Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote:

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105

Opps.

That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this
happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha
four stroke.

Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that
Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so
it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer.

Interesting all the same.



Well, every method of boatbuilding can encounter boo-boos, but the two
piece hull method offers little but cheapness.

Molding a bottom half of a boat and a top half of a boat and glueing
them together with Plexus saves a lot of labor and weight, and sometimes
it works well and sometimes it doesn't. Sure makes it easy to hide
defects, though.

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And
then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is
glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:40:08 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote:

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105

Opps.

That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this
happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha
four stroke.

Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that
Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so
it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer.

Interesting all the same.



Well, every method of boatbuilding can encounter boo-boos, but the two
piece hull method offers little but cheapness.

Molding a bottom half of a boat and a top half of a boat and glueing
them together with Plexus saves a lot of labor and weight, and sometimes
it works well and sometimes it doesn't. Sure makes it easy to hide
defects, though.

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And
then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is
glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

Triumph.

Just click on 'bubba test' at the bottom.
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:14:49 -0500, John H. wrote:



Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

Triumph.

Just click on 'bubba test' at the bottom.

Whoops! http://tinyurl.com/yrszfd


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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote:

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105

Opps.

That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this
happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha
four stroke.

Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that
Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so
it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer.

Interesting all the same.



Well, every method of boatbuilding can encounter boo-boos, but the two
piece hull method offers little but cheapness.

Molding a bottom half of a boat and a top half of a boat and glueing them
together with Plexus saves a lot of labor and weight, and sometimes it
works well and sometimes it doesn't. Sure makes it easy to hide defects,
though.

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And then
a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is glassed
onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

I dont know, but I do know of a mfr. that is so proud of their work that
they don't finish it off with an inner liner. :-))


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Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote:

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105

Opps.

That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this
happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha
four stroke.

Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that
Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so
it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer.

Interesting all the same.



Well, every method of boatbuilding can encounter boo-boos, but the two
piece hull method offers little but cheapness.

Molding a bottom half of a boat and a top half of a boat and glueing
them together with Plexus saves a lot of labor and weight, and
sometimes it works well and sometimes it doesn't. Sure makes it easy
to hide defects, though.

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the
hull is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then
real stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction.
And then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels
is glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

I dont know, but I do know of a mfr. that is so proud of their work that
they don't finish it off with an inner liner. :-))



Indeed. I admire the glossiness of my gelcoated inner hull all the time,
knowing that if there were problems or a leak between the hull/deck
joint, I'd know about it.

Last week I watched a rigger drill a hole through the bottom of a Parker
so he could install a second bronze pick-up and valve. The circle he cut
out was 7/8" of an inch thick. No foam, no balsa. Just layer after layer
of fiberglass and resin.

Same with my MaXum. When I installed the windlass, the foredeck turned
out to be 1" thick. Solid glass.
JR

HK wrote:



Indeed. I admire the glossiness of my gelcoated inner hull all the time,
knowing that if there were problems or a leak between the hull/deck
joint, I'd know about it.

Last week I watched a rigger drill a hole through the bottom of a Parker
so he could install a second bronze pick-up and valve. The circle he cut
out was 7/8" of an inch thick. No foam, no balsa. Just layer after layer
of fiberglass and resin.


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Maxum is Brunswick...similar to Sea Ray. They use chopped glass...not
fiberglass mat.

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm






"JR North" wrote in message
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Same with my MaXum. When I installed the windlass, the foredeck turned out
to be 1" thick. Solid glass.
JR

HK wrote:



Indeed. I admire the glossiness of my gelcoated inner hull all the time,
knowing that if there were problems or a leak between the hull/deck
joint, I'd know about it.

Last week I watched a rigger drill a hole through the bottom of a Parker
so he could install a second bronze pick-up and valve. The circle he cut
out was 7/8" of an inch thick. No foam, no balsa. Just layer after layer
of fiberglass and resin.


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Interesting article. Don't see what it has to do with my boat. Also,
didn't say anything about chop or mat...
JR

NOYB wrote:
Maxum is Brunswick...similar to Sea Ray. They use chopped glass...not
fiberglass mat.

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm






"JR North" wrote in message
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Same with my MaXum. When I installed the windlass, the foredeck turned out
to be 1" thick. Solid glass.
JR

HK wrote:



Indeed. I admire the glossiness of my gelcoated inner hull all the time,
knowing that if there were problems or a leak between the hull/deck
joint, I'd know about it.

Last week I watched a rigger drill a hole through the bottom of a Parker
so he could install a second bronze pick-up and valve. The circle he cut
out was 7/8" of an inch thick. No foam, no balsa. Just layer after layer
of fiberglass and resin.


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The article shows pictures of a Sea Ray that was smashed to pieces after a
hurricane. Maxum and Sea Rays are practically the same boat.

Here's what Pascoe said about the Sea Ray:

"What we see here are hulls made with increasingly less and less fiberglass,
and more and more of something else. Some of these boats were stunning in
the limited amout of structural fibers used.
One good example is a Sea Ray where the hull side had ONE layer of woven
roving, two thin layers of chopped strand mat, and all the rest of the
laminate was some kind of brittle putty."


FWIW: I have a Grady White, and Pascoe doesn't like those much either...but
for other reasons.






"JR North" wrote in message
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Interesting article. Don't see what it has to do with my boat. Also,
didn't say anything about chop or mat...
JR

NOYB wrote:
Maxum is Brunswick...similar to Sea Ray. They use chopped glass...not
fiberglass mat.

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm






"JR North" wrote in message
.. .

Same with my MaXum. When I installed the windlass, the foredeck turned
out to be 1" thick. Solid glass.
JR

HK wrote:



Indeed. I admire the glossiness of my gelcoated inner hull all the time,
knowing that if there were problems or a leak between the hull/deck
joint, I'd know about it.

Last week I watched a rigger drill a hole through the bottom of a Parker
so he could install a second bronze pick-up and valve. The circle he cut
out was 7/8" of an inch thick. No foam, no balsa. Just layer after layer
of fiberglass and resin.


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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:40:08 -0400, HK wrote:

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And
then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is
glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

Ranger, Triton, Bass Cat and Gambler I believe.

There is also a company - can't like of the name - Puker, Pucker,
Pansy, Pussy...something like that. :)