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HK August 15th 07 02:53 PM

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.
Rob
Agreed!
Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.
It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting


I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.



Wow! An electric start johnson...that must have driven the wimmens wild!

Short Wave Sportfishing August 15th 07 03:01 PM

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:53:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.
Rob
Agreed!
Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.
It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting


I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.


Wow! An electric start johnson...that must have driven the wimmens wild!


You ought to see the batteries.

HK August 15th 07 03:03 PM

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:53:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.
Rob
Agreed!
Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.
It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting
I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.

Wow! An electric start johnson...that must have driven the wimmens wild!


You ought to see the batteries.



Speaking of electrics...I have to go hook the new GPS up to the new VHF
so I can DSC or send out disaster signals or somesuch nonsense. I've
read the appropriate sections of the two manuals several times and have
decided that whoever designs this stuff has his head up his ass.

Short Wave Sportfishing August 15th 07 04:50 PM

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:03:08 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:53:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.
Rob
Agreed!
Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.
It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting
I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.
Wow! An electric start johnson...that must have driven the wimmens wild!


You ought to see the batteries.



Speaking of electrics...I have to go hook the new GPS up to the new VHF
so I can DSC or send out disaster signals or somesuch nonsense. I've
read the appropriate sections of the two manuals several times and have
decided that whoever designs this stuff has his head up his ass.


It's not that hard. In fact, I think, not sure about this, there are
adaptor cables for the radio and the GPS.

Just follow the color code the In/Out - pretty straight forward.

You need to register your DSC code before the system will recognise
you.

John August 15th 07 08:09 PM

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 
The biggest difference between "lawn mower parts" and marine parts is that
marine parts go to extreme lengths to not have open sparks. A lawn mower
starter is not going to have the necessary covers or protection. I think it
would be VERY unsafe to even try to hook something like that up, better to
buy a motor with a starter built in.





"quizno mouse" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder
problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes
and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string
starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead
and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my
shoulders all the time.
The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's
why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead.
Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ?

Thanks for any help.





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