On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:44:00 -0500, wrote:

that's a good point, too..after all, folks still go sailing!

Yes, and even a slow trawler is faster than all but the biggest, fully
crewed sailboat.

We just did 1500 nautical miles in 14 days with our trawler, rarely
exceeding 8 1/2 kts. That included 4 or 5 all nighters for those
doing the math. Slow and steady wins the race every time, and after
arrival you have a nice spacious, comfortable boat to live aboard, not
a cramped express cruiser with little or no view of the world from the
main cabin. Express cruisers make great weekend party boats, not much
more.

Another point worth mentioning is that trawler hulls are designed to
run at slow speeds whereas most boats with larger gas engines are not.
Our old sportfish would wallow all over the place if run at slow
speeds, a very uncomfortable motion.

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:14:34 -0500, wrote:

giving some thought to either a trawler or cruiser for galveston
bay/gulf of mexico. purpose would be just to tool around while not
paying huge bux for gas.

trawler seems to have an advantage with a smaller, generally diesel
engine. one trawler i have an eye on is a 27' boat with 165 hp engine.
does 7 kts at 2 gph (according to the literature)

cruiser would be nice in that you'd have power if you wanted it...but
you pay for those twin 350's! if you're not gonna use 'em alot, why
buy 'em. but it's possible to cut down on gas use by loafing along at
7 kts in a cruiser, too.

any thoughts?

I've been trying to choose a cruising-type boat myself, and don't care
about speed, even less about burning gas.
I think it was Wayne that gave me this link.
http://www.rosboroughboats.com/sedan_cruiser.html

In reading the testimonials, one guy with a 246 mentioned:
"The 140 hp Suzuki outboard has worked out well. We burn a little less
than two gal/hr at a cruising speed of 12 knots when loaded with
provisions and fuel for an extended run. When we drop to hull speed,
she burns very little fuel."

Lots of choices out there, and configurations to play with.
For instance what if you put two 50's on the above boat?
Now you have engine redundancy.
Cruising speed? Fuel consumption?
Don't know but it would be fun to find out.

--Vic

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:


I've been trying to choose a cruising-type boat myself, and don't care
about speed, even less about burning gas.
I think it was Wayne that gave me this link.
http://www.rosboroughboats.com/sedan_cruiser.html


great boat...but gotta find a used one at a reasonable price...hard to
do...

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:56:21 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:


I've been trying to choose a cruising-type boat myself, and don't care
about speed, even less about burning gas.
I think it was Wayne that gave me this link.
http://www.rosboroughboats.com/sedan_cruiser.html


great boat...but gotta find a used one at a reasonable price...hard to
do...

Yeah, it's an "investment."
Probably 40k for one a dozen years old.
That's why Bayliner sells more boats.
When you have to plunk down 40 large, you look for alternatives.
Cost-wise I'm looking for more of a Chevy type boat, but could move up
to a Buick, which might be equated to a 12 year old Rosborough.
But the Rosborough isn't as disposable as a car, and should hold some
value a bit longer.

--Vic

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:24:31 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

Anyway, those are my current thoughts.

I don't know - maybe I just haven't found the right boat for
"cruising".

Of all the boats I've been on and seen over the past year or so, the
Grand Banks interests me a lot.

I just can't get past that whole 7 knot thing. Plus, I'm a fiddler -
I like to play with the trim buttons, tinker with the controls, adjust
this and that. Plus, going quickly (rather than flat out) keeps you
on your toes and interested in what's going on.

Putting my feet up and watching the shore line slide past isn't a
concept that I readily accept.



One of the local wags describes it as "Comaboating."

Do you imagine that your imaginary lobster boat is faster and more exciting?

"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:24:31 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

Anyway, those are my current thoughts.

I don't know - maybe I just haven't found the right boat for
"cruising".

Of all the boats I've been on and seen over the past year or so, the
Grand Banks interests me a lot.

I just can't get past that whole 7 knot thing. Plus, I'm a fiddler -
I like to play with the trim buttons, tinker with the controls, adjust
this and that. Plus, going quickly (rather than flat out) keeps you
on your toes and interested in what's going on.

Putting my feet up and watching the shore line slide past isn't a
concept that I readily accept.



One of the local wags describes it as "Comaboating."

My mental image...........the trawler crawling WOT at 7 knots.........Perry
Como laying across the rear cockpit seat looking up at the sky and
singing............falling asleep thinking about it.............

Sorry Wayne.........a great ride, cruising speed and creature comforts can
be found in far too many boats besides the 7 knot Grand Banks. ;-)

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:24:31 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

Anyway, those are my current thoughts.
I don't know - maybe I just haven't found the right boat for
"cruising".

Of all the boats I've been on and seen over the past year or so, the
Grand Banks interests me a lot.

I just can't get past that whole 7 knot thing. Plus, I'm a fiddler -
I like to play with the trim buttons, tinker with the controls, adjust
this and that. Plus, going quickly (rather than flat out) keeps you
on your toes and interested in what's going on.

Putting my feet up and watching the shore line slide past isn't a
concept that I readily accept.


One of the local wags describes it as "Comaboating."

My mental image...........the trawler crawling WOT at 7 knots.........Perry
Como laying across the rear cockpit seat looking up at the sky and
singing............falling asleep thinking about it.............

Sorry Wayne.........a great ride, cruising speed and creature comforts can
be found in far too many boats besides the 7 knot Grand Banks. ;-)



It was a pretty decent speed when I used to mess about in sailboats, but
not for a powerboat, not for me.

I also prefer to stay at nice hotels when I travel rather than any on
about any boat I can think of, short of 90-foot yachts.

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:50:14 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Sorry Wayne.........a great ride, cruising speed and creature comforts can
be found in far too many boats besides the 7 knot Grand Banks. ;-)

Our GB will actually cruise at 10+ if needed, but the increase in fuel
burn is not usually justified.

It's all in your state of mind, what kind of fuel range you need, and
what conditions you operate in. I'll challenge any of your other
choices to meet us 50 miles off shore and run for 72 hours straight
in 6 to 8 foot seas. If you run only in flat water and are happy with
a 200 mile range almost any boat will do.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I've been trying to choose a cruising-type boat myself, and don't care
about speed, even less about burning gas.
I think it was Wayne that gave me this link.
http://www.rosboroughboats.com/sedan_cruiser.html

One extra advantage to the RF246 is trailerability. That in itself
can save a lot of time and fuel if you want to cruise outside of your
regular area.

I've talked to several owners and they have all been very positive.
It's not an offshore boat of course.

Wayne.B wrote:
I'll challenge any of your other
choices to meet us 50 miles off shore and run for 72 hours straight
in 6 to 8 foot seas.


Why would I want to do that?