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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:39:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



I request that folks avoid this troll from further polluting what was an
honorable thread.


It's still an honorable thread, and will remain so. But, a neighbor's son
(10th Mountain Division) just returned and although he was glad to have
learned something about another part of the world, he had thoughts about the
war that most here would consider to be heresy. So, there's another side of
it. There is one, you know?

Just had to participate here so some of the honor would rub off on me.
You know, from the thread.
There! My back is now a ramrod, and my head is held high.
I salute you all!

--Vic

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RCE wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
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August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training
after completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially
call himself a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid
September but the MP opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.

Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.


Best wishes for your son. Although tough, the physical aspect of basic
training is not the big challenge. The challenge is mental. Make sure he
is prepared for it.

Richard is correct and SWS will back me up on this too. Don't laugh, you
may see some of the funniest things you have ever seen or heard but
don't laugh. Just picture 60 guy's doing the manual of arms with a foot
locker, or standing their with their right arm outstretched, their
pinkies on their right hand sticking out, the other fingers curled, and
an M-16 resting on that outstretched pinkie finger.

Get used to hurry up and wait.

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On Jul 2, 9:43 pm, BAR wrote:
RCE wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .

August 13, 2007. One day before our 25th Wedding Anniversary our son
leaves for Paris Island. He is slotted for Military Police training
after completing basic training and *earning* his right to officially
call himself a Marine. He originally planned delayed entry in mid
September but the MP opportunity came up if he went in earlier.

Even before his decision to join the Marines he has been concentrating on
his physical condition, recently completing a community event 5 mile race
and finishing in 2nd place.

He will continue with the physical preparation but will now start to
mentally focus on the fact that he will be leaving for Paris Island in 6
weeks.

We are very proud of him and his decision to join the Marine Corps.

Make that Parris Island. Sorry to disrespect the name.

Best wishes for your son. Although tough, the physical aspect of basic
training is not the big challenge. The challenge is mental. Make sure he
is prepared for it.

Richard is correct and SWS will back me up on this too. Don't laugh, you
may see some of the funniest things you have ever seen or heard but
don't laugh. Just picture 60 guy's doing the manual of arms with a foot
locker, or standing their with their right arm outstretched, their
pinkies on their right hand sticking out, the other fingers curled, and
an M-16 resting on that outstretched pinkie finger.

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Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"

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"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...


Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"


Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.

Eisboch

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:11:17 -0400, "RCE" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...


Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"

Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.

MSgt: I need a volunteer for jump school.

Me: Oh - COOL!! I'll go...

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:11:17 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"
Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.

MSgt: I need a volunteer for jump school.

Me: Oh - COOL!! I'll go...

Did you uphold the honor of the Corps and get your wings?

I got my wings in the civilian world, after 1000 jumps.

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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:22:50 -0400, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:11:17 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"
Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.

MSgt: I need a volunteer for jump school.

Me: Oh - COOL!! I'll go...

Did you uphold the honor of the Corps and get your wings?

Oh yeah.

And I volunteered. :) Everybody in my class was "volunteered".

The funny thing about volunteering in the military. When I was a
survival instructor, I don't think I had one person who actually
volunteered for survival training.

Funny how that works huh? :)

I got my wings in the civilian world, after 1000 jumps.

Good lord - I only got 180 jumps total including 50 civilian jumps
after.

These things called knees finally gave up the ghost after a couple of
bad landings. Discretion was the better part of valor.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:22:50 -0400, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:11:17 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

Even though I didn't mind it, don't volunteer to be a "truck driver"
Better yet, don't volunteer for anything.
MSgt: I need a volunteer for jump school.

Me: Oh - COOL!! I'll go...
Did you uphold the honor of the Corps and get your wings?

Oh yeah.

And I volunteered. :) Everybody in my class was "volunteered".

The funny thing about volunteering in the military. When I was a
survival instructor, I don't think I had one person who actually
volunteered for survival training.

Funny how that works huh? :)

I got my wings in the civilian world, after 1000 jumps.

Good lord - I only got 180 jumps total including 50 civilian jumps
after.

These things called knees finally gave up the ghost after a couple of
bad landings. Discretion was the better part of valor.

I herniated my L5/S1 disk in 1979, went through boot camp, 4 years
reserve, and 7 years skydiving. Now I have torn cartilage in left knee,
arthritis throughout the entire body especially my neck it crunches and
crackles every time I move it. And, I have a five inch scar on my back,
extended butt crack from my laminectomy and partial discectomy back in
'04. Oh, and my right great toe had a chielectomy (removal of bone
spurs) 5 days before the back surgery.

But I had fun.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:54:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

The point is that we should be quiet, right? Don't cause parents of
soldiers
any more worry than they may already have?

It's not your choice and it's not your decision. Further, it's not
your child.

In short, it has nothing to do with you, your opinon on the war, your
opinion of politicians or your opinion about anything.

Jim's son made his choice - I happen to know it was an informed choice
and he made it in the light of day. It's his decision. Jim has the
right to be proud of his son if it were the Air Force, Army, Marines,
Coast Guard or (THE HORROR) Navy because he is serving his country in
an honorable fashion.

It's a thread about Jim, his family and his son's decision. This is
not a thread about you and your faux intellectual opinons about life
the universe and everything.

I agree that he's got the right to his choice and his opinion, even now when
a certain segment of the population thinks that only one type of opinion
should be expressed. I'm just curious to know what the reasoning is because
when people like Richard Lugar begin to question the president's plan, we
know the foundation is cracking. Even senior members of the Iraqi government
are saying that our goals are bizarre.

In the past, you've said it was just an honor to serve in uniform, but
that's too general a statement at this point in history.

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"RCE" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:39:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:28:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"RCE" wrote in message
news:YMGdncrzHMmY5hTbnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@gigane ws.com...

"JimH" ask wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Congrats to him.

I'd like to hope the situation in Iraq improves and stabilizes or
even
gets resolved before he's eligible to be deployed.


Thank you Chuck.

We will be getting a first hand report on the *actual* conditions
there
well before he is slated for deployment to Iraq as 2 of our best
friends
sons (US Marines) are soon scheduled for redeployment to Iraq.



Ironic. Your son is starting his duty. Mine, (Eisboch Jr.) was
just
discharged yesterday after 4 years and two deployments to the
Persian
Gulf.

Life goes on.

Eisboch

Did your son ever mention which of the list of vaporous invasion
reasons
he
clung to in order to remain sane in Iraq?

Stop being an ass Doug.

Honest to pete.

Sorry. I forgot to check the list of approved questions.

Not the point and you know it.

The point is that we should be quiet, right? Don't cause parents of
soldiers any more worry than they may already have?

The quiet ain't gonna happen. The time to worry about your kids is when
they're still close enough to learn some history, and spot politicians
who are doomed to repeat it.


Talk to me when your adult son or daughter decides he/she wants to serve
his/her country.
Until then, your opinions are noise level bull****.

Eisboch


We can't compare two different sons. Mine has said he wouldn't join until
there's a commander in chief he trusts (which, by the way, includes Bush-1).