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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote:
http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105 Opps. That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha four stroke. Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer. Interesting all the same. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote: http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105 Opps. That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha four stroke. Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer. Interesting all the same. Well, every method of boatbuilding can encounter boo-boos, but the two piece hull method offers little but cheapness. Molding a bottom half of a boat and a top half of a boat and glueing them together with Plexus saves a lot of labor and weight, and sometimes it works well and sometimes it doesn't. Sure makes it easy to hide defects, though. I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is glassed onto the hull. Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :} |
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![]() "HK" wrote in message . .. Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote: http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105 Opps. That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha four stroke. Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer. Interesting all the same. Well, every method of boatbuilding can encounter boo-boos, but the two piece hull method offers little but cheapness. Molding a bottom half of a boat and a top half of a boat and glueing them together with Plexus saves a lot of labor and weight, and sometimes it works well and sometimes it doesn't. Sure makes it easy to hide defects, though. I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is glassed onto the hull. Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :} I dont know, but I do know of a mfr. that is so proud of their work that they don't finish it off with an inner liner. :-)) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Aug 11, 7:10 am, HK wrote:
http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105 Holy Crap! That does not look random to me, that is a design problem in my opinon. It looks like they tried to cheap out on labor by using a chopper gun (strands and resin) for structural fillets! That is just unbefrekinleavable. No mat, not cloth, no structure, Holy Crap!! They may as well have used scotch tape. I admit to little knowledge of big poly boats, but I know a little about glass and resin, more apparently than the engineers over at Nautic Star... |
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On Aug 11, 7:27 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote: http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105 Opps. That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha four stroke. Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer. Interesting all the same. Well if it's extruded then my last post is off base, but if it is, why would it tear so straight? Anyway, if it's extruded, maybe I should bin my last post. |
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:40:08 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote: http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105 Opps. That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha four stroke. Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer. Interesting all the same. Well, every method of boatbuilding can encounter boo-boos, but the two piece hull method offers little but cheapness. Molding a bottom half of a boat and a top half of a boat and glueing them together with Plexus saves a lot of labor and weight, and sometimes it works well and sometimes it doesn't. Sure makes it easy to hide defects, though. I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is glassed onto the hull. Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :} Triumph. Just click on 'bubba test' at the bottom. -- John H |
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:14:49 -0500, John H. wrote:
Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :} Triumph. Just click on 'bubba test' at the bottom. Whoops! http://tinyurl.com/yrszfd -- John H |
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Wow...I'd be PLENTY ****ed. There doesn't appear to be any mat or
chopper string in the joint at all. In fact, it looks like the stringer/hull joint was smeared with some slimy goop to cover the joint. Clearly this is a bonded hull, where some idiot forgot to, uh, bond it. Wonder about defects in the bond you can't see. It would be interesting to take it out in some 3 ft chop and see how long it takes for the engine to come off. JR HK wrote: http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105 -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth |
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JR North wrote:
Wow...I'd be PLENTY ****ed. There doesn't appear to be any mat or chopper string in the joint at all. In fact, it looks like the stringer/hull joint was smeared with some slimy goop to cover the joint. Clearly this is a bonded hull, where some idiot forgot to, uh, bond it. Wonder about defects in the bond you can't see. It would be interesting to take it out in some 3 ft chop and see how long it takes for the engine to come off. JR HK wrote: http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105 Makes you wonder what other horrors are hidden under those thin inner skins, eh? |
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