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here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder
problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my shoulders all the time. The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead. Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ? Thanks for any help. |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:42:26 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote: I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my shoulders all the time. The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead. Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ? Thanks for any help. Don't see why not. You'd have to find the right gear to engage the fly wheel and a little relay system to disengage the starter once the engine starts, but it could be done. I feel your pain by the way - I have the same problem. |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:42:26 -0700, quizno mouse wrote: I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my shoulders all the time. The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead. Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ? Thanks for any help. Don't see why not. You'd have to find the right gear to engage the fly wheel and a little relay system to disengage the starter once the engine starts, but it could be done. I feel your pain by the way - I have the same problem. My 6hp Evinrude Yachtwin was a bit hard starting for the first time this year...but after that only a couple of pulls were needed. |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
quizno mouse wrote:
I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my shoulders all the time. The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead. Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ? Thanks for any help. The Evinrude/Johnson 6 should start on the first or second pull. Try pulling the cord just enough to engage the pinion on the flywheel while facing the outboard, then pull sharply towards you with both hands hitting your chest with the recoil handle. This will prevent any dislocation issues. For the electric start, that would be overkill & a lot of extra work - & weight, about double that of the 56 lb. 6 as it is now when you include the battery & cables. And then you would have to occasionally charge the battery. You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the needed parts. Rob |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote: .. You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the needed parts. Rob Agreed! Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different flywheel also. |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote: quizno mouse wrote: . You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the needed parts. Rob Agreed! Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different flywheel also. It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring. But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear. Rob |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:22:53 -0000, Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote: quizno mouse wrote: . You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the needed parts. Rob Agreed! Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different flywheel also. While I've never done it, I've seen a few done with lawnmower starters. Didn't look that hard. |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
On Aug 15, 5:33?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:22:53 -0000, Tim wrote: On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote: quizno mouse wrote: . You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the needed parts. Rob Agreed! Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different flywheel also. While I've never done it, I've seen a few done with lawnmower starters. Didn't look that hard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - possibly not, Tom, then again, a small outboard starter looks like a lawn mower starter, too. The trick I suppose , really wouldn't be trying to find a gear to match, but rather to find a compatable starter and make a mount. ant the same time finding a correct tolerance to mesh the gears. = PITA |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote: On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote: quizno mouse wrote: . You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the needed parts. Rob Agreed! Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different flywheel also. It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring. But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a meshing pull rope start? If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an electric start option... interesting |
here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote: quizno mouse wrote: . You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the needed parts. Rob Agreed! Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different flywheel also. It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring. But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a meshing pull rope start? If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an electric start option... interesting I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a start button. Simple as that. |
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