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Default Insightful former leftist: BushPelosi's Amnesty for Illegals = NATIONAL SUICIDE

On May 20, 9:18 am, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer
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The following is from an online forum I don't normally ever read but was
found in a newsgroup. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST PERCEPTIVE COMMENTARIES AND
GUIDES FOR ACTION REGARDING THE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRISIS THAT I'VE EVER SEEN.

PLEASE CONSIDER PASSING IT ALONG TO OTHERS.

THE COUNTRY YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN.
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STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!
05-17-2007

Posted on 05/16/2007 by Cacique

Many of you who know me from either my pings or past posts and FReeps may
know that I do not post that often since I have been here. But recent
events and what appears to be a penchant by the elites to ram changes in
law and the constitution down our throats, regardless of the fact that most
Americans oppose such changes has prompted me to write this about an issue
I think is critical to the both the long term and short term future of this
country. I am of course speaking of that farce in the senate under the
guise of reform, but which is in reality a mass amnesty for people who are
here illegally. Many who arguably mean to do harm to this country.

To begin with, I feel I must tell you a bit about myself and my credentials
on this subject so that you understand why I urge you to act now.

I am a legal immigrant to this country who arrived here on my 10th birthday
with my parents in April of 1962. I was born in Latin America and I am
tri-lingual and fluent in all three languages I speak. Spanish is of course
one of them. Things were different way back then, at least as far as
immigration laws were concerned. My parents and I had to wait several years
to be given permission to emigrate here. At that time I had both an Uncle
and an Aunt living in the Unites States, a sister and a brother of my
mother's. It was her wish to join them that convinced my father to move
here although initially he was against it. Since there was no family
reunification at the time he had to get someone else to vouch for him (so
he wouldn't become a vagrant dependent on the state) and obtain employment
before coming here before he would even be allowed to emigrate. My father
should have had an edge due to the fact that he had served with US forces
during World War II under the command of US officers in what were then
known as "Slavonic" Divisions. None of that mattered, he had to stand in
line like everyone else.

I could bore you with more details but I simply bring these things up as a
reference point to what follows.

I am a political scientist by training a PhD Candidate at the CUNY graduate
Center, otherwise known as an ABD. I have been involved in numerous
political campaigns starting with Giuliani's first run for mayor (a race he
lost to Dinkins). I have run assembly campaigns, a US Senate campaign and a
US Congressional campaign. I have been active in politics for all of my
adult life and have traveled the ideological road from being a committed
Marxist and Stalinist in my College years to being a staunch conservative
republican today. I think I know a thing or two about politics and what
makes both people on the left and the right tick.

I am familiar with Latin culture not only from an academic perspective, but
also from an interactive one, as I interact with all my fellow Latinos each
and very day. I know what they think and I know what their attitudes are as
they will tell me things they will not tell outsiders. a couple of years
ago I posted a piece by Sam Huntington that I believe is a must read by all
here.

Fast forward to the present and I currently live in a section in Brooklyn,
New York that is by all accounts a major focus of illegal immigrants.
Mostly from Mexico, Ecuador and San Salvador with a sprinkling of
Dominicans and even Chinese illegals.

Very briefly I will tell you that if there is an amnesty in this country
America as we know will cease to exist in less than a generation. I am
totally dismayed that many countries in the West have opted to commit
national suicide and we seem to have decided to join them.

The elites in Washington have decided that their short term interests trump
the long term interests of the nation. The issue of immigration is NOT a
democratic or republican issue. IT IS a national issue. The supporters of
amnesty have narrow interests that are either economic or political short
term interests without having given any thought whatsoever. The crowd in
Washington goes to the same clubs, eats in the same restaurants, live in
gated communities and socialize with other members of the financial and
political elites. Any negative impacts on the society at large they tend to
be immune from. It is clear there is a faction that is hell bent on
depressing wages and attract cheap manual labor in order to compete with
third world hellholes. At the same time the catholic church is salivating
at the prospect of filling the pews and collection baskets in their
churches. The activists in the democratic party are salivating at the
prospect of another underclass they can control and exploit. All these
forces have coalesced to bring about the present situation. Polls have been
consistent in that over 68% of american voters oppose amnesty to illegal
immigrants. Over 60% of union households oppose amnesty. Yet the elites are
in total disconnect with this because they have decided the public can do
nothing to stop them and will likely not do anything to penalize them
later. What matters to them is the fact that corporate donors who fund
their campaigns have made no bones about the fact that they want an
amnesty, or more precisely they demand one.

A few myths

The excuses to support amnesty are many and varied. One is that most of
these hispanics are family oriented and will become conservative. The real
fact is that most illegals come from the poverty stricken lower classes.
Many have relationships and children out of wedlock. The catholicism they
practice is much closer to the "liberation theology" variant which is
nothing more than Marxism with a God. They bring with them a deep class
resentment of not only the wealthy but the middle classes and a racist
resentment of whites. Latin American Christianity is also a heavy admixture
of traditional pre-colombian gods and elements and would be totally
unrecognizable to catholics here. The church pretends all these people are
catholics so they can claim their numbers.

Democrats have a delusion that they will be able to manipulate them and
garner their votes. Activists in their community are very much aware of
this. Most latin american marxists are much closer to the stalinist type
than the fashionista left in this country who is leftist because it's the
fashion of their peers. Latinos who are marxists, are committed doctrinaire
marxists much closer to the Cuban or North Korean model. They have little
use for rich white kids who want to be weekend revolutionaries. They also
understand that they have a greater chance of projecting power and
influence if they keep their communities in control and separate. I had
expected them to demand schools exclusively in spanish but they were beaten
by the muslims by a hair here in brooklyn. The Madrasa in brooklyn may have
been delayed but it is only a matter of time before the demands will
surface again. Accusations of cultural imperialism and racism will be
lodged against those that demand they assimilate. The "community leaders"
know full well that any assimilation is a dilution of their power,
therefore they will promote the opposite.

Any comparisons between immigrants of today and those of yesteryear are
irrelevant. They were different times and the world was quite different. In
1900 an immigrant to America came on a one way trip, he knew he was not
going back. Entire villages collected money for the trip to send one of
their own. Passage meant at least a year's wages even in steerage. Today's
immigrant is a cheap plane ticked and a few hours away from home. He
arrives to a country where he can feel at home in an insular community
where his language is spoken. There are radio and television stations
available in his own language as well as newspapers and magazines. Mass
communications means he is just a phone call away from speaking to his
friends back home. The economies of scale make all of this possible in
today's world. Today's immigrant is helped by modern technology to feel
like he is home in any community of his compatriots abroad. And should he
feel homesick it takes only a couple of week's wages and a plane ticket to
return home for a visit. None of these things were available to the
immigrant a century ago. Another difference is that the immigrant of a
century ago came mostly from Western countries to another western country
the main difference being the food and language from where he came from.

Latin America is nominally Western. The western portion resides in the main
cities and among the educated. In most countries with the possible
exception of Argentina and Brazil the indigenous cultures that were found
by the conquistadores still exist in stark contrast to what one finds in
the cities. It is those who are predominantly the "mojados" that one finds
in this country, not the country club upper class that Bush hob nobs with.

Two things happened in Spain in 1492. One was the trip by Cristobal Colon.
The other was the final conquest of Andalus. The inquisition was organized
mainly to reconvert all those souls who were under islam for 700 years. The
result is that many of the conquistadores who came here were a generation
away from being muslims. They brought with them a world view much closer to
islam than the view of a sophisticated catholic from Italy. The concepts of
machismo, guerra sin cuarto, Caudillismo etc. are elements from the islamic
period that remained a part of spanish culture in Latin America. There are
a lot of parallels between Latin American culture in it's conservatism and
what one would find in the middle east. This is something that needs to be
kept in mind.

Assimilation is not a guaranteed phenomenon. We have currently numerous
groups that have as yet not assimilated even though they have been here for
over a century. I can think of the Hasidic jews for starters, or the Amish,
or perhaps the Hutterites. The only difference is that their theology has
nothing in it that compels them to try to conquer our lands and convert us.

Demographics

I don't think I need to write much on the birth rate factor. One can search
all over the net to see the statistics. Muslims and illegals are the
fastest reproducing segment of the population. As the population shifts and
new groups become more numerous the power center will shift. The losers?
Indigenous american indians, caucasians and blacks.

There is the lie that there are only 12 million illegals in this country.
That number keeps getting thrown around as if is gospel. The fact is that
we have no clue how many are here. If one takes the estimate that ten years
ago there were 10,000 crossings a day at the border and extrapolates 3.5
million illegals a year then we can rest assured the 12 million figure is
totally wrong. It could be as high as 35 million or even as high as 70
million. Do a search on the web and you will see that all the claims could
be valid. remember the last amnesty in 1984? I do. We were promised that
they would secure the borders, that the amnesty would mean that fewer
people would come and that we would enforce immigration laws. Of course it
was all naive and a pipe dream. Think this amnesty will stop more people
coming? You haven't seen anything yet. Once people all over the world get
wind of what a bunch of chumps we are they will come over in droves like we
have never seen. You can't feed a crocodile and expect it to be satisfied
with a morsel.

The losers

So who will lose if there's amnesty? Oddly enough most of the big losers
are part of the grand democratic coalition. Union workers, their leaders
only see more members, the rank and file will fall to depressed wages and
downward pressures in their standard of living. Blacks will lose influence
as a group and will be played off against the emerging mexican hispanic
power block. Their population which reached a peak of 14% of the population
is in decline and will continue to decline as illegals have more children.
Women will find that the male dominated culture of machismo and the
misogynist muslim outlook will make for interesting times in the future.
Gays will find much less tolerance among Latinos and Muslims for their
lifestyle, even from the left. They ought to get an idea at how gays are
treated in Cuba to get a hint. The middle class as always will face
increasing taxation to pay for all the programs and services that will be
demanded by the new majorities. The elderly will find that most of the new
workers brought in to prop up the welfare state will have little tolerance
to pay for those on the retirement dole. That will have implications in the
near future. Other hispanics, in particular Puerto Ricans and Dominicans
who will find themselves elbowed out by the Mexicans. This phenomenon is
already happening in the hispanic caucus and other national hispanic
organizations where the divisions among hispanics are coming into the open.
For many hispanics who are second and third generation americans the
honeymoon is begriming to come to an end. Jews will find perhaps a rise in
anti semitism. Latin America is home to a particularly virulent form that
rears it's ugly head quite often. Ingrained in Spanish catholicism and fed
by marxist solidarity for arabs it will always be there under the surface.
Republicans and Conservatives we will be the biggest losers in this game.
Most of the activists among the Mecha and Aztlan types are already forging
alliances with radicals in the muslim community. We may get a few new
republicans from these new immigrants, but the reality is that the class
and race hatred that many of them bring with them will likely be passed on
to new generations as they are in most groups.

The next stage

I could go on and write a dissertation on the subject, but that is not my
purpose nor is there time for that. One side argues that we can;'t get rid
of all illegals in this country. I believe they are wrong. They don't want
to get rid of the illegals here. There was a time not long ago, about 15
years ago that New York was home to one of the largest communities of
illegal Irish immigrants. It was estimated at the time there were upwards
of half a million illegal irish immigrants in New York. An interesting
thing happened though. It was the Irish miracle, the economy took a turn
North and opportunities were everywhere. The result is that almost all of
those half million illegals returned home. It was a matter of incentive. If
you make it difficult for illegals to work in this country and punish those
who hire them I guarantee you will see the phenomenon repeated again.

What is to be done?

In 1902 V.I. Lenin published a pamphlet entitled "What is To Be Done?" it
was a blueprint for his political ideas on taking power. In a way, we need
our own approach to this problem. The issue of immigration is an issue that
affects all of us in a very likely negative way far beyond our political
ideologies if we are Americans. We need to reach out and awaken all those
groups that do not currently see the urgency but who will be adversely
affected by the coming changes. We need a coalition of the unlikely.

We need to reach out to rank and file workers, both union and outside. This
has to be a grassroots mobilization made up of individuals rather than a
national organization. American Hispanics born here must understand that
they are about to be elbowed out and will lose big time. Gays must
understand that if they think Jerry Falwell was bad for them, they haven't
seen intolerance yet. Women must understand that any gains they may have
had with regards to the workplace and society can be swept away just as
easily as they have been put in place. Jews must understand that the rising
anti semitism will get worse, not better.

A postage stamp an envelope and e-mail

In politics as in economics, perception is reality. The level of commitment
by an opponent is gauged by his determination and how much he is willing to
invest in opposing something. The anti-amnesty crowd has not been very
successful because they have been disorganized and have been painted as
racists and bigots as the Minutemen have. You cannot give them a target to
latch onto. Responding to such attacks gives only credence to the attacker.
This has to be totally a citizen to citizen uprising. If you know other
Hispanics who oppose amnesty contact the. Have Black friends? Explain to
them how they stand to lose out (they know already) start networking. Call
all your acquaintances and friends and send them e-mails. Fear is a great
motivator, it is the one thing that moves people to action and motivates
them to show up at the polls.

DO NOT JUST SEND EMAILS TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR. For the most part
they get deleted as spam and don't have much impact. It also shows a lack
of commitment and that you are lazy. INSTEAD INVEST IN POSTAGE STAMPS.
There is nothing more impressive than postal service trucks showing up at
congress with bags full of envelopes with paper mail.

USE THE PHONES, CALL AND CLOG THEIR LINES. ONA CELLPHONE A CALL TO
WASHINGTON IS A LOCAL CALL. Faxes are a waste of time. There is a physical
limit to how many faxes a fax machine can receive.

FReerepublic is the right place to start this. But we must reach out from
beyond our narrow confines. Beyond conservatives, beyond republicans,
beyond democrats.

Do this as if your future depends on it, because it does.

Do this as if your children's future depends on it, because it does.

Do this as if the nation's future depends on it, because it does.

SEND AN ENVELOPE WITH A PERSONAL LETTER TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN, YOUR SENATOR.
CALL THE LOCAL COUNTY LEADERS. DON'T LIMIT IT TO WASHINGTON, CALL THE LOCAL
POLITICIANS AS WELL. THE GOVERNOR OF YOUR STATE ETC.

YOU MUST RAISE HELL!! THE ONLY WAY TO BE HEARD IS TO YELL.

Source:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834958/posts
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PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:

"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonaldwww.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

http://www.PredatoryAliens.comwww.Im...a lAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:www.ImmigrationCounters.com
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"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")

-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
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"How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico"
By John Dillinhttp://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

Excerpt:

"General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: 'The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."

"Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.

"America 'was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,' Mr. Brownell said. 'When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.'"
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Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:www.DeputyDavidMarch.comwww.KrisEggle.org

"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."

-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams

""All great truths begin as heresies."

-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens



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