here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder
problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes
and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string
starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead
and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my
shoulders all the time.
The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's
why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead.
Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ?

Thanks for any help.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:42:26 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote:

I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder
problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes
and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string
starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead
and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my
shoulders all the time.
The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's
why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead.
Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ?

Thanks for any help.

Don't see why not. You'd have to find the right gear to engage the
fly wheel and a little relay system to disengage the starter once the
engine starts, but it could be done.

I feel your pain by the way - I have the same problem.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:42:26 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote:

I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder
problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes
and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string
starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead
and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my
shoulders all the time.
The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's
why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead.
Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ?

Thanks for any help.

Don't see why not. You'd have to find the right gear to engage the
fly wheel and a little relay system to disengage the starter once the
engine starts, but it could be done.

I feel your pain by the way - I have the same problem.

My 6hp Evinrude Yachtwin was a bit hard starting for the first time this
year...but after that only a couple of pulls were needed.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

quizno mouse wrote:
I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder
problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes
and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string
starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead
and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my
shoulders all the time.
The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's
why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead.
Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ?

Thanks for any help.


The Evinrude/Johnson 6 should start on the first or second pull. Try
pulling the cord just enough to engage the pinion on the flywheel while
facing the outboard, then pull sharply towards you with both hands
hitting your chest with the recoil handle. This will prevent any
dislocation issues.

For the electric start, that would be overkill & a lot of extra work - &
weight, about double that of the 56 lb. 6 as it is now when you include
the battery & cables. And then you would have to occasionally charge
the battery.

You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.

Rob

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
..

You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.

Rob

Agreed!

Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.

Rob

Agreed!

Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.



It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:22:53 -0000, Tim wrote:

On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.

You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.

Rob

Agreed!

Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.

While I've never done it, I've seen a few done with lawnmower
starters. Didn't look that hard.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

On Aug 15, 5:33?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:22:53 -0000, Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.

You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.

Rob

Agreed!

Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.

While I've never done it, I've seen a few done with lawnmower
starters. Didn't look that hard.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

possibly not, Tom, then again, a small outboard starter looks like a
lawn mower starter, too. The trick I suppose , really wouldn't be
trying to find a gear to match, but rather to find a compatable
starter and make a mount. ant the same time finding a correct
tolerance to mesh the gears. = PITA

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.

Rob

Agreed!

Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.

It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.

Rob

Agreed!

Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.

It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting

I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.
Rob
Agreed!
Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.
It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting

I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.


Wow! An electric start johnson...that must have driven the wimmens wild!

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:53:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.
Rob
Agreed!
Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.
It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting

I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.

Wow! An electric start johnson...that must have driven the wimmens wild!

You ought to see the batteries.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:53:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.
Rob
Agreed!
Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.
It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting
I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.
Wow! An electric start johnson...that must have driven the wimmens wild!

You ought to see the batteries.


Speaking of electrics...I have to go hook the new GPS up to the new VHF
so I can DSC or send out disaster signals or somesuch nonsense. I've
read the appropriate sections of the two manuals several times and have
decided that whoever designs this stuff has his head up his ass.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:03:08 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:53:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:02 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Aug 15, 12:19?am, trainfan1 wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:08 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
quizno mouse wrote:
.
You might move/trade up to a 9.9 with electric start & built-in
alternator by the time you fabricate the brackets & source all of the
needed parts.
Rob
Agreed!
Trying to mount a starter motor on an engine that wasn't designed for
it is a royal PITA. Another thing to note is that seeing you engine
wasn't designed for electric start, does the flywheel even have teeth
on it? if not, then that means you'd have to come up with a different
flywheel also.
It will already have nearly the correct type of flywheel as it has the
pinion type recoil starter, save for the teeth are cast recessed into
the flywheel, not on a hardened flywheel ring.

But is there an electric starter pinion out there to match it? It will
be trial & error at best. The 9.9/15 starter would be a good first try
if he wishes to undertake the project. And it will chew up the flywheel
unless you can source a plastic or composite pinion gear.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
OK rob, so evidently this isn't a "lawnmower" dype recoil start that
is build to fit right ont he end of the flywheel, this DOES have a
meshing pull rope start?

If that be the case,t hen I would imagine there might have been an
electric start option...

interesting
I know on my Johnson when it was retrofitted to electric start, it was
really just a question of bolting a bracket to the block, adding a
start button.

Simple as that.
Wow! An electric start johnson...that must have driven the wimmens wild!

You ought to see the batteries.


Speaking of electrics...I have to go hook the new GPS up to the new VHF
so I can DSC or send out disaster signals or somesuch nonsense. I've
read the appropriate sections of the two manuals several times and have
decided that whoever designs this stuff has his head up his ass.

It's not that hard. In fact, I think, not sure about this, there are
adaptor cables for the radio and the GPS.

Just follow the color code the In/Out - pretty straight forward.

You need to register your DSC code before the system will recognise
you.

here's a stupid question Outboard starter....
 

The biggest difference between "lawn mower parts" and marine parts is that
marine parts go to extreme lengths to not have open sparks. A lawn mower
starter is not going to have the necessary covers or protection. I think it
would be VERY unsafe to even try to hook something like that up, better to
buy a motor with a starter built in.





"quizno mouse" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a real hard time cranking my pull start outboard ( shoulder
problems) I have a 6 hp Evinrude twin that I often use on small lakes
and I was wondering if I could remove the column type pull string
starter and install a small 12vdc lawn tractor type starter instead
and have a battery onboard to crank it up instead of dislocating my
shoulders all the time.
The wind-up starter is vertical and is about 7 inches in height that's
why I was hoping to substitute it for a small starter instead.
Could it be done and has anybody ever seen it done ?

Thanks for any help.