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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:00:16 -0700, wrote:

On Jun 14, 1:19 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Jun 14, 11:50 am, Gene Kearns
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There real story here might be that this law was smoke and mirrors and
if it isn't being used, it isn't really needed. The law requires the
FISA court to make the Order... but if the present administration
can't bring itself to use the FISA court, anyway, what's the point?

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Well if you are talking to me, and I think you are, I was commenting
on NOY... remarks about the Bush admin taking away civil rights. Still
waiting for real examples, that's all.

I see you're posting from google, which may explain the fact that you keep
missing messages that already answer your question. Start at the beginning
of this discussion and read every single message. The information is there
already. Asking people to post it repeatedly is annoying.- Hide quoted text -

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Well, a link would have probably have been quicker and less annoying
for you, I will annoy you no longer about this. Have at it guys.

Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:44:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:26:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have
taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens
in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're
not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That is an
affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you
don't
understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your
country
in
the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were serving for.
Thomas
Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your failure to understand.
Then,
he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for another dressing-down.


I asked which rights you'd lost, not which you were willing to give up.
You
implied the Patriot Act cost you civil rights. Well, back up your
statement, or else you just sound like Harry, another whiner.


Among other things, the Patriot Act (which you have not read from end to
end) includes meddling with habeas corpus. If one citizen loses that
right,
every citizen loses that right.

Does this look familiar?

"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic;
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;"


You, being such an expert on the Patriot Act, should have no trouble
whatsoever showing us the sentence which 'meddles with' you right of
habeas
corpus.

Do so, or hush whining.


You took that oath, at least according to your stories. How did it feel,
promising to defend something you were ignorant about? What did you think
you were defending? "The country"? That's just a piece of land, like any
other. What about the principles which you so easily dismiss as trash?

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.

Choose just one?

But what if you're mentally impaired and a traitor?

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

He *gave* you the right to spend a lot more of your money as you choose.

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:09:04 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.




Herring and three other "Americans" are still kissing Bush's ass.

Harry, you're such a cool guy! It's no wonder some folks get all
google-eyed when you respond to them.

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That is
an affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you
don't understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your
country in the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were serving
for. Thomas Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your failure to
understand. Then, he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for another
dressing-down.


Blah, blah, blah. So back to the question...

Which civil rights did you lose?

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens
in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That
is an affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you
don't understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your
country in the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were
serving for. Thomas Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your
failure to understand. Then, he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for
another dressing-down.


Blah, blah, blah. So back to the question...

Which civil rights did you lose?


I haven't lost any, yet. But, as Fred pointed out....first they came for the
Jews.

What makes you think anyone in government is perfect?

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:26:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens
in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If
you're
not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That is an
affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you don't
understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your country
in
the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were serving for.
Thomas
Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your failure to understand.
Then,
he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for another dressing-down.


I asked which rights you'd lost, not which you were willing to give up.
You
implied the Patriot Act cost you civil rights. Well, back up your
statement, or else you just sound like Harry, another whiner.


Among other things, the Patriot Act (which you have not read from end to
end) includes meddling with habeas corpus. If one citizen loses that
right, every citizen loses that right.

Does this look familiar?

"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;"

Did Abe Lincoln take that same oath before he suspended habeus corpus?

And I suspect a lot more people's "rights" were infringed upon by Lincoln.

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:26:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...


Bush didn't take away any civil rights. He *gave* civil rights. NOYB
would
not have said Bush took away our civil rights. Now, he may have taken
away
the civil rights of some terrorists, but that's a different story.

The Patriot Act meddles with civil rights established for all citizens in
the constitution. To disagree with this means you are either mentally
impaired, or a traitor to this country. Choose one.


And which of your civil rights did you lose?

You and others love to ask that question. It's the same as this: "If you're
not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about". That is an
affront to the principles on which this country was founded. If you don't
understand that, then 100% of what you've said about serving your country in
the military is a farce. You have no idea what you were serving for. Thomas
Jefferson would rip you a new asshole for your failure to understand. Then,
he'd send you to Benjamin Franklin for another dressing-down.


I asked which rights you'd lost, not which you were willing to give up. You
implied the Patriot Act cost you civil rights. Well, back up your
statement, or else you just sound like Harry, another whiner.


He *gave* you the right to spend a lot more of your money as you choose.

How about we let that line drop, OK?


How about we don't. Spending your money your way is the greatest civil
right you've got!

Liberal 9th Circuit Court ruling could kill boating
 

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , John H. sprach
forth the following:

Spending your money your way is the greatest civil
right you've got!

And W's budgets, unfunded mandates, unfunded liabilities and off-budget
wars have left you with far LESS money.

The war is not "off-budget". Bush's 2008 budget according to the CBO
includes $142 billion for Iraq, Afghanistan, and the war on terrorism.

But don't let facts get in your way. You're on a roll.