On May 23, 12:29 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 9:48 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On 23 May 2007 08:28:54 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
On May 22, 11:12 pm, "RCE" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" debates with Charlie Morgan in
ooglegroups.com...
If you access Yachtworld and search for listing #61889-1563030 you
will find a 36-foot Grand Banks Classic. This single engine GB has an
engine rated at 210-HP.
Overpowered, go-fast boat!.
Mrs. E's. 36 GB Classic is powered by a single, 120 hp diesel.
Eisboch
And had the original owner opted for twins instead, you'd see a pair
of 120 HP diesels in there, not a pair of 60's or 75's.
Aside from the ****-slinging about size of twins, I've noticed while
reading the journal of a sailing cat circumnavigating that he normally
powers on one engine, alternating which is being used to keep the
hours on them about the same. This cat has twin diesels and a 25'
beam, so I suppose the rudder torque isn't an issue. For docking both
screws are used.
Would a trawler with twins normally power using both engines?
Taking the question of twins out of the realm of speed and into
a fuel miserly usage puts a different light on twins.
What's your experience with twins in a trawler?

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Long range passage makers routinely run only one engine in a twin
screw trawler.
In my experience, observation, and conversations most local cruisers
just out for a weekend run won't bother to do so.

Some transmissions are more forgiving of "freewheeling" than others,
while in other cases it's necessary to physically brake the idle shaft
to prevent transmission damage.

Chuck apparently knows quite a bit about freewheeling trannies...- Hide quoted text -

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Other posters are more frequently associated with loose nuts.

How about that lobsta boat, Harry? Single or twin?

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 12:29 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 9:48 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On 23 May 2007 08:28:54 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:
On May 22, 11:12 pm, "RCE" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" debates with Charlie Morgan in
ooglegroups.com...
If you access Yachtworld and search for listing #61889-1563030 you
will find a 36-foot Grand Banks Classic. This single engine GB has an
engine rated at 210-HP.
Overpowered, go-fast boat!.
Mrs. E's. 36 GB Classic is powered by a single, 120 hp diesel.
Eisboch
And had the original owner opted for twins instead, you'd see a pair
of 120 HP diesels in there, not a pair of 60's or 75's.
Aside from the ****-slinging about size of twins, I've noticed while
reading the journal of a sailing cat circumnavigating that he normally
powers on one engine, alternating which is being used to keep the
hours on them about the same. This cat has twin diesels and a 25'
beam, so I suppose the rudder torque isn't an issue. For docking both
screws are used.
Would a trawler with twins normally power using both engines?
Taking the question of twins out of the realm of speed and into
a fuel miserly usage puts a different light on twins.
What's your experience with twins in a trawler?
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Long range passage makers routinely run only one engine in a twin
screw trawler.
In my experience, observation, and conversations most local cruisers
just out for a weekend run won't bother to do so.
Some transmissions are more forgiving of "freewheeling" than others,
while in other cases it's necessary to physically brake the idle shaft
to prevent transmission damage.
Chuck apparently knows quite a bit about freewheeling trannies...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Other posters are more frequently associated with loose nuts.

How about that lobsta boat, Harry? Single or twin?



Twin diesels? You must be insane.

On May 23, 1:14 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 12:29 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 9:48 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On 23 May 2007 08:28:54 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:
On May 22, 11:12 pm, "RCE" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" debates with Charlie Morgan in
ooglegroups.com...
If you access Yachtworld and search for listing #61889-1563030 you
will find a 36-foot Grand Banks Classic. This single engine GB has an
engine rated at 210-HP.
Overpowered, go-fast boat!.
Mrs. E's. 36 GB Classic is powered by a single, 120 hp diesel.
Eisboch
And had the original owner opted for twins instead, you'd see a pair
of 120 HP diesels in there, not a pair of 60's or 75's.
Aside from the ****-slinging about size of twins, I've noticed while
reading the journal of a sailing cat circumnavigating that he normally
powers on one engine, alternating which is being used to keep the
hours on them about the same. This cat has twin diesels and a 25'
beam, so I suppose the rudder torque isn't an issue. For docking both
screws are used.
Would a trawler with twins normally power using both engines?
Taking the question of twins out of the realm of speed and into
a fuel miserly usage puts a different light on twins.
What's your experience with twins in a trawler?
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Long range passage makers routinely run only one engine in a twin
screw trawler.
In my experience, observation, and conversations most local cruisers
just out for a weekend run won't bother to do so.
Some transmissions are more forgiving of "freewheeling" than others,
while in other cases it's necessary to physically brake the idle shaft
to prevent transmission damage.
Chuck apparently knows quite a bit about freewheeling trannies...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Other posters are more frequently associated with loose nuts.

How about that lobsta boat, Harry? Single or twin?

Twin diesels? You must be insane.- Hide quoted text -

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"Insane" to put twin diesels in a lobsta boat?

You might tell that to the folks building the EastBay series over at
American Marine. (GB) I don't think you can even get one of those with
a single diesel.

So, is this an affirmation that your lobsta boat is a single engine
diesel?

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 1:14 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 12:29 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 9:48 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On 23 May 2007 08:28:54 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:
On May 22, 11:12 pm, "RCE" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" debates with Charlie Morgan in
ooglegroups.com...
If you access Yachtworld and search for listing #61889-1563030 you
will find a 36-foot Grand Banks Classic. This single engine GB has an
engine rated at 210-HP.
Overpowered, go-fast boat!.
Mrs. E's. 36 GB Classic is powered by a single, 120 hp diesel.
Eisboch
And had the original owner opted for twins instead, you'd see a pair
of 120 HP diesels in there, not a pair of 60's or 75's.
Aside from the ****-slinging about size of twins, I've noticed while
reading the journal of a sailing cat circumnavigating that he normally
powers on one engine, alternating which is being used to keep the
hours on them about the same. This cat has twin diesels and a 25'
beam, so I suppose the rudder torque isn't an issue. For docking both
screws are used.
Would a trawler with twins normally power using both engines?
Taking the question of twins out of the realm of speed and into
a fuel miserly usage puts a different light on twins.
What's your experience with twins in a trawler?
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Long range passage makers routinely run only one engine in a twin
screw trawler.
In my experience, observation, and conversations most local cruisers
just out for a weekend run won't bother to do so.
Some transmissions are more forgiving of "freewheeling" than others,
while in other cases it's necessary to physically brake the idle shaft
to prevent transmission damage.
Chuck apparently knows quite a bit about freewheeling trannies...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Other posters are more frequently associated with loose nuts.
How about that lobsta boat, Harry? Single or twin?
Twin diesels? You must be insane.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Insane" to put twin diesels in a lobsta boat?

You might tell that to the folks building the EastBay series over at
American Marine. (GB) I don't think you can even get one of those with
a single diesel.

So, is this an affirmation that your lobsta boat is a single engine
diesel?


Those aren't lobster boats. Those are blue plate specials. Most lobster
boats built for pleasure cruisers have a single diesel for propulsion,
as do most lobster boat workboats. Some owners have gone to the expense
of having a way to rig the generator as a "get home" engine,

On 23 May 2007 17:35:59 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

"Insane" to put twin diesels in a lobsta boat?

Not related to diesels, but the current discussion in my brain (I
often talk to myself you understand) is about the new boat and whether
I want twin outboards or a single outboard.

My options are go with a 200 hp single or two 150 HO ETECS.

What do you think?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 23 May 2007 17:35:59 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

"Insane" to put twin diesels in a lobsta boat?

Not related to diesels, but the current discussion in my brain (I
often talk to myself you understand) is about the new boat and whether
I want twin outboards or a single outboard.

My options are go with a 200 hp single or two 150 HO ETECS.

What do you think?


What new boat?

How does the prospective new boat perform with a single engine?
Is that performance satisfactory? If it is, you don't need twin engines.

Does the new boat have a bracket that allows "permanent" attachment of
an auxiliary outboard? If it does, that's the smart, economical answer.
A lot of Parkers and Grady Whites around here have a single large four
cycle outboard and a 10 to 20 hp four cycle outboard on bracket for
trolling and for a "spare" get home engine.

Why anyone would buy a new boat with twin gas engines when gas is
selling for $3.50 a gallon or more is beyond me.

On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:15:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 23 May 2007 17:35:59 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

"Insane" to put twin diesels in a lobsta boat?

Not related to diesels, but the current discussion in my brain (I
often talk to myself you understand) is about the new boat and whether
I want twin outboards or a single outboard.

My options are go with a 200 hp single or two 150 HO ETECS.

What do you think?


What new boat?

How does the prospective new boat perform with a single engine?
Is that performance satisfactory? If it is, you don't need twin engines.

Does the new boat have a bracket that allows "permanent" attachment of
an auxiliary outboard? If it does, that's the smart, economical answer.
A lot of Parkers and Grady Whites around here have a single large four
cycle outboard and a 10 to 20 hp four cycle outboard on bracket for
trolling and for a "spare" get home engine.

Why anyone would buy a new boat with twin gas engines when gas is
selling for $3.50 a gallon or more is beyond me.

Probably because when you add up the total cost of ownership for a new
boat with twin 150 etecs, the difference between say $2.50 and $3.50 a
gallon for gas really is a small, almost insignificant percentage of
that cost. Gas is a cost that's disproportionately noticable though.

Steve

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 12:29 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 9:48 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On 23 May 2007 08:28:54 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:
On May 22, 11:12 pm, "RCE" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" debates with Charlie Morgan in
ooglegroups.com...
If you access Yachtworld and search for listing #61889-1563030 you
will find a 36-foot Grand Banks Classic. This single engine GB has an
engine rated at 210-HP.
Overpowered, go-fast boat!.
Mrs. E's. 36 GB Classic is powered by a single, 120 hp diesel.
Eisboch
And had the original owner opted for twins instead, you'd see a pair
of 120 HP diesels in there, not a pair of 60's or 75's.
Aside from the ****-slinging about size of twins, I've noticed while
reading the journal of a sailing cat circumnavigating that he normally
powers on one engine, alternating which is being used to keep the
hours on them about the same. This cat has twin diesels and a 25'
beam, so I suppose the rudder torque isn't an issue. For docking both
screws are used.
Would a trawler with twins normally power using both engines?
Taking the question of twins out of the realm of speed and into
a fuel miserly usage puts a different light on twins.
What's your experience with twins in a trawler?
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Long range passage makers routinely run only one engine in a twin
screw trawler.
In my experience, observation, and conversations most local cruisers
just out for a weekend run won't bother to do so.
Some transmissions are more forgiving of "freewheeling" than others,
while in other cases it's necessary to physically brake the idle shaft
to prevent transmission damage.
Chuck apparently knows quite a bit about freewheeling trannies...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Other posters are more frequently associated with loose nuts.

How about that lobsta boat, Harry? Single or twin?



IT's been fun watching you devolve into a cheap man's Skipper.
Something awful happening in your life?

On May 23, 1:43 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 12:29 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 23, 9:48 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On 23 May 2007 08:28:54 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:
On May 22, 11:12 pm, "RCE" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" debates with Charlie Morgan in
ooglegroups.com...
If you access Yachtworld and search for listing #61889-1563030 you
will find a 36-foot Grand Banks Classic. This single engine GB has an
engine rated at 210-HP.
Overpowered, go-fast boat!.
Mrs. E's. 36 GB Classic is powered by a single, 120 hp diesel.
Eisboch
And had the original owner opted for twins instead, you'd see a pair
of 120 HP diesels in there, not a pair of 60's or 75's.
Aside from the ****-slinging about size of twins, I've noticed while
reading the journal of a sailing cat circumnavigating that he normally
powers on one engine, alternating which is being used to keep the
hours on them about the same. This cat has twin diesels and a 25'
beam, so I suppose the rudder torque isn't an issue. For docking both
screws are used.
Would a trawler with twins normally power using both engines?
Taking the question of twins out of the realm of speed and into
a fuel miserly usage puts a different light on twins.
What's your experience with twins in a trawler?
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Long range passage makers routinely run only one engine in a twin
screw trawler.
In my experience, observation, and conversations most local cruisers
just out for a weekend run won't bother to do so.
Some transmissions are more forgiving of "freewheeling" than others,
while in other cases it's necessary to physically brake the idle shaft
to prevent transmission damage.
Chuck apparently knows quite a bit about freewheeling trannies...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Other posters are more frequently associated with loose nuts.

How about that lobsta boat, Harry? Single or twin?

IT's been fun watching you devolve into a cheap man's Skipper.
Something awful happening in your life?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Short of fielding unprovoked BS from you, absolutely not. Then again,
that's not "awful", it's just pitiful to watch you exrtend your self
hatred and loathing to the world around you.