"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:50:14 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Sorry Wayne.........a great ride, cruising speed and creature comforts can
be found in far too many boats besides the 7 knot Grand Banks. ;-)



I'll challenge any of your other
choices to meet us 50 miles off shore and run for 72 hours straight
in 6 to 8 foot seas.

This would do quite nicely:

http://www.ssqq.com/archive/images/gregnorman03.jpg

http://www.ssqq.com/archive/vinlin24.htm

;-)

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:40:36 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

This would do quite nicely:

http://www.ssqq.com/archive/images/gregnorman03.jpg

http://www.ssqq.com/archive/vinlin24.htm

If you can get Greg to lend you his boat I'd be happy to supply the
beer and help with the sea trial.

Meanwhile there are boats for the rest of us.

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 07:16:55 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll challenge any of your other
choices to meet us 50 miles off shore and run for 72 hours straight
in 6 to 8 foot seas.


Why would I want to do that?

That's precisely the point: Different horses for different courses.

People who have no interest in long range cruising don't need the
capability of a long range trawler. My "other boat" is a 27 ft
runabout that will cruise at 25 to 30 kts for 5 or 6 hours. It's a
fun boat but not for cruising.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:37:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:44:00 -0500, wrote:

that's a good point, too..after all, folks still go sailing!

Yes, and even a slow trawler is faster than all but the biggest, fully
crewed sailboat.

We just did 1500 nautical miles in 14 days with our trawler, rarely
exceeding 8 1/2 kts.

you know, alot of boating is philosophical. just compare the reasons
why people go sailing rather than powerboating

and being FORCED to go slow has alot to be said for it. being forced
to consider the sea...to spend time just cruising along...runs counter
to contemporary life...and is a pleasure!


Another point worth mentioning is that trawler hulls are designed to
run at slow speeds whereas most boats with larger gas engines are not.
Our old sportfish would wallow all over the place if run at slow
speeds, a very uncomfortable motion.

trawlers definitely have an attraction...

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:43:29 -0500, wrote:

and being FORCED to go slow has alot to be said for it. being forced
to consider the sea...to spend time just cruising along...runs counter
to contemporary life...and is a pleasure!

I never look at it as "forced". It's my *choice* if I buy a boat that
is slow. I see it opposite as you do, or at least how you stated it.
If I do 8 knots in an 8 knot boat, I won't feel forced. I'll feel I
got just what I asked for.
I'm guessing you're saying that if you had, say a 24' Carolina Skiff
with a 150hp, capable of 40+ knots, you wouldn't spend much
time cruising at 8 knots. More likely you'd cruise at @25. Me too.
Hey! I ended up agreeing with you!

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:43:29 -0500, wrote:
and being FORCED to go slow has alot to be said for it. being forced
to consider the sea...to spend time just cruising along...runs counter
to contemporary life...and is a pleasure!

I never look at it as "forced". It's my *choice* if I buy a boat that
is slow. I see it opposite as you do, or at least how you stated it.
If I do 8 knots in an 8 knot boat, I won't feel forced. I'll feel I
got just what I asked for.
I'm guessing you're saying that if you had, say a 24' Carolina Skiff
with a 150hp, capable of 40+ knots, you wouldn't spend much
time cruising at 8 knots. More likely you'd cruise at @25. Me too.
Hey! I ended up agreeing with you!

--Vic


At least on the CS, you'd have the choice.

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:50:29 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:43:29 -0500, wrote:

and being FORCED to go slow has alot to be said for it. being forced
to consider the sea...to spend time just cruising along...runs counter
to contemporary life...and is a pleasure!

I never look at it as "forced". It's my *choice* if I buy a boat that
is slow. I see it opposite as you do, or at least how you stated it.
If I do 8 knots in an 8 knot boat, I won't feel forced. I'll feel I
got just what I asked for.
I'm guessing you're saying that if you had, say a 24' Carolina Skiff
with a 150hp, capable of 40+ knots, you wouldn't spend much
time cruising at 8 knots. More likely you'd cruise at @25. Me too.
Hey! I ended up agreeing with you!

A couple of years ago, I spent some time with the NE Evinrude service
rep and he told me that, according to computer data pulled off of
engines, the average RPM for Evinrude engines was 2800.

He attributed it to slow running, trolling type activities.

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:16:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:50:29 -0500, Vic Smith

I'm guessing you're saying that if you had, say a 24' Carolina Skiff
with a 150hp, capable of 40+ knots, you wouldn't spend much
time cruising at 8 knots. More likely you'd cruise at @25. Me too.
Hey! I ended up agreeing with you!

A couple of years ago, I spent some time with the NE Evinrude service
rep and he told me that, according to computer data pulled off of
engines, the average RPM for Evinrude engines was 2800.

He attributed it to slow running, trolling type activities.

Don't know. Averaging is tricky. Lot's of idle time too. I've been
on boats in small lakes where the OB is idling for 20 minutes while
everybody is yakking and prepping gear, then it WOT across the lake
for 10 minutes, back to idle for 1/2 hour of drifting/casting, then
repeat. Than again I've slow trolled for crappies with pinkies for
hours at maybe 1500. Imagine ocean trolling for big stuff is
different. What's your experience with your motors?

--Vic

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:05:56 -0400, HK wrote:

At least on the CS, you'd have the choice.

There's that, and it's a pretty efficient hull for economy at any
speed, barring windage.
But when you get to something you can live on and that handle
heavier seas, hull compromises for fuel economy tend to restrict
speed. I think.

--Vic

JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:50:14 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Sorry Wayne.........a great ride, cruising speed and creature comforts can
be found in far too many boats besides the 7 knot Grand Banks. ;-)


I'll challenge any of your other
choices to meet us 50 miles off shore and run for 72 hours straight
in 6 to 8 foot seas.

This would do quite nicely:

http://www.ssqq.com/archive/images/gregnorman03.jpg

http://www.ssqq.com/archive/vinlin24.htm

;-)



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or

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