Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta
is s-l-o-w.
I was wondering if I should try it.
I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro
subscription.
I wish they could get it working.
However they are not the only one with vista probs.
Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX.

Regards,

BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no
time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats.

wrote:
Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta
is s-l-o-w.
I was wondering if I should try it.
I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro
subscription.
I wish they could get it working.
However they are not the only one with vista probs.
Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX.

Regards,

BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no
time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats.


Indeed it was.

I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went
to VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was
offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs,
plus the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I
tried a few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et
cetera, and right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm
using the 6.0 version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it
seems to be working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it
has a reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial.

I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six
months or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA.
When the retail version comes out, I'll look it over.

"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta
is s-l-o-w.
I was wondering if I should try it.
I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro
subscription.
I wish they could get it working.
However they are not the only one with vista probs.
Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX.

Regards,

BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no
time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats.


Indeed it was.

I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went to
VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was
offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs, plus
the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I tried a
few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et cetera, and
right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm using the 6.0
version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it seems to be
working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it has a
reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial.

I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six months
or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA. When the
retail version comes out, I'll look it over.


Does these other suites include a firewall which also:
****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****???

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta
is s-l-o-w.
I was wondering if I should try it.
I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro
subscription.
I wish they could get it working.
However they are not the only one with vista probs.
Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX.

Regards,

BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no
time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats.

Indeed it was.

I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went to
VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was
offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs, plus
the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I tried a
few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et cetera, and
right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm using the 6.0
version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it seems to be
working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it has a
reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial.

I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six months
or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA. When the
retail version comes out, I'll look it over.


Does these other suites include a firewall which also:
****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****???




Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For
some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not.
Weird, eh?

"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta
is s-l-o-w.
I was wondering if I should try it.
I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro
subscription.
I wish they could get it working.
However they are not the only one with vista probs.
Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX.

Regards,

BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no
time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats.

Indeed it was.

I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went
to VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was
offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs,
plus the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I
tried a few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et
cetera, and right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm
using the 6.0 version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it
seems to be working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it
has a reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial.

I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six
months or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA.
When the retail version comes out, I'll look it over.


Does these other suites include a firewall which also:
****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****???


Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For some
strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not. Weird, eh?

Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not
because there's anything compelling about them.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta
is s-l-o-w.
I was wondering if I should try it.
I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro
subscription.
I wish they could get it working.
However they are not the only one with vista probs.
Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX.

Regards,

BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no
time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats.

Indeed it was.

I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went
to VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was
offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs,
plus the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I
tried a few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et
cetera, and right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm
using the 6.0 version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it
seems to be working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it
has a reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial.

I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six
months or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA.
When the retail version comes out, I'll look it over.

Does these other suites include a firewall which also:
****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****???

Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For some
strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not. Weird, eh?

Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not
because there's anything compelling about them.




Ahh. Well, I have no regrets about leaving XP behind. I've been running
VISTA for months now, without one serious glitch. I have a lot of
hardware connected up, and tons of software, too, most of it holdovers
from XP or even Win2k. It all works.

I've read about a lot of the problems some others are having. The
majority seem to be related to users who install VISTA over an existing
earlier MS OS, now with those who did a clean install.

On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:29:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Does these other suites include a firewall which also:
****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****???


Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For some
strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not. Weird, eh?

Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not
because there's anything compelling about them.

The ZA outbound activity checks are part of what I consider normal
firewall security. So I guess you were talking about there not being
a "compelling" security reason to get Vista.
You'd a thunk such security would come with a ballyhooed new OS.
So I agree with Harry that it's weird. No. Shocking.

--Vic

On Sun, 27 May 2007 20:19:30 -0400, HK wrote:


Does these other suites include a firewall which also: ****CONTROLS
OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****???




Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For
some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not.
Weird, eh?

I believe outbound filtering is turned off by default, but it's there if
you are willing to jump through Billy's hoops.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0106.mspx

thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 20:19:30 -0400, HK wrote:


Does these other suites include a firewall which also: ****CONTROLS
OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****???



Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For
some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not.
Weird, eh?

I believe outbound filtering is turned off by default, but it's there if
you are willing to jump through Billy's hoops.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0106.mspx


That's a lotta work and it seems to presuppose you know which ports and
services every "outbound" wants. It's surprising MS simply didn't
license an in/out firewall. Well, as I mentioned, the Kaspersky internet
security suite covers that ground, and it has a decent interface.

HK wrote:
wrote:
Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta
is s-l-o-w.
I was wondering if I should try it.
I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro
subscription.
I wish they could get it working.
However they are not the only one with vista probs.
Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX.

Regards,

BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no
time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats.


Indeed it was.

I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went
to VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was
offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs,
plus the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I
tried a few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et
cetera, and right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm
using the 6.0 version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it
seems to be working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it
has a reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial.

I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six
months or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA.
When the retail version comes out, I'll look it over.


It does look like Vista is more trouble than it is worth. This is the
reason why some mfg'ers are now offering XP on their new machines.