Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jul 22, 5:58?am, HK wrote:
Midlant wrote:
http://www.hughsaint.com/
Pretty boats. While there are some really attractive fiberglass boats
being built these days, some are just plain eyesores. These "old school"
wood boats all have classic lines.

"Old School" wood boats?

Harry, these are cold molded (hardly old school) and overlaid with
Dynel roving cloth. There is some mahogany in the deck planks and in
the frames:

Quote:


We build entirely in the WEST (Wood Epoxy Saturation Technique) method
for logevity and low upkeep. Framework and outer planking are of the
finest pattern grade Honduras mahogany. Inner planking is African
(Okoume) mahogany imported from France. Construction time averages
twelve months for runabouts and 1 1/2 to 2 years for larger boats. All
painted surfaces are sheathed with Dynel cloth, which is 6 times more
abrasive-resistent than fiberglass.

End Quote.

But it's nice to see that you're no longer sensitive to any mention of
a boat manufacturer or product for sale. (especially four year old
Parkers with 115 hours on the meter) :-)



By "old school," I was referring to the look, not to the method of
manufacture. Oh...while the wood molding process is more modern, there's
also nothing new about molding mahogany into beautiful boats. In the
1950s, Wolverine and Yellow Jacket manufactured some damned tasty boats
with molded mahogany.

My objection to commercialization here never had a thing to do with
individuals selling their boats, or even businesses hawking their
product or services, and everything to do with the sort of boat
manufacturer pimping you do here.

As for my pattern of use, it's not particularly relevant. Where I keep
my boat, I can get to good fishing spots in 15 minutes to an hour of
running the engine. So, it's easy to spend the entire day fishing and
not have the engine on for more than hour on some trips. I can cross
Chesapeake Bay in 15-20 minutes and drift fish for flounder all day long
without starting the engine up for the return home. You can do these
sorts of things when your boat cruises easily at 25-30 mph.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:13:26 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jul 22, 5:58?am, HK wrote:
Midlant wrote:
http://www.hughsaint.com/
Pretty boats. While there are some really attractive fiberglass boats
being built these days, some are just plain eyesores. These "old school"
wood boats all have classic lines.

"Old School" wood boats?

Harry, these are cold molded (hardly old school) and overlaid with
Dynel roving cloth. There is some mahogany in the deck planks and in
the frames:

Quote:


We build entirely in the WEST (Wood Epoxy Saturation Technique) method
for logevity and low upkeep. Framework and outer planking are of the
finest pattern grade Honduras mahogany. Inner planking is African
(Okoume) mahogany imported from France. Construction time averages
twelve months for runabouts and 1 1/2 to 2 years for larger boats. All
painted surfaces are sheathed with Dynel cloth, which is 6 times more
abrasive-resistent than fiberglass.

End Quote.

But it's nice to see that you're no longer sensitive to any mention of
a boat manufacturer or product for sale. (especially four year old
Parkers with 115 hours on the meter) :-)



By "old school," I was referring to the look, not to the method of
manufacture. Oh...while the wood molding process is more modern, there's
also nothing new about molding mahogany into beautiful boats. In the
1950s, Wolverine and Yellow Jacket manufactured some damned tasty boats
with molded mahogany.

My objection to commercialization here never had a thing to do with
individuals selling their boats, or even businesses hawking their
product or services, and everything to do with the sort of boat
manufacturer pimping you do here.

As for my pattern of use, it's not particularly relevant. Where I keep
my boat, I can get to good fishing spots in 15 minutes to an hour of
running the engine. So, it's easy to spend the entire day fishing and
not have the engine on for more than hour on some trips. I can cross
Chesapeake Bay in 15-20 minutes and drift fish for flounder all day long
without starting the engine up for the return home. You can do these
sorts of things when your boat cruises easily at 25-30 mph.

Note that this 'drift fishing' must be done on a totally windless day.
Either that or the Yo Ho is aground!
--
John H

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:13:26 -0400, HK wrote:

As for my pattern of use, it's not particularly relevant. Where I keep
my boat, I can get to good fishing spots in 15 minutes to an hour of
running the engine. So, it's easy to spend the entire day fishing and
not have the engine on for more than hour on some trips. I can cross
Chesapeake Bay in 15-20 minutes and drift fish for flounder all day long
without starting the engine up for the return home. You can do these
sorts of things when your boat cruises easily at 25-30 mph.

Maybe so but 115 hours in 4 years is very light usage by anyone's
definition.

You need to get out more.

We've run 200 hours in the last 5 weeks.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:13:26 -0400, HK wrote:

As for my pattern of use, it's not particularly relevant. Where I keep
my boat, I can get to good fishing spots in 15 minutes to an hour of
running the engine. So, it's easy to spend the entire day fishing and
not have the engine on for more than hour on some trips. I can cross
Chesapeake Bay in 15-20 minutes and drift fish for flounder all day long
without starting the engine up for the return home. You can do these
sorts of things when your boat cruises easily at 25-30 mph.

Maybe so but 115 hours in 4 years is very light usage by anyone's
definition.

You need to get out more.

We've run 200 hours in the last 5 weeks.


Yeah, well, what takes you 200 hours I probably can do in two on a
commercial flight. I like being there, not getting there.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:24:37 -0400, HK wrote:

Yeah, well, what takes you 200 hours I probably can do in two on a
commercial flight. I like being there, not getting there.

Not unless you're supersonic.

And try landing your commercial flight here in Hadley Harbor. The
Forbes family will *not* be amused.

:-)

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:24:37 -0400, HK wrote:

Yeah, well, what takes you 200 hours I probably can do in two on a
commercial flight. I like being there, not getting there.

Not unless you're supersonic.

And try landing your commercial flight here in Hadley Harbor. The
Forbes family will *not* be amused.

:-)


Well, of course...near the top of my list is what "the Forbes family"
cares about, eh? Why, I care almost as much about "the Forbes family"
as I do about Dick Cheney.

HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:13:26 -0400, HK wrote:

As for my pattern of use, it's not particularly relevant. Where I
keep my boat, I can get to good fishing spots in 15 minutes to an
hour of running the engine. So, it's easy to spend the entire day
fishing and not have the engine on for more than hour on some trips.
I can cross Chesapeake Bay in 15-20 minutes and drift fish for
flounder all day long without starting the engine up for the return
home. You can do these sorts of things when your boat cruises easily
at 25-30 mph.

Maybe so but 115 hours in 4 years is very light usage by anyone's
definition.

You need to get out more.

We've run 200 hours in the last 5 weeks.


Yeah, well, what takes you 200 hours I probably can do in two on a
commercial flight. I like being there, not getting there.

This was really posted by the guy who was contemplating (due to his
narcissism no doubt) repowering the Parker with a 300HP Yamaha! What
next, Harry?

There's nothing really molded about them. My brother is one of the
handful of men Hugh has building them. It's hand work after hand work in
a hot shop in southern Florida.
John

On Jul 22, 8:16 pm, "Midlant" wrote:
There's nothing really molded about them. My brother is one of the
handful of men Hugh has building them. It's hand work after hand work in
a hot shop in southern Florida.
John

Soooo, this is really a spam for your brothers business eh! OK, still
don't like the lines but what do I know

On Jul 22, 7:53?pm, wrote:
On Jul 22, 8:16 pm, "Midlant" wrote:

There's nothing really molded about them. My brother is one of the
handful of men Hugh has building them. It's hand work after hand work in
a hot shop in southern Florida.
John

Soooo, this is really a spam for your brothers business eh! OK, still
don't like the lines but what do I know

"Cold molding" is a term used to describe a construction process where
wood strips or sections are used to create the shape of the hull and
are bonded together with resin. See the mfgr's statement about
manufacturing technique......

Been popular with one-off's for a long period of time. Creating the
molds is a huge expense in traditional FRP construction, to the point
where a few boats normally need to be sold before enough of the mold
cost is amortized to begin breaking even. With cold molding, there is
no mold per se. In some cases, the wooden strips are simply applied
directly to
the frames- almost like planking a traditional wooden boat.