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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:12:52 -0400, HK wrote:
Don White wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... snip... The unions were good to me. Except for those 2 pricks I never had problems with management either. *Guys like them are the reason there's unions*. They'll lie and steal you blind, and get you killed for a buck. snip --Vic Bingo! If everyone was treated fairly & with respect why would they willingly pay those union dues year after year. (not counting a few cases where a particular union may hold a business hostage to enrich it's members above their fair value) Stop living in the 1920s Don. Unions cause mediocrity...........everyone receives the same pay increase, despite their abilities and contributions. The same 'minimal' increase. Nothing stops a corp from rewarding exceptional workers. That's right. The union rate in most contracts is the minimal rate. There is nothing to prevent an employer from rewarding exceptional workers more expansively. Unfortunately, the basic union rate is already excessive in most cases. The cost of employment of American union workers has initiated the move to outsourcing. It certainly is sinking Chrysler and the rest of the American auto industry, huh? My ex-wife tells the opposite stories concerning unions. One of union corruption and greed. Of her, and her fellow UAW workers, of being able to purposefully shut down GM production lines, with malice, and then being protected by their union goobs and keeping their jobs. Just for fun. Unions have reaped what they have sown. It used to take hard work, a college education, and a serious work ethic to have a Cadillac and a big screen TV. Now every High School dropout that gets a union job thinks they are entitled. That's why the move to Indian and China. That's why the unions are getting their butts kicked. They need to wise up. They are ruining my country. |
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Jack Goff wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:12:52 -0400, HK wrote: Don White wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... snip... The unions were good to me. Except for those 2 pricks I never had problems with management either. *Guys like them are the reason there's unions*. They'll lie and steal you blind, and get you killed for a buck. snip --Vic Bingo! If everyone was treated fairly & with respect why would they willingly pay those union dues year after year. (not counting a few cases where a particular union may hold a business hostage to enrich it's members above their fair value) Stop living in the 1920s Don. Unions cause mediocrity...........everyone receives the same pay increase, despite their abilities and contributions. The same 'minimal' increase. Nothing stops a corp from rewarding exceptional workers. That's right. The union rate in most contracts is the minimal rate. There is nothing to prevent an employer from rewarding exceptional workers more expansively. Unfortunately, the basic union rate is already excessive in most cases. The cost of employment of American union workers has initiated the move to outsourcing. It certainly is sinking Chrysler and the rest of the American auto industry, huh? Sorry, Jackoff, but bad management and pursuit of short-term profit is what sunk American manufacturing, that and the cost of providing health care insurance to workers, which U.S. car manufacturers pay for but Japanese car manufacturers do not. |
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:00:40 -0400, HK wrote:
Jack Goff wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:12:52 -0400, HK wrote: Don White wrote: "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... snip... The unions were good to me. Except for those 2 pricks I never had problems with management either. *Guys like them are the reason there's unions*. They'll lie and steal you blind, and get you killed for a buck. snip --Vic Bingo! If everyone was treated fairly & with respect why would they willingly pay those union dues year after year. (not counting a few cases where a particular union may hold a business hostage to enrich it's members above their fair value) Stop living in the 1920s Don. Unions cause mediocrity...........everyone receives the same pay increase, despite their abilities and contributions. The same 'minimal' increase. Nothing stops a corp from rewarding exceptional workers. That's right. The union rate in most contracts is the minimal rate. There is nothing to prevent an employer from rewarding exceptional workers more expansively. Unfortunately, the basic union rate is already excessive in most cases. The cost of employment of American union workers has initiated the move to outsourcing. It certainly is sinking Chrysler and the rest of the American auto industry, huh? Sorry, Jackoff, but bad management and pursuit of short-term profit is what sunk American manufacturing, that and the cost of providing health care insurance to workers, which U.S. car manufacturers pay for but Japanese car manufacturers do not. Those are factors, but you're ignoring the excessive pay rates and benefits, along with poor worker productivity, which accompanies UAW employment. That's not the employer's fault. |
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