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JimH July 2nd 07 10:37 PM

The date is set
 
August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son leaves
for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training after
completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially call himself
a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid September but the MP
opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.



JimH July 2nd 07 10:59 PM

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"JimH" ask wrote in message
...
August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training
after completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially call
himself a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid September
but the MP opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.



Chuck Gould July 2nd 07 11:01 PM

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On Jul 2, 2:37?pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son leaves
for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training after
completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially call himself
a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid September but the MP
opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.



RCE July 2nd 07 11:09 PM

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"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training
after completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially
call himself a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid
September but the MP opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.



Best wishes for your son. Although tough, the physical aspect of basic
training is not the big challenge. The challenge is mental. Make sure he
is prepared for it.

Eisboch



JimH July 2nd 07 11:16 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 2, 2:37?pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves
for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training after
completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially call
himself
a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid September but the
MP
opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.



Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there well
before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best friends sons (US
Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



RCE July 2nd 07 11:23 PM

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"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...



Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.



Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch



JimH July 2nd 07 11:28 PM

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"RCE" wrote in message
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"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training
after completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially
call himself a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid
September but the MP opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating
on his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile
race and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.



Best wishes for your son. Although tough, the physical aspect of basic
training is not the big challenge. The challenge is mental. Make sure
he is prepared for it.

Eisboch


Thanks! Based on weekly meetings with his recruiter, family meetings with
the local US Marine Corp. recruit families and Staff Sergeants, reading a
training guide for Marine boot camp and watching numerous videos offered to
him by his recruiter and friends of ours (who's sons successfully went
through boot camp) he will be ready.

He has given a lot of thought into this and started the mental process even
before he officially signed the papers.



JoeSpareBedroom July 2nd 07 11:28 PM

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"RCE" wrote in message
...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...



Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.



Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?



JimH July 2nd 07 11:32 PM

The date is set
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...



Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.



Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch


Please pass along my sincere thanks to him for his service to our Country
and his successful return. You and your wilfe/family have to be proud of
his service and thankful he is now out of harms way. ;-)



RCE July 2nd 07 11:34 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?



Although humorous at times, you are basically a clueless idiot.

Eisbcoh



JimH July 2nd 07 11:35 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"RCE" wrote in message
...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...



Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.



Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?


I request that folks avoid this troll from further polluting what was an
honorable thread.



JoeSpareBedroom July 2nd 07 11:36 PM

The date is set
 
"RCE" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?



Although humorous at times, you are basically a clueless idiot.

Eisbcoh


I thought it was a reasonable question. We were presented with an initial
list of reasons, some of which evaporated and were replaced by others.
You're a smart guy, so it follows that you raised a smart son. I doubt he
went based only on faith.



Short Wave Sportfishing July 2nd 07 11:38 PM

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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
m...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...



Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.



Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?


Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.

JoeSpareBedroom July 2nd 07 11:39 PM

The date is set
 
"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"RCE" wrote in message
...

"JimH" ask
wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?


I request that folks avoid this troll from further polluting what was an
honorable thread.



It's still an honorable thread, and will remain so. But, a neighbor's son
(10th Mountain Division) just returned and although he was glad to have
learned something about another part of the world, he had thoughts about the
war that most here would consider to be heresy. So, there's another side of
it. There is one, you know?



JoeSpareBedroom July 2nd 07 11:39 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
om...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?


Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.


Sorry. I forgot to check the list of approved questions.



Short Wave Sportfishing July 2nd 07 11:40 PM

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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:59:23 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.


As long as he keeps his head on straight, he'll do fine.

MPs is a good way to go - he'll almost be guarenteed a slot in law
enforcement if he chooses that as a career.

Good luck to him.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 2nd 07 11:42 PM

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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:36:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
m...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?


Although humorous at times, you are basically a clueless idiot.


I thought it was a reasonable question. We were presented with an initial
list of reasons, some of which evaporated and were replaced by others.
You're a smart guy, so it follows that you raised a smart son. I doubt he
went based only on faith.


It's not a reasonable question and you know it.

And you know why you asked it.

Give it cynicism a rest - it and you are getting boring.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 2nd 07 11:44 PM

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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:39:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
news:YMGdncrzHMmY5hTbnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@giganews. com...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch

Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?


Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.


Sorry. I forgot to check the list of approved questions.


Not the point and you know it.

JimH July 2nd 07 11:49 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:59:23 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.


As long as he keeps his head on straight, he'll do fine.

MPs is a good way to go - he'll almost be guarenteed a slot in law
enforcement if he chooses that as a career.

Good luck to him.



Thanks. He was thinking Highway Patrol or city Police.



JimH July 2nd 07 11:52 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:36:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
om...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion
reasons
he clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?

Although humorous at times, you are basically a clueless idiot.


I thought it was a reasonable question. We were presented with an initial
list of reasons, some of which evaporated and were replaced by others.
You're a smart guy, so it follows that you raised a smart son. I doubt he
went based only on faith.


It's not a reasonable question and you know it.

And you know why you asked it.

Give it cynicism a rest - it and you are getting boring.


Thank you and Eisboch for setting this asshole straight.



JoeSpareBedroom July 2nd 07 11:53 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:36:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
om...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...


Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion
reasons
he clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?

Although humorous at times, you are basically a clueless idiot.


I thought it was a reasonable question. We were presented with an initial
list of reasons, some of which evaporated and were replaced by others.
You're a smart guy, so it follows that you raised a smart son. I doubt he
went based only on faith.


It's not a reasonable question and you know it.

And you know why you asked it.

Give it cynicism a rest - it and you are getting boring.


It's not cynicism, Tom. It's clear reasoning. People should not make
decisions based on pure faith unless those decisions stand no chance of
affecting anyone else. If Bush believed his evolving list of reasons, the
only possible explanation is faith. That breaks my rule. I don't believe in
sending other people's kids into harm's way based on faith.



JoeSpareBedroom July 2nd 07 11:54 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:39:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
news:YMGdncrzHMmY5hTbnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@giganews .com...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or
even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions
there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch

Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?

Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.


Sorry. I forgot to check the list of approved questions.


Not the point and you know it.


The point is that we should be quiet, right? Don't cause parents of soldiers
any more worry than they may already have?

The quiet ain't gonna happen. The time to worry about your kids is when
they're still close enough to learn some history, and spot politicians who
are doomed to repeat it.



JimH July 2nd 07 11:54 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
news:YMGdncrzHMmY5hTbnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@giganews. com...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or
even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions
there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch

Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?


Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.


Sorry. I forgot to check the list of approved questions.


Drop it already. You have already proven in this thread how much of an
asshole you are.....there is no need for further proof Doug.



JoeSpareBedroom July 2nd 07 11:56 PM

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"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
news:YMGdncrzHMmY5hTbnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@giganews .com...

"JimH" ask
wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or
even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions
there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch

Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion reasons
he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?

Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.


Sorry. I forgot to check the list of approved questions.


Drop it already. You have already proven in this thread how much of an
asshole you are.....there is no need for further proof Doug.



Based on your reaction, nobody can say a word while our soldiers are at war.
Therefore, all a president needs to do in order to silence the population is
make sure we are perpetually at war. It's magic.



RCE July 2nd 07 11:58 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:39:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
news:YMGdncrzHMmY5hTbnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@giganew s.com...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or
even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions
there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was
just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch

Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion
reasons
he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?

Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.

Sorry. I forgot to check the list of approved questions.


Not the point and you know it.


The point is that we should be quiet, right? Don't cause parents of
soldiers any more worry than they may already have?

The quiet ain't gonna happen. The time to worry about your kids is when
they're still close enough to learn some history, and spot politicians who
are doomed to repeat it.


Talk to me when your adult son or daughter decides he/she wants to serve
his/her country.
Until then, your opinions are noise level bull****.

Eisboch



Bill July 3rd 07 12:06 AM

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On Jul 2, 2:37 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son leaves
for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training after
completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially call himself
a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid September but the MP
opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Tell him Sempre Fi for me. It's really an amazing thing to do and a
difficult choice but a wiser man than me once said that anything in
life worth having doesn't come easy. Your son is going to know what
those words mean real soon. I've never met him but I'm proud.

Bill


Bill July 3rd 07 12:10 AM

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On Jul 2, 3:49 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:1jvi83pekl7vhngobbe644cht24v1ncbg8@4ax .com...

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:59:23 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.


As long as he keeps his head on straight, he'll do fine.


MPs is a good way to go - he'll almost be guarenteed a slot in law
enforcement if he chooses that as a career.


Good luck to him.


Thanks. He was thinking Highway Patrol or city Police.


My Dad was a Police officer for over 30 years before he retired. His
recommendation is City departments if you want personal interaction
with the people, or some specialized group. Drug enforcement agencies
tend to have less political crap to deal with. I'm sure your son
would make a fine addition to any force but many of them have been
over liberalized to the point that he will be treated very badly by
his own people. I hope this is not the case.



JimH July 3rd 07 12:18 AM

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"Bill" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 2, 2:37 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves
for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training after
completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially call
himself
a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid September but the
MP
opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Tell him Sempre Fi for me. It's really an amazing thing to do and a
difficult choice but a wiser man than me once said that anything in
life worth having doesn't come easy. Your son is going to know what
those words mean real soon. I've never met him but I'm proud.

Bill


Thank you Bill.

I will be printing this entire thread for him to read prior to him leaving.

On the behalf of my son, thanks for all the support!



Short Wave Sportfishing July 3rd 07 12:29 AM

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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:54:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

The point is that we should be quiet, right? Don't cause parents of soldiers
any more worry than they may already have?


It's not your choice and it's not your decision. Further, it's not
your child.

In short, it has nothing to do with you, your opinon on the war, your
opinion of politicians or your opinion about anything.

Jim's son made his choice - I happen to know it was an informed choice
and he made it in the light of day. It's his decision. Jim has the
right to be proud of his son if it were the Air Force, Army, Marines,
Coast Guard or (THE HORROR) Navy because he is serving his country in
an honorable fashion.

It's a thread about Jim, his family and his son's decision. This is
not a thread about you and your faux intellectual opinons about life
the universe and everything.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 3rd 07 12:31 AM

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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:18:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Bill" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 2, 2:37 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves
for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training after
completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially call
himself
a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid September but the
MP
opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Tell him Sempre Fi for me. It's really an amazing thing to do and a
difficult choice but a wiser man than me once said that anything in
life worth having doesn't come easy. Your son is going to know what
those words mean real soon. I've never met him but I'm proud.

Bill


Thank you Bill.

I will be printing this entire thread for him to read prior to him leaving.

On the behalf of my son, thanks for all the support!


Let me know when he gets his snail mail addy.

You have my email addy.

Vic Smith July 3rd 07 12:38 AM

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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:39:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



I request that folks avoid this troll from further polluting what was an
honorable thread.



It's still an honorable thread, and will remain so. But, a neighbor's son
(10th Mountain Division) just returned and although he was glad to have
learned something about another part of the world, he had thoughts about the
war that most here would consider to be heresy. So, there's another side of
it. There is one, you know?

Just had to participate here so some of the honor would rub off on me.
You know, from the thread.
There! My back is now a ramrod, and my head is held high.
I salute you all!

--Vic

BAR July 3rd 07 03:43 AM

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RCE wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training
after completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially
call himself a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid
September but the MP opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.

Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.



Best wishes for your son. Although tough, the physical aspect of basic
training is not the big challenge. The challenge is mental. Make sure he
is prepared for it.


Richard is correct and SWS will back me up on this too. Don't laugh, you
may see some of the funniest things you have ever seen or heard but
don't laugh. Just picture 60 guy's doing the manual of arms with a foot
locker, or standing their with their right arm outstretched, their
pinkies on their right hand sticking out, the other fingers curled, and
an M-16 resting on that outstretched pinkie finger.

Get used to hurry up and wait.



Tim July 3rd 07 04:34 AM

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On Jul 2, 9:43 pm, BAR wrote:
RCE wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .


August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training
after completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially
call himself a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid
September but the MP opportunity came up if he went in earlier.


Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.


He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.


We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.


Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.


Best wishes for your son. Although tough, the physical aspect of basic
training is not the big challenge. The challenge is mental. Make sure he
is prepared for it.


Richard is correct and SWS will back me up on this too. Don't laugh, you
may see some of the funniest things you have ever seen or heard but
don't laugh. Just picture 60 guy's doing the manual of arms with a foot
locker, or standing their with their right arm outstretched, their
pinkies on their right hand sticking out, the other fingers curled, and
an M-16 resting on that outstretched pinkie finger.

Get used to hurry up and wait.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"


RCE July 3rd 07 11:11 AM

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"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...


Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"


Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing July 3rd 07 11:50 AM

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:11:17 -0400, "RCE" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...


Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"


Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.


MSgt: I need a volunteer for jump school.

Me: Oh - COOL!! I'll go...

BAR July 3rd 07 12:22 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:11:17 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"

Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.


MSgt: I need a volunteer for jump school.

Me: Oh - COOL!! I'll go...


Did you uphold the honor of the Corps and get your wings?

I got my wings in the civilian world, after 1000 jumps.


Short Wave Sportfishing July 3rd 07 12:28 PM

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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:22:50 -0400, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:11:17 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"
Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.


MSgt: I need a volunteer for jump school.

Me: Oh - COOL!! I'll go...


Did you uphold the honor of the Corps and get your wings?


Oh yeah.

And I volunteered. :) Everybody in my class was "volunteered".

The funny thing about volunteering in the military. When I was a
survival instructor, I don't think I had one person who actually
volunteered for survival training.

Funny how that works huh? :)

I got my wings in the civilian world, after 1000 jumps.


Good lord - I only got 180 jumps total including 50 civilian jumps
after.

These things called knees finally gave up the ghost after a couple of
bad landings. Discretion was the better part of valor.

BAR July 3rd 07 12:59 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:22:50 -0400, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:11:17 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"
Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.
MSgt: I need a volunteer for jump school.

Me: Oh - COOL!! I'll go...

Did you uphold the honor of the Corps and get your wings?


Oh yeah.

And I volunteered. :) Everybody in my class was "volunteered".

The funny thing about volunteering in the military. When I was a
survival instructor, I don't think I had one person who actually
volunteered for survival training.

Funny how that works huh? :)

I got my wings in the civilian world, after 1000 jumps.


Good lord - I only got 180 jumps total including 50 civilian jumps
after.

These things called knees finally gave up the ghost after a couple of
bad landings. Discretion was the better part of valor.


I herniated my L5/S1 disk in 1979, went through boot camp, 4 years
reserve, and 7 years skydiving. Now I have torn cartilage in left knee,
arthritis throughout the entire body especially my neck it crunches and
crackles every time I move it. And, I have a five inch scar on my back,
extended butt crack from my laminectomy and partial discectomy back in
'04. Oh, and my right great toe had a chielectomy (removal of bone
spurs) 5 days before the back surgery.

But I had fun.

JoeSpareBedroom July 3rd 07 01:50 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:54:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

The point is that we should be quiet, right? Don't cause parents of
soldiers
any more worry than they may already have?


It's not your choice and it's not your decision. Further, it's not
your child.

In short, it has nothing to do with you, your opinon on the war, your
opinion of politicians or your opinion about anything.

Jim's son made his choice - I happen to know it was an informed choice
and he made it in the light of day. It's his decision. Jim has the
right to be proud of his son if it were the Air Force, Army, Marines,
Coast Guard or (THE HORROR) Navy because he is serving his country in
an honorable fashion.

It's a thread about Jim, his family and his son's decision. This is
not a thread about you and your faux intellectual opinons about life
the universe and everything.


I agree that he's got the right to his choice and his opinion, even now when
a certain segment of the population thinks that only one type of opinion
should be expressed. I'm just curious to know what the reasoning is because
when people like Richard Lugar begin to question the president's plan, we
know the foundation is cracking. Even senior members of the Iraqi government
are saying that our goals are bizarre.

In the past, you've said it was just an honor to serve in uniform, but
that's too general a statement at this point in history.



JoeSpareBedroom July 3rd 07 01:54 PM

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"RCE" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:39:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
news:YMGdncrzHMmY5hTbnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@gigane ws.com...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or
even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions
there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was
just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the
Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch

Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion
reasons
he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?

Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.

Sorry. I forgot to check the list of approved questions.

Not the point and you know it.


The point is that we should be quiet, right? Don't cause parents of
soldiers any more worry than they may already have?

The quiet ain't gonna happen. The time to worry about your kids is when
they're still close enough to learn some history, and spot politicians
who are doomed to repeat it.


Talk to me when your adult son or daughter decides he/she wants to serve
his/her country.
Until then, your opinions are noise level bull****.

Eisboch



We can't compare two different sons. Mine has said he wouldn't join until
there's a commander in chief he trusts (which, by the way, includes Bush-1).




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