Chuck Gould wrote:
:What's in it?

:So, if there are no toxins, no chemicals, no phosphates, no
:detergents, and no nitrates in Latitude 43, what makes it work?
:According to the label, USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
:saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
:vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
:vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils. The

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

"David Scheidt" wrote in message
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Chuck Gould wrote:
:What's in it?

:So, if there are no toxins, no chemicals, no phosphates, no
:detergents, and no nitrates in Latitude 43, what makes it work?
:According to the label, USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
:saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
:vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
:vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils. The

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

But it is organic..............like
Tofu..............ahaaaahhhhuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmm.

When long chain fatty acids are 'saponified'in a strong alkali solution,
the result is 'soap', which is the alkali salt of acids of the natural
fats. Therefore, the 'saponified coconut oil' forms the alkali base of
the cleaner.
JR

David Scheidt wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
:What's in it?

:So, if there are no toxins, no chemicals, no phosphates, no
:detergents, and no nitrates in Latitude 43, what makes it work?
:According to the label, USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
:saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
:vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
:vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils. The

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".


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On May 19, 8:03 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

:What's in it?

:So, if there are no toxins, no chemicals, no phosphates, no
:detergents, and no nitrates in Latitude 43, what makes it work?
:According to the label, USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
:saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
:vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
:vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils. The

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Yes indeed, but not "detergent," and there's nothing petroleum based.
Even the so-called "biodegradable" boat washes use a lot of petroleum
products. As the name of the product is "Latitude 43 Organic Boat
Soap", one could realistically expect to find some soap in there
someplace.

I'm scheduled to call a guy next week who is one of the enforcement
officers with the
city's Department of Public Utilities and also has a degree in
chemistry. I have a second-hand report that he has done an analysis on
this specific stuff and was very pleased and surprised at what he
*didn't* find in it. I need to verify this report by speaking to him
directly, but it doesn't require a chemist to see that this stuff is
different from most other cleaners. If nothing else, the lack of suds
is remarkable- and the results are first class.

On May 20, 4:40 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Yes indeed, but not "detergent,"

It cleans, so by definition it's detergent. The claim to not consume
oxygen in the water is ridiculous.

On May 20, 4:21 pm, wrote:
On May 20, 4:40 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Yes indeed, but not "detergent,"

It cleans, so by definition it's detergent. The claim to not consume
oxygen in the water is ridiculous.

I believe that the oxygen claim is based on the fact that there aren't
any nitrates or phosphates in the formula. Nitrogen and phosphorous
are two of the primary ingredients in commercial fertilizer, and when
introduced to the water can promote "algae blooms". As I understand
it, when the algae finishes blooming and dies the decomposing organic
matter depletes oxygen in the water.

You define all soap products as detergents? (just curious)

On May 21, 8:56 am, Chuck Gould wrote:

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Yes indeed, but not "detergent,"

It cleans, so by definition it's detergent. The claim to not consume
oxygen in the water is ridiculous.

I believe that the oxygen claim is based on the fact that there aren't
any nitrates or phosphates in the formula. Nitrogen and phosphorous
are two of the primary ingredients in commercial fertilizer, and when
introduced to the water can promote "algae blooms". As I understand
it, when the algae finishes blooming and dies the decomposing organic
matter depletes oxygen in the water.

True, and in that sense a small amount of limiting nutrient could lead
eventually to a larger depletion of oxygen. But then they should just
say it doesn't contain P or N, because clearly soap has calories and
does have to consume oxygen to be broken down.

You define all soap products as detergents? (just curious)

No, I define all, and only, CLEANING products as detergents. A soap
product is a detergent if it's for cleaning. (Some soap products are
used for other purposes, such as lubrication.) Sand is a detergent if
it's used for cleaning. See also http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/suds/terminol.html
.. However, the term is commonly MISused to indicate specifically
soapless but soaplike detergents, and even for surfactants with no
significant cleaning properties.

Robert

On 22 May 2007 09:15:39 -0700, wrote:

You define all soap products as detergents? (just curious)

No, I define all, and only, CLEANING products as detergents. A soap
product is a detergent if it's for cleaning. (Some soap products are
used for other purposes, such as lubrication.) Sand is a detergent if
it's used for cleaning. See also http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/suds/terminol.html
. However, the term is commonly MISused to indicate specifically
soapless but soaplike detergents, and even for surfactants with no
significant cleaning properties.

So if I read that correctly, plain water or sand blasting agents can
be called detergents?

On May 19, 11:03 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

:What's in it?

:So, if there are no toxins, no chemicals, no phosphates, no
:detergents, and no nitrates in Latitude 43, what makes it work?
:According to the label, USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
:saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
:vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
:vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils. The

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Seeing how the definition of "soap" is simply a surfacant, almost any
liquid could be called "soap"

On May 21, 2:20 pm, basskisser wrote:

Seeing how the definition of "soap" is simply a surfactant,

But that's not a really GOOD definition, just a colloquial one, for
either term. For instance, the Charlie's soap site explains that it
got that name colloquially and retains it from familiarity. Hard to
beat a 4 letter word.

Also be aware that in Index Medicus (NLM) and in some other medical
contexts, the contraction "surfactant" applies specifically to
PULMONARY surfactant, while "surface active agent" retains the more
general meaning.

There are also some soaps that aren't very soapy and, practically,
aren't surfactants at all. For instance, a dietary supplement might
supply potassium as potassium acetate, which technically is a soap but
has no useful amount of surface activity.

Robert