On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:54:16 -0000,
wrote:

On Aug 1, 9:38 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

True, but the Captain is still a dumbass and shouldn't be bragging
about his clearly inferior "rescue" skill.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Is the captain required to file any kind of incident reprot with the
athourities?

Yes - it was an overboard and the appropriate MAYDAY/Overboard
broadcast call should have been made with course and bearing - in
particular because he did not know the overboard situation existed
until well after the incident occured. At that point, he should have
initiated his rescue turn (pick the technique - Williamson, Anderson,
Scharnow or Quick although Quick in this instance wouldn't be the
best) and begun the search.

Once the incident was closed, it would have been investigated by the
appropriate maritime agency.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:05:27 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:



Amazing wasn't it?

Like I said, I wouldn't be bragging on my "madd rezque skillzz" if I
were the Captain.

I'm glad Harry posted that. I needed something to **** me off today
just to get motivated. I'm overdue for my chemo treatment and I'm
just not motivated. :)

Hot summer here. Sure looks like Al Gore has it spot on.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:05:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:13:46 -0400, HK wrote:

http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...heFastCast.flv

Can you count the number of things he did wrong in that "rescue"?

Not to mention how the situation developed?

I'm got up to eleven when I quit counting.

I wouldn't be broadcasting my stupidity that's for sure.

Dumbass.

My favorite was when he powered up again with the groggy rescuee
sitting on the transom. These guys weren't too sharp.
Wonder what shape the beer cooler was in.

--Vic

I would not call the person rescued groggy........just a dumbass like the
captain was. Who in their right mind sits on the transom gunwale after just
falling in? Who in their right mind guns the boat while a person in sitting
on the gunwale?

A couple of idiots.

On Aug 1, 10:24 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:54:16 -0000,
wrote:

On Aug 1, 9:38 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

True, but the Captain is still a dumbass and shouldn't be bragging
about his clearly inferior "rescue" skill.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Is the captain required to file any kind of incident reprot with the
athourities?

Yes - it was an overboard and the appropriate MAYDAY/Overboard
broadcast call should have been made with course and bearing - in
particular because he did not know the overboard situation existed
until well after the incident occured. At that point, he should have
initiated his rescue turn (pick the technique - Williamson, Anderson,
Scharnow or Quick although Quick in this instance wouldn't be the
best) and begun the search.

Once the incident was closed, it would have been investigated by the
appropriate maritime agency.

So, assuming they did not report this, have they broken any laws?
Could there be criminal charges or just citations and such?

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On Aug 1, 10:24 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:54:16 -0000,
wrote:

On Aug 1, 9:38 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

True, but the Captain is still a dumbass and shouldn't be bragging
about his clearly inferior "rescue" skill.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Is the captain required to file any kind of incident reprot with the
athourities?

Yes - it was an overboard and the appropriate MAYDAY/Overboard
broadcast call should have been made with course and bearing - in
particular because he did not know the overboard situation existed
until well after the incident occured. At that point, he should have
initiated his rescue turn (pick the technique - Williamson, Anderson,
Scharnow or Quick although Quick in this instance wouldn't be the
best) and begun the search.

Once the incident was closed, it would have been investigated by the
appropriate maritime agency.

So, assuming they did not report this, have they broken any laws?
Could there be criminal charges or just citations and such?


Probably some such. Maybe a lot.

On Aug 1, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


So, assuming they did not report this, have they broken any laws?
Could there be criminal charges or just citations and such?

Probably some such. Maybe a lot.- -

- Show quoted text -

That is only if the CG can board their ship Wadda' ya' think, can
they Joe? Ol' Buddy?

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:51:01 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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An Offshore Fishing Rescue


Sorry, but without an overly dramatized magazine cover story illustration,
done in garish colors, this story leaves me unimpressed. The illustration
should include all the usual outdoorsy stuff, like a heroic dog, lacerated
arms, torn shirts, etc., so the net effect is Norman Rockwell on acid.




Maybe someone here can "Chuck it up," with purple prose and the
requisite nods to corporate sponsors.


cheap
--
John H

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:02:22 -0000,
wrote:

On Aug 1, 10:24 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:54:16 -0000,
wrote:

On Aug 1, 9:38 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

True, but the Captain is still a dumbass and shouldn't be bragging
about his clearly inferior "rescue" skill.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Is the captain required to file any kind of incident reprot with the
athourities?

Yes - it was an overboard and the appropriate MAYDAY/Overboard
broadcast call should have been made with course and bearing - in
particular because he did not know the overboard situation existed
until well after the incident occured. At that point, he should have
initiated his rescue turn (pick the technique - Williamson, Anderson,
Scharnow or Quick although Quick in this instance wouldn't be the
best) and begun the search.

Once the incident was closed, it would have been investigated by the
appropriate maritime agency.

So, assuming they did not report this, have they broken any laws?
Could there be criminal charges or just citations and such?

Good question.

There was an emergency - MOB is a bonefide emergency and all
emergencies should be declared.

However, unless the MOB himself doesn't make an issue out of it, then
probably not.

To further complicate the issue, when the MOB situation was
discovered, it clearly took place long before anybody noticed. Which
means that if the Captain didn't report it when he discovered it and
the MOB drowned or they couldn't find him, his ass was grass legally.
It was anyway, but it really would have been bad.

So in this case, and in answer to your question, no - unless the MOB
wished to make an issue out of it.

It was bad seamanship all the way around.

I had something happen to me a few years ago that kind of proves the
point. I was fishing with a Charter Captain in the St. Lawrence
Seaway when I slipped on a soft spot on his deck and went ass over tea
kettle into the St. Lawrence right above Alexandria Bay near the
Canadian side of the Seaway. I couldn't get into the boat because the
Captain's equipment was inadequate - the ancient boarding ladder he
had broke apart when he got it out in an attempt to get me aboard. He
was reluctant to call the USCG and wanted to tow me to shallow area in
the Seaway to get me onboard even though there were CG patrol boats in
the immediate area.

He finally had to make the call, but he only did it when he realised
that hypothermia was setting in and the situation was getting out of
control.

So you never know.

On Aug 1, 5:51?am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
An Offshore Fishing Rescue

Sorry, but without an overly dramatized magazine cover story illustration,
done in garish colors, this story leaves me unimpressed. The illustration
should include all the usual outdoorsy stuff, like a heroic dog, lacerated
arms, torn shirts, etc., so the net effect is Norman Rockwell on acid.

Maybe someone here can "Chuck it up," with purple prose and the
requisite nods to corporate sponsors.

Screw you, Harry.

I think the tale would be better off "Kraused". In that version, the
MOB is somehow mysterously rescued by the shoreboat launched from a
mythical Hatteras -an imaginary lobster boat. The victim has
technically expired, but the skipper of the lobster boat is married to
a highly skilled physician (much younger and far sexier than most
women to whom guys his age are married) and she happens to be aboard..
In the best seafaring tradition of his fabled father, (who soloed
across the Atlantic in a little dinghy powered by a Seagull outboard
and arrived to a hero's reception at the New York City Yacht Club),
the brave skipper plows fearlessly through the six-inch "bathing suit
weather" waves while his wife works her medical magic on the victim.
The MOB revives, and as soon as he is able to see clearly he exclaims
"Harry? Harry Krause? Remember me? We were classmates with GWB at
Yale! Skull and Bones, Dude, Skull and Bones!"

Yeah, when it comes to credibility, Harry, you're in a class of your
own.
When I have to resort to lying to try to make my life or some story
sound interesting, I'll choose not to write instead. You might
consider experimenting with the same standard, I think it would serve
you well.

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Aug 1, 5:51?am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
An Offshore Fishing Rescue
Sorry, but without an overly dramatized magazine cover story illustration,
done in garish colors, this story leaves me unimpressed. The illustration
should include all the usual outdoorsy stuff, like a heroic dog, lacerated
arms, torn shirts, etc., so the net effect is Norman Rockwell on acid.


Maybe someone here can "Chuck it up," with purple prose and the
requisite nods to corporate sponsors.

Screw you, Harry.

I think the tale would be better off "Kraused". In that version, the
MOB is somehow mysterously rescued by the shoreboat launched from a
mythical Hatteras -an imaginary lobster boat. The victim has
technically expired, but the skipper of the lobster boat is married to
a highly skilled physician (much younger and far sexier than most
women to whom guys his age are married) and she happens to be aboard..
In the best seafaring tradition of his fabled father, (who soloed
across the Atlantic in a little dinghy powered by a Seagull outboard
and arrived to a hero's reception at the New York City Yacht Club),
the brave skipper plows fearlessly through the six-i




Poor old Chuck. He's so vain, he thought that post was about him...