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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta is s-l-o-w. I was wondering if I should try it. I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro subscription. I wish they could get it working. However they are not the only one with vista probs. Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX. Regards, BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats. Indeed it was. I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went to VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs, plus the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I tried a few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et cetera, and right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm using the 6.0 version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it seems to be working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it has a reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial. I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six months or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA. When the retail version comes out, I'll look it over. Does these other suites include a firewall which also: ****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****??? Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not. Weird, eh? Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not because there's anything compelling about them. Ahh. Well, I have no regrets about leaving XP behind. I've been running VISTA for months now, without one serious glitch. I have a lot of hardware connected up, and tons of software, too, most of it holdovers from XP or even Win2k. It all works. I've read about a lot of the problems some others are having. The majority seem to be related to users who install VISTA over an existing earlier MS OS, now with those who did a clean install. |
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"HK" wrote in message
... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta is s-l-o-w. I was wondering if I should try it. I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro subscription. I wish they could get it working. However they are not the only one with vista probs. Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX. Regards, BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats. Indeed it was. I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went to VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs, plus the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I tried a few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et cetera, and right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm using the 6.0 version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it seems to be working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it has a reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial. I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six months or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA. When the retail version comes out, I'll look it over. Does these other suites include a firewall which also: ****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****??? Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not. Weird, eh? Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not because there's anything compelling about them. Ahh. Well, I have no regrets about leaving XP behind. I've been running VISTA for months now, without one serious glitch. I have a lot of hardware connected up, and tons of software, too, most of it holdovers from XP or even Win2k. It all works. I've read about a lot of the problems some others are having. The majority seem to be related to users who install VISTA over an existing earlier MS OS, now with those who did a clean install. And yet, MS could not find a reason to equip the OS with a correctly designed firewall. There is no debate that if a firewall does not protect against outbound nonsense, it is junk. |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:29:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Does these other suites include a firewall which also: ****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****??? Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not. Weird, eh? Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not because there's anything compelling about them. The ZA outbound activity checks are part of what I consider normal firewall security. So I guess you were talking about there not being a "compelling" security reason to get Vista. You'd a thunk such security would come with a ballyhooed new OS. So I agree with Harry that it's weird. No. Shocking. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:29:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Does these other suites include a firewall which also: ****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****??? Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not. Weird, eh? Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not because there's anything compelling about them. The ZA outbound activity checks are part of what I consider normal firewall security. So I guess you were talking about there not being a "compelling" security reason to get Vista. You'd a thunk such security would come with a ballyhooed new OS. So I agree with Harry that it's weird. No. Shocking. --Vic Yes, especially considering that outbound antics are the trademark of some of the worst computer threats. I think some of MS' products are works of art, and examples of magnificent programming (Excel, for instance), but in the area of security, the company is truly pathetic. |
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but in the area of security, the company is truly pathetic.
Agreed! --Mike "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:29:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HK" wrote in message om... Does these other suites include a firewall which also: ****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****??? Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not. Weird, eh? Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not because there's anything compelling about them. The ZA outbound activity checks are part of what I consider normal firewall security. So I guess you were talking about there not being a "compelling" security reason to get Vista. You'd a thunk such security would come with a ballyhooed new OS. So I agree with Harry that it's weird. No. Shocking. --Vic Yes, especially considering that outbound antics are the trademark of some of the worst computer threats. I think some of MS' products are works of art, and examples of magnificent programming (Excel, for instance), but in the area of security, the company is truly pathetic. |
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