"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:11:47 -0700,
wrote:

http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/temp/Movie_1.wmv

These movies were taken while we were bucking an outgoing tide at the
entrance to the Cape Cod Canal. We were idling which usually gives us
around 3 knots. My GPS was indicating 1 to 2 knots SOG but in this
case I believe it was actually reporting our backwards progress.
Notice that the waves are overtaking us.

Help me out here.

You were heading into an outgoing tide at the Canal?

Because that doesn't make any sense.

Not sure what you're getting at, is this a trick question ???

We were heading "up" Buzzards bay or "east" in terms of the canal in the Hog
Island/Onset bay area approaching the west end of the canal a around 4:30PM
on 7/7. The tide charts for that day show High Tide at the railroad bridge
as 2:42PM and show the current turning west at 3:28PM.

So here is a crappy ASCII art diagram of our situation:

- - - - - - - Current flow - - - - - - -
West - - - - - - - Boat direction - - - - - - East
- - - - - - - Current flow - - - - - - -

Steve P.

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:20:06 -0400, "Steve P"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:11:47 -0700,
wrote:

http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/temp/Movie_1.wmv

These movies were taken while we were bucking an outgoing tide at the
entrance to the Cape Cod Canal. We were idling which usually gives us
around 3 knots. My GPS was indicating 1 to 2 knots SOG but in this
case I believe it was actually reporting our backwards progress.
Notice that the waves are overtaking us.

Help me out here.

You were heading into an outgoing tide at the Canal?

Because that doesn't make any sense.

Not sure what you're getting at, is this a trick question ???

We were heading "up" Buzzards bay or "east" in terms of the canal in the Hog
Island/Onset bay area approaching the west end of the canal a around 4:30PM
on 7/7. The tide charts for that day show High Tide at the railroad bridge
as 2:42PM and show the current turning west at 3:28PM.

So here is a crappy ASCII art diagram of our situation:

- - - - - - - Current flow - - - - - - -
West - - - - - - - Boat direction - - - - - - East
- - - - - - - Current flow - - - - - - -

I understood what you posted - the video shows something entirely
different.

If you look at the video, you are relatively motionless as compared to
the shore.

The waves are coming at you and passing you from the stern.

Unless it's some kind of optical delusion that I can't parse. :)

Short Wave wrote:
If you look at the video, you are relatively motionless as compared to
the shore.
The waves are coming at you and passing you from the stern.
Unless it's some kind of optical delusion that I can't parse. :)

I'm not the video poster, but looks the current is running one way and
the wind/waves are going the other. Like this:

West--------- Wind & Waves -------East
---- - - - - - - Current flow - - - - - - -
----- - - - - - Boat direction - - - - - -

Rick

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:04:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:03:30 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Your points are exactly why I think this has been a valuable
discussion. Even Harry's original position was that if you know how
to handle a boat, you will not have any water coming on board.

That position is correct only if "knowing how to handle a boat" means
avoiding potential problems by staying out of adverse conditions.
Water will most definitely come aboard in a big way under the right
circumstances. The skill is in avoiding those circumstances.


Ahh, Reggie *Retardo* yet *again*. I doubt I've ever posted that if you
know how to handle a boat, you will not have any water coming on board.

I'm more convinced than ever that *R. Retardo* doesn't have a boat.

Harry Krause,

I am willing to place a $10,000 bet that I do. If you will do the same
about your lobster boat, I will be $20,000 richer.

Maybe Harry would bet with both of us. He'd have a chance to make a lot of
money!
--
John H

wrote in message
...
Short Wave wrote:
If you look at the video, you are relatively motionless as compared to
the shore.
The waves are coming at you and passing you from the stern.
Unless it's some kind of optical delusion that I can't parse. :)

I'm not the video poster, but looks the current is running one way and
the wind/waves are going the other. Like this:

West--------- Wind & Waves -------East
---- - - - - - - Current flow - - - - - - -
----- - - - - - Boat direction - - - - - -

Rick

'Zacktly Rick!

Like I said we were idling and probably actually being carried backwards by
the current in relationship to the shore. The wind driven waves which had
been building all day were bucking the current and overtaking us. The
conditions this day were well within the capabilities of my low transom boat
but these are classic inlet/bar conditions that can be the cause of a
swamping.

Steve P.

HK wrote:

Hmmm. Possibility, if I can find one with a 1" end, or someone with a
substantial lathe...the boat hook fitting is typically 1" inside diameter.

Try one of your union "craftsmen". Good luck.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:03:30 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Your points are exactly why I think this has been a valuable
discussion. Even Harry's original position was that if you know how
to handle a boat, you will not have any water coming on board.

That position is correct only if "knowing how to handle a boat" means
avoiding potential problems by staying out of adverse conditions.
Water will most definitely come aboard in a big way under the right
circumstances. The skill is in avoiding those circumstances.


Ahh, Reggie *Retardo* yet *again*. I doubt I've ever posted that if
you know how to handle a boat, you will not have any water coming on
board.

I'm more convinced than ever that *R. Retardo* doesn't have a boat.

Harry Krause,

I am willing to place a $10,000 bet that I do. If you will do the same
about your lobster boat, I will be $20,000 richer.


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