of luck.

Been there, unintentionally done that, didn't have fun (when they say
small craft warning, they mean something a *little* larger than
Blue-Boat!), and now unless it's an emergency I will stay in port if the
winds are even hinting that they might be higher than the length of my boat.



Me, I'm just a curious spectator. Pass the popcorn.

Seconded! Do we have any salt or melted butter to go with that?


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:42:31 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:14:17 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

LOL, Harry you sure seem to be hung up on this transom thing.
You noticed that also. Methinks he is a mite sensitive perhaps.

You might think that. I tend to think that Harry just enjoys kicking
ass. Pretty funny seeing him tossing around a ten-man tag team
by his lonesome.

--Vic
Vic,
I hope you know that no one ever wins an newsgroup arguement. I used
this as a great boating discussion. Harry is the one who got so upset
and started calling everyone assholes. It reminds me of someone saying
a postal worker was kicking ass when he goes postal.