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On Sun, 27 May 2007 20:09:01 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
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What about Building 7? Fire caused that one to fall down too?


Building 7 contained a command center for the City of New York as well
as a number of large data centers and trading floors. All of them had
stand by diesel generators and large amounts of stored diesel fuel.
The building interior caught fire from flaming debris when the north
tower came down. Eventually the stored diesel fuel caught fire also
which overwhelmed the steel skeletal structure.


Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.


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Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.


You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.

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Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.


You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?


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On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:31 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
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Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.


You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?


Supported by steel beams.

Moron.
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, KLC Lewis wrote:


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not
exactly the same thing is it?


You might want to look at the following pictures. It doesn't look like
the steel held up very well.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/art.../a/2007/04/29/
BAGVOPHQU46.DTL


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On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, KLC Lewis wrote:


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not
exactly the same thing is it?


You might want to look at the following pictures. It doesn't look like
the steel held up very well.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/art.../a/2007/04/29/
BAGVOPHQU46.DTL


You mean - no - any controlled demolitions expert will tell you that
bridges are built of steel reinforced concrete - that's why they fall
straight down. And they can't melt because diesel fuel isn't hot
enough - ask any controlled demolitions expert.

And further more, according to Rosie O'Donnell (a highly respected
controlled demolitions expert), WTC 7 fell at the speed of gravity!!!
That can only happen with controlled demolition just like any
demolitions expert will tell you.

God these people are morons.
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
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... diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.



Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?




Quite so: concrete clad steel has a much better fire-rating than bare
steel. Stout timber columns have better resistance than bare steel,
for that matter.
But the achilles heel of concrete reinforced with steel is at the
fixings. Bare steel.....

Brian Whatcott Altus OK
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:31 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
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Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.


You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?


Steel is steel, heat it hot enough, it weakens. The evidence is there
for all to see.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:31 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.

You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?


Steel is steel, heat it hot enough, it weakens. The evidence is there
for all to see.


Exactly so. Thermite would do it -- diesel would not. The evidence is there
for all to see.


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On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:18:32 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
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Thermite would do it -- diesel would not.


Nonsense.



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