On Jul 11, 7:20?pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On Jul 11, 6:17?pm, jps wrote:
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CAN YOU MULES GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO TALK ABOUT THE MORON'S YOU WONT
VOTE OUT OF OFFICE...............................

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Intelligence report: Al-Qaida has regained strength
By Katherine Shrader and Matthew Lee, Associated Press

Intelligence report: Al-Qaida has regained strength

WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded al-Qaida has
rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since just before
the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, The Associated Press has learned.
The conclusion suggests that the group that launched the most
devastating terror attack on the United States has been able to regroup
along the Afghan-Pakistani border despite nearly six years of bombings,
war and other tactics aimed at crippling it.

Still, numerous government officials say they know of no specific,
credible threat of a new attack on U.S. soil.

A counterterrorism official familiar with a five-page summary of the new
government threat assessment called it a stark appraisal to be discussed
at the White House on Thursday as part of a broader meeting on an
upcoming National Intelligence Estimate.

The official and others spoke on condition of anonymity because the
secret report remains classified.

Counterterrorism analysts produced the document, titled "Al-Qaida better
positioned to strike the West." The document focuses on the terror
group's safe haven in Pakistan and makes a range of observations about
the threat posed to the United States and its allies, officials said.

Al-Qaida is "considerably operationally stronger than a year ago" and
has "regrouped to an extent not seen since 2001," the official said,
paraphrasing the report's conclusions. "They are showing greater and
greater ability to plan attacks in Europe and the United States."

The group also has created "the most robust training program since 2001,
with an interest in using European operatives," the official quoted the
report as saying.

At the same time, this official said, the report speaks of "significant
gaps in intelligence" so U.S. authorities may be ignorant of potential
or planned attacks.

John Kringen, who heads the CIA's analysis directorate, echoed the
concerns about al-Qaida's resurgence during testimony and conversations
with reporters at a House Armed Services Committee hearing on Wednesday.

"They seem to be fairly well settled into the safe haven and the
ungoverned spaces of Pakistan," Kringen testified. "We see more
training. We see more money. We see more communications. We see that
activity rising."

The threat assessment comes as the 16 U.S. intelligence agencies prepare
a National Intelligence Estimate focusing on threats to the United
States. A senior intelligence official, who spoke on condition of
anonymity while the high-level analysis was being finalized, said the
document has been in the works for roughly two years.

Kringen and aides to National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell would
not comment on the details of that analysis. "Preparation of the
estimate is not a response to any specific threat," McConnell's
spokesman Ross Feinstein said, adding that it would be ready for
distribution this summer.

Counterterrorism officials have been increasingly concerned about al-
Qaida's recent operations. This week, Homeland Security Secretary
Michael Chertoff said he had a "gut feeling" that the United States
faced a heightened risk of attack this summer.

Kringen said he wouldn't attach a summer time frame to the concern. In
studying the threat, he said he begins with the premise that al-Qaida
would consider attacking the U.S. a "home run hit" and that the easiest
way to get into the United States would be through Europe.

The new threat assessment puts particular focus on Pakistan, as did
Kringen.

"Sooner or later you have to quit permitting them to have a safe haven"
along the Afghan-Pakistani border, he told the House committee. "At the
end of the day, when we have had success, it is when you've been able to
get them worried about who was informing on them, get them worried about
who was coming after them."

Several European countries - among them Britain, Denmark, Germany and
the Netherlands - are also highlighted in the threat assessment partly
because they have arrangements with the Pakistani government that allow
their citizens easier access to Pakistan than others, according to the
counterterrorism official.

Are you really this determined to steer the NG back into the toilet?

ALL the folks initiating and participating in political discussions here,
including you Chuck, are equally guilty.

Ignore the trolls and it will stop. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

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Asking, politely, that the offenders stop the political trolling is
not the same as participating in it. Kindly identify a single partisan
or political statement I have made in this thread and I'll post a
photo of me eating a hat. Only condition- you have to recognize the
difference between statements *about* political posts and a statement
taking a political stance.

As far as I know, jps is currently boatless.

History keeps repeating itself in this NG; guys with little or no
interest in boating keep migrating in to pick political fights. Pizz
on that. There are 2,796,415 places to go act silly and call names
over politics- but darn few boating newsgroups. I'm not embarrased to
discourage the politic trolls- even the wanna-be liberals.

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As far as I know, jps is currently boatless.

My whaler is in the garage.

jps

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:28:56 -0700, jps wrote:

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As far as I know, jps is currently boatless.

My whaler is in the garage.

jps

Is it on a trailer? I guess it's not a 30'er then, is it. Which one is it?
--
John H

On Jul 11, 11:28?pm, jps wrote:
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As far as I know, jps is currently boatless.

My whaler is in the garage.

jps

sounds a little dinghy to me. :-)

Now that you have spent two days arguing politics with waitafrickin,
et al,,,,, what changed as a result? (aside from general opinions of
the participants?) Why not post your political nonsense somewhere
else? If you feel like you need to have a right winger for breakfast
in order to start your day, there are plenty of sites dedicated that
that sort of thing and where you'll also find rightwingers gathered to
dine on a leftie. You could have a grand old political ****ing match
almost non-stop. Shortwave's thread wasn't boating related, but it
didn't deserve to be hijacked and he didn't deserve to have you
challenging his politics.

The Iraq war is far from over. The general plan is to keep the US
engaged there and elsewhere until we spend ourselves into collapse,
much like Reagan accomplished with his policies that brought down the
Soviet Union. It's way to soon to start crowing that one side was
right and one side was wrong, or to demand that people "admit" a
mistake. We don't know yet whether anybody was mistaken, or if so who
that actually was. Crowing about being correct from the start at this
point in time seems a lot like all of the "purple finger" celebrating
that some folks engaged in when the Iraqi's appeared to have elected a
government. It's way too soon, ill advised, and even if it proves in
the end that the anit-war factions were "more correct" than the pro-
war factions nobody will be well served being forced to eat a shame
salad. Success is the art of being right at least 51% of the time.
It's good practice to respect the sincere beliefs of people who
disagree with you, IMO.....there's certainly no point in trying to
change
them.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:44:13 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

The Iraq war is far from over. The general plan is to keep the US
engaged there and elsewhere until we spend ourselves into collapse,
much like Reagan accomplished with his policies that brought down the
Soviet Union.

Bullfeathers. Pope John Paul II, Lech Walesa, advance of electronic
communications, and plain overdue failure of the commie system brought
down the Soviet Union.
Reagan accomplished nothing but the nurturing of latent dittoheads
and union busters.
You sound like Fox News and the other Reagan butt-kissers.
How's it going with the boat?

--Vic

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:44:13 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

The Iraq war is far from over. The general plan is to keep the US
engaged there and elsewhere until we spend ourselves into collapse,
much like Reagan accomplished with his policies that brought down the
Soviet Union.

Bullfeathers. Pope John Paul II, Lech Walesa, advance of electronic
communications, and plain overdue failure of the commie system brought
down the Soviet Union.
Reagan accomplished nothing but the nurturing of latent dittoheads
and union busters.
You sound like Fox News and the other Reagan butt-kissers.

Chuck wants everyone to feel included, even if he has to kiss Reagan's
butt sometimes.

I remember Reagan fondly for trickle down economics, deregulating banks
(that cost US taxpayers a fortune) and pulling us out of Beirut. A move
that allowed militant Islamists to fester in Lebanon and spread
elsewhere.

The Gipper was a tool.

jps