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Calif Bill August 10th 07 05:22 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 

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On Aug 9, 11:23 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:24:11 -0400, HK wrote:
Well, then, I suggest you don't buy one.


Does it have full flotation?

There was an incident on Long Island Sound within the last year or two
where a boat with a similar transom got caught stern-to to a breaking
wave.

It glubbed in less than a minute due to lack of flotation.


It has to float or they would not conform to USCG regs and I can not
see a manufacturer that big getting away with it any other way.
However, this particular boat being over 20 feet, it does not need to
float level. Personally, I would be surprised if in a configuration
such as this, they did not design it to float level anyway.


Over 21' does not require flotation. My 21' boat is foamed under the floor,
but the builder does not foam the new ones. He stated, that with an inboard
engine, the only part of the boat above water will be the nose. So saves
the weight of foam and the mess if you need to get under the floor.



HK August 10th 07 10:37 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:24:11 -0400, HK wrote:

Well, then, I suggest you don't buy one.


Does it have full flotation?

There was an incident on Long Island Sound within the last year or two
where a boat with a similar transom got caught stern-to to a breaking
wave.

It glubbed in less than a minute due to lack of flotation.



What? A boat *sank* because of wave action? This must have been the
first time ever, right? Gee, what else causes boats to sink? Do you have
a list?

Short Wave Sportfishing August 10th 07 11:15 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:22:37 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Aug 9, 11:23 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:24:11 -0400, HK wrote:
Well, then, I suggest you don't buy one.

Does it have full flotation?

There was an incident on Long Island Sound within the last year or two
where a boat with a similar transom got caught stern-to to a breaking
wave.

It glubbed in less than a minute due to lack of flotation.


It has to float or they would not conform to USCG regs and I can not
see a manufacturer that big getting away with it any other way.
However, this particular boat being over 20 feet, it does not need to
float level. Personally, I would be surprised if in a configuration
such as this, they did not design it to float level anyway.


Over 21' does not require flotation. My 21' boat is foamed under the floor,
but the builder does not foam the new ones. He stated, that with an inboard
engine, the only part of the boat above water will be the nose. So saves
the weight of foam and the mess if you need to get under the floor.


What year was your boat made?

HK August 10th 07 11:34 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:24:11 -0400, HK wrote:

Well, then, I suggest you don't buy one.


Does it have full flotation?

There was an incident on Long Island Sound within the last year or two
where a boat with a similar transom got caught stern-to to a breaking
wave.

It glubbed in less than a minute due to lack of flotation.




All Parkers are foam-filled under the deck.
As they are linerless boats, there's no foam in the hullsides. But
there's enough foam injected to keep the boat afloat.

Does your Grand Banks have full floatation? I mean, if you strike a log
or a reef and put a nice-sized hole in that hull, is there enough
flotation in the boat so that it stays afloat? How about if you broach
and take a few tons of water over the side, or if you suffer a
knockdown? Got enough flotation built into that boat to keep it floating
level and safe until help arrives?

[email protected] August 10th 07 12:46 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Aug 10, 12:22 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Aug 9, 11:23 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:24:11 -0400, HK wrote:
Well, then, I suggest you don't buy one.


Does it have full flotation?


There was an incident on Long Island Sound within the last year or two
where a boat with a similar transom got caught stern-to to a breaking
wave.


It glubbed in less than a minute due to lack of flotation.


It has to float or they would not conform to USCG regs and I can not
see a manufacturer that big getting away with it any other way.
However, this particular boat being over 20 feet, it does not need to
float level. Personally, I would be surprised if in a configuration
such as this, they did not design it to float level anyway.


Over 21' does not require flotation. My 21' boat is foamed under the floor,
but the builder does not foam the new ones. He stated, that with an inboard
engine, the only part of the boat above water will be the nose. So saves
the weight of foam and the mess if you need to get under the floor.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Floating with the nose up, is floating according to the CG. Anyway,
under 20 feet it has to float level, over 20 not.


Short Wave Sportfishing August 10th 07 01:16 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:34:25 -0400, HK wrote:

All Parkers are foam-filled under the deck.
As they are linerless boats, there's no foam in the hullsides. But
there's enough foam injected to keep the boat afloat.


Under 20 feet, the Coast Guard requires that they must be rated for
passenger, gear and maximum horsepower capacity limits. They are also
required to have built-in flotation. Boats over 20 feet long are not
subject to standards for passenger, gear and maximum horsepower and
have no flotation requirements.

[email protected] August 10th 07 01:21 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Aug 10, 8:16 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:34:25 -0400, HK wrote:
All Parkers are foam-filled under the deck.
As they are linerless boats, there's no foam in the hullsides. But
there's enough foam injected to keep the boat afloat.


Under 20 feet, the Coast Guard requires that they must be rated for
passenger, gear and maximum horsepower capacity limits. They are also
required to have built-in flotation. Boats over 20 feet long are not
subject to standards for passenger, gear and maximum horsepower and
have no flotation requirements.


Buying a boat withougt flotation, is like buying an aeroplane with no
wings. Commercial vessel maybe, but a passenger vessel with no
flotation, if you sink, you deserve it.


HK August 10th 07 01:22 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:34:25 -0400, HK wrote:

All Parkers are foam-filled under the deck.
As they are linerless boats, there's no foam in the hullsides. But
there's enough foam injected to keep the boat afloat.


Under 20 feet, the Coast Guard requires that they must be rated for
passenger, gear and maximum horsepower capacity limits. They are also
required to have built-in flotation. Boats over 20 feet long are not
subject to standards for passenger, gear and maximum horsepower and
have no flotation requirements.


So?


HK August 10th 07 01:23 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:16 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:34:25 -0400, HK wrote:
All Parkers are foam-filled under the deck.
As they are linerless boats, there's no foam in the hullsides. But
there's enough foam injected to keep the boat afloat.

Under 20 feet, the Coast Guard requires that they must be rated for
passenger, gear and maximum horsepower capacity limits. They are also
required to have built-in flotation. Boats over 20 feet long are not
subject to standards for passenger, gear and maximum horsepower and
have no flotation requirements.


Buying a boat withougt flotation, is like buying an aeroplane with no
wings. Commercial vessel maybe, but a passenger vessel with no
flotation, if you sink, you deserve it.



Ask Wayne B. about the amount of flotation in his trawler.

Eisboch August 10th 07 01:25 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 

"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:16 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:34:25 -0400, HK wrote:
All Parkers are foam-filled under the deck.
As they are linerless boats, there's no foam in the hullsides. But
there's enough foam injected to keep the boat afloat.
Under 20 feet, the Coast Guard requires that they must be rated for
passenger, gear and maximum horsepower capacity limits. They are also
required to have built-in flotation. Boats over 20 feet long are not
subject to standards for passenger, gear and maximum horsepower and
have no flotation requirements.


Buying a boat withougt flotation, is like buying an aeroplane with no
wings. Commercial vessel maybe, but a passenger vessel with no
flotation, if you sink, you deserve it.



Ask Wayne B. about the amount of flotation in his trawler.


Teak floats.

Eisboch




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