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Reginald P. Smithers III August 9th 07 08:01 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Calif Bill wrote:
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Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg
I like these boats but with this model you can't keep your feet dry.
Waves are always coming over the transom.
Interesting. I've owned three recent vintage outboard boats, all smaller
than the Parker, and with 20" instead of 25" transoms. I used them
mostly in the Atlantic Ocean off the Florida coast and I recall one time
when I got a little wave action in over the transom. Of course, I always
made an effort to keep waves from breaking against the stern.

I doubt it will be an issue on the new ride.
Maybe you haven't seen your new boat in the water-

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=22

Doesn't take more than a 10" wave from behind to come over the transom

Damn, from that photo it does look like it is completely open around the
engine mount. I have always seen the engine cut out enclosed so it is not
open to the cabin. Hopefully that photo is not representative of the way
it really is, because if this is the way it really is, one could expect to
have wet feet from any kind of following sea.


Odd thing is that is an East Coast design. Rare to see a transom cutout in
the west. And when the transom is cut out, there are splash boards to stop
waves coming in the back.



Bill,
All the boats I have seen on the east coast has a engine well that is
enclosed with large scuppers to drain the water out of the engine well,
not open to the main cabin. I checked Grady-White's and they have an
enclosed engine well. Heck, from memory even Bayliner's Trophy series
did not have an open engine cut out like that. Oh well, hopefully they
have a way to block that opening or it will be a very wet boat.

HK August 9th 07 08:07 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
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Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg
I like these boats but with this model you can't keep your feet dry.
Waves are always coming over the transom.


Interesting. I've owned three recent vintage outboard boats, all smaller
than the Parker, and with 20" instead of 25" transoms. I used them mostly
in the Atlantic Ocean off the Florida coast and I recall one time when I
got a little wave action in over the transom. Of course, I always made an
effort to keep waves from breaking against the stern.

I doubt it will be an issue on the new ride.


Maybe you haven't seen your new boat in the water-

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=22

Doesn't take more than a 10" wave from behind to come over the transom



Sorry, I'm not concerned. Nice try, though.

[email protected] August 9th 07 08:07 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Aug 9, 6:36 am, HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/DSC_02302...




Harry, is this an optical illusion? Is that guy maybe sitting in the
splash well?

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=22

I have never seen a boat that size without a splash well.


HK August 9th 07 08:10 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:39:40 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:36:54 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg

!! You didn't go for the aluminum trailer ??

Of course I did. But I won't be able to pick it up in Norfolk until
Saturday or Monday. The trailer you see is one of the dealer's yard
trailers. When new boats come in, they have to be stashed on something.
Tri-State uses cradles or trailers to prop up its new boats.


Are you getting yours from S&S? I drove to Norfolk to pick up mine....



Yup. Wanna meet me for lunch end of next week? I'm supposed to pick it
up either Saturday the 18th or Monday. Maybe we could pick up a charter
in Virginia Beach. I believe I'll be kinda footloose the end of next
week with my wife visiting her maternal grandma in western North Carolina.

HK August 9th 07 08:12 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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rom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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rom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg
I like these boats but with this model you can't keep your feet dry.
Waves are always coming over the transom.
Interesting. I've owned three recent vintage outboard boats, all smaller
than the Parker, and with 20" instead of 25" transoms. I used them
mostly in the Atlantic Ocean off the Florida coast and I recall one time
when I got a little wave action in over the transom. Of course, I always
made an effort to keep waves from breaking against the stern.

I doubt it will be an issue on the new ride.
Maybe you haven't seen your new boat in the water-

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=22

Doesn't take more than a 10" wave from behind to come over the transom

Damn, from that photo it does look like it is completely open around the
engine mount. I have always seen the engine cut out enclosed so it is not
open to the cabin. Hopefully that photo is not representative of the way
it really is, because if this is the way it really is, one could expect to
have wet feet from any kind of following sea.


Odd thing is that is an East Coast design. Rare to see a transom cutout in
the west. And when the transom is cut out, there are splash boards to stop
waves coming in the back.




You gotta love it when a horse's ass like Reggie Retardo comments about
any aspect of salt water boating.

HK August 9th 07 08:23 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
wrote:
On Aug 9, 6:36 am, HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/DSC_02302...



Harry, is this an optical illusion? Is that guy maybe sitting in the
splash well?

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=22

I have never seen a boat that size without a splash well.



A. This is a 25", not a 20" transom.
B. There is a splashguard available that I've seen on a couple of the
21-footers, most recently on the 2120 pilothouse that shares the same
hull. I see no need for it.
C. I began boating 50 years ago on Long Island Sound, which can get
plenty rough. My outboard boats in those days have completely open 15"
transoms.
D. In the photo on the Parker site, the boat is equipped with a 200 hp
engine, one that weighs more than 100 pounds more than the one I have.
Also, there are two lardbutt guys sitting on the gunnels near the stern,
and another guy more amidships.
E. There are dozens of boats that size and even larger with open transoms.
F. I owned three SeaPros with 20" transoms and only one of them had a
splashwell. Only once did I take any water over the transom out in the
Atlantic Ocean.

It's not an issue, except maybe to inexperienced ocean boaters.


HK August 9th 07 08:39 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:39:40 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:36:54 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg


!! You didn't go for the aluminum trailer ??

Of course I did. But I won't be able to pick it up in Norfolk until
Saturday or Monday. The trailer you see is one of the dealer's yard
trailers. When new boats come in, they have to be stashed on
something. Tri-State uses cradles or trailers to prop up its new boats.


Are you getting yours from S&S? I drove to Norfolk to pick up mine....



Yup. Wanna meet me for lunch end of next week? I'm supposed to pick it
up either Saturday the 18th or Monday. Maybe we could pick up a charter
in Virginia Beach. I believe I'll be kinda footloose the end of next
week with my wife visiting her maternal grandma in western North Carolina.



That would be Saturday the 18th or the following Monday.

Reginald P. Smithers III August 9th 07 08:42 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 9, 6:36 am, HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/DSC_02302...



Harry, is this an optical illusion? Is that guy maybe sitting in the
splash well?

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=22

I have never seen a boat that size without a splash well.



A. This is a 25", not a 20" transom.
B. There is a splashguard available that I've seen on a couple of the
21-footers, most recently on the 2120 pilothouse that shares the same
hull. I see no need for it.
C. I began boating 50 years ago on Long Island Sound, which can get
plenty rough. My outboard boats in those days have completely open 15"
transoms.
D. In the photo on the Parker site, the boat is equipped with a 200 hp
engine, one that weighs more than 100 pounds more than the one I have.
Also, there are two lardbutt guys sitting on the gunnels near the stern,
and another guy more amidships.
E. There are dozens of boats that size and even larger with open transoms.
F. I owned three SeaPros with 20" transoms and only one of them had a
splashwell. Only once did I take any water over the transom out in the
Atlantic Ocean.

It's not an issue, except maybe to inexperienced ocean boaters.


It looks like SeaPro has changed their design, they now have an
engine/splash well on their boats.

I looked at Boston Whaler, SeaPro, Grady White, Mako, Key West, Blue
Fin, and Triton who all include engine/splashwell so I may not know much
about sal****er boats, but i guess they people don't know much either.

rom August 9th 07 08:42 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 9, 6:36 am, HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/DSC_02302...




Harry, is this an optical illusion? Is that guy maybe sitting in the
splash well?

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=22

I have never seen a boat that size without a splash well.


It's not an illusion, this boat is extremely wet in anything but light chop.
I was in one with one other person and we continually had waves breaking
over the transom while drift fishing in 2' waves.


Look at Harry's own pic- you can see how large and deep the cutout is.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg




Reginald P. Smithers III August 9th 07 08:53 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
rom wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 9, 6:36 am, HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/DSC_02302...



Harry, is this an optical illusion? Is that guy maybe sitting in the
splash well?

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=22

I have never seen a boat that size without a splash well.


It's not an illusion, this boat is extremely wet in anything but light chop.
I was in one with one other person and we continually had waves breaking
over the transom while drift fishing in 2' waves.


Look at Harry's own pic- you can see how large and deep the cutout is.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg



Ron,

Was your buddy able to rig up a splash board to reduce the amount of
water coming in over the transom? I know I would be worried about
correcting my wet feet problem, instead of changing my NAV lights
because i didn't like the way they looked.

It really wouldn't be a big deal in the summer, but Harry doesn't like
to fish in the summer, so the real problem would be in Fall and early
spring. It could make for a very cold wet day of fishing.


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