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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
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In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
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In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

Does this look familiar?

Not to any federal officeholder of the past 40 years not named "Ron
Paul".


"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and
defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,
foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to
the same;"


Let's see what, if anything JohnH has to say about that oath.

What do YOU?

I say don't swear to defend something that only has symbolic meaning. But,
the constitution is as real as tonight's dinner.

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:26:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have
taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens
in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're
not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That is an
affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you
don't
understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your
country in
the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were serving for.
Thomas
Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your failure to understand.
Then,
he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for another dressing-down.


I asked which rights you'd lost, not which you were willing to give up.
You
implied the Patriot Act cost you civil rights. Well, back up your
statement, or else you just sound like Harry, another whiner.


Among other things, the Patriot Act (which you have not read from end to
end) includes meddling with habeas corpus. If one citizen loses that
right, every citizen loses that right.

Does this look familiar?

"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;"

Did Abe Lincoln take that same oath before he suspended habeus corpus?

And I suspect a lot more people's "rights" were infringed upon by Lincoln.


There's not much I can do about Lincoln's actions, now is there?

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens
in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That
is an affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If
you don't understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving
your country in the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were
serving for. Thomas Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your
failure to understand. Then, he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for
another dressing-down.


Blah, blah, blah. So back to the question...

Which civil rights did you lose?


I haven't lost any, yet. But, as Fred pointed out....first they came for
the Jews.

So which of your Jewish friends lost their civil rights? And for that
matter, which of your Muslim friends have lost 'em?

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:26:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights.
NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have
taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all
citizens in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're
not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That is an
affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you
don't
understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your
country in
the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were serving for.
Thomas
Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your failure to understand.
Then,
he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for another dressing-down.


I asked which rights you'd lost, not which you were willing to give up.
You
implied the Patriot Act cost you civil rights. Well, back up your
statement, or else you just sound like Harry, another whiner.


Among other things, the Patriot Act (which you have not read from end to
end) includes meddling with habeas corpus. If one citizen loses that
right, every citizen loses that right.

Does this look familiar?

"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;"

Did Abe Lincoln take that same oath before he suspended habeus corpus?

And I suspect a lot more people's "rights" were infringed upon by
Lincoln.


There's not much I can do about Lincoln's actions, now is there?

Apparently there's not much you can do about Bush's actions either. At
least not for the next 18 months.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
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In message , John H.
sprach
forth the following:

Spending your money your way is the greatest civil
right you've got!

And W's budgets, unfunded mandates, unfunded liabilities and off-budget
wars have left you with far LESS money.

The war is not "off-budget". Bush's 2008 budget according to the CBO
includes $142 billion for Iraq, Afghanistan, and the war on terrorism.

But don't let facts get in your way. You're on a roll.

Fred's not too good with numbers.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:4j737357249rflpflh5sl6asgp84flio3d@4ax. com...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have
taken away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens
in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That
is an affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If
you don't understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving
your country in the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were
serving for. Thomas Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your
failure to understand. Then, he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for
another dressing-down.


Blah, blah, blah. So back to the question...

Which civil rights did you lose?


I haven't lost any, yet. But, as Fred pointed out....first they came for
the Jews.

So which of your Jewish friends lost their civil rights? And for that
matter, which of your Muslim friends have lost 'em?


Wrong questions.

One citizen THAT WE KNOW OF has been denied his rights. That means the door
is open for the government to pull the same stunt on anyone, for whatever
reason comes from a president who imagines he is the queen.

These things grant too much power. You probably won't understand the
potential for abuse because it's a little after 5:00 and you're about to
shut off your brain until tomorrow:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/orders/

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:44:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:26:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens
in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're
not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That is an
affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you don't
understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your country
in
the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were serving for.
Thomas
Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your failure to understand.
Then,
he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for another dressing-down.


I asked which rights you'd lost, not which you were willing to give up.
You
implied the Patriot Act cost you civil rights. Well, back up your
statement, or else you just sound like Harry, another whiner.


Among other things, the Patriot Act (which you have not read from end to
end) includes meddling with habeas corpus. If one citizen loses that right,
every citizen loses that right.

Does this look familiar?

"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;"


You, being such an expert on the Patriot Act, should have no trouble
whatsoever showing us the sentence which 'meddles with' you right of habeas
corpus.

Do so, or hush whining.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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Blah, blah, blah. So back to the question...

Which civil rights did you lose?


What the ....?
Your gov't will gleefully send you to Iraq or any other hell hole over there
but will toss your ass in prison for visiting Cuba.
Does that make sense?

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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You took that oath, at least according to your stories. How did it feel,
promising to defend something you were ignorant about? What did you
*think* you were defending? "The country"? That's just a piece of land,
like any other. What about the principles which you so easily dismiss as
trash?

"think" ?? John was in the army, an an officer to boot.

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:37:28 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens
in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That
is an affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you
don't understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your
country in the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were
serving for. Thomas Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your
failure to understand. Then, he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for
another dressing-down.


Blah, blah, blah. So back to the question...

Which civil rights did you lose?


I haven't lost any, yet. But, as Fred pointed out....first they came for the
Jews.

Thank you. No, they haven't come for the Jews yet. You just said you've not
lost any civil rights. Why use such a stupid analogy?