On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:08:07 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:43:52 -0400, "JimH"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:34:28 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:39:55 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 01:19:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:00:29 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Josh Assing" wrote in message
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resist taking advantage of their offer of a roll of "premium"
vinyl
black
electrical tape. 7 bucks a roll.

we had a short that killed the engine -- we seperated the wires
out
(plastic
melted after touching a manifold) the closest marina was
"Narrows
Marina" at
day island.

Now I like these guys; they're nice -- friendly, and fuel prices
are
reasonable.
the electrical tape -- $15.99

yes; I bought it.

Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029

Hey, it is not 'marine rated builders ultra super premium grade'
ordinary
plastic adhesive electrical tape!!!!!!

Best. Electrical. Tape. Ever.

http://tinyurl.com/228hal

Indeed, it is! And, if you must.... you can coat with this:
http://tinyurl.com/2lddml

All my antenna connections were taped and coated with that stuff.

I also used a putty like sealant I got from Radio Shack of all places.
That stuff worked great.

I often use an orange colored tape from Radio Shack that seals an
electrical
connection as tight as heat shrink tube.

Somewhere in my radio shack junk/spare parts drawer, I have shrink
tape.

Doesn't work all that well. :)

The tape I use from RS works perfectly well. You may not be using the
same
stuff. ;-)

Is it a shrink tape?

Yep. Orange colored. I normally solder the connection then wrap it in the
tape. I do not boat on salt water so your experience with it may be
different than mine as I have never had a failure.

I'll have to check that out today.

On Sun, 20 May 2007 03:14:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:00:29 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:5didnaLP944aBNLbnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews. com...

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...

resist taking advantage of their offer of a roll of "premium" vinyl
black
electrical tape. 7 bucks a roll.

we had a short that killed the engine -- we seperated the wires out
(plastic
melted after touching a manifold) the closest marina was "Narrows
Marina" at
day island.

Now I like these guys; they're nice -- friendly, and fuel prices are
reasonable.
the electrical tape -- $15.99

yes; I bought it.

Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029

Hey, it is not 'marine rated builders ultra super premium grade' ordinary
plastic adhesive electrical tape!!!!!!

Best. Electrical. Tape. Ever.

http://tinyurl.com/228hal

For boats PVC tape is better. After you tape it, put a little PVC pipe glue
on the tape, and it will be welded solid and not let any water in. Works as
well as liquid tape on the trailer light connections.

I've done that on trailer connections. The only problem is that pvc
pipe "glue" is actually an aromatic solvent which means it's "gluing"
action is actually a way to melt the plastic to make the seal.

I'm not sure that's a great idea.

On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:12:51 -0700, Josh Assing
wrote:

\That is one of the items in the boat tool kit. Plus a meter and some wire
of different colors. Plus some butt connectors and other end connectors.


I could make a lot of excusses for why the tape was in the car and not in the
boat -- but communication break down was a major cause.

One thing I keep on the boat now is a coat hanger -- the coat hanger allowed me
to jump the house battery to the starting battery & get the engine going again
until we located the cause of the problem... You just don't hear enough folks
say "keep a wire coat hanger on board"

I bought a set of mini-jumpers at Wal-Mart - nice little case,
compact, but handy when jumping the start batteries on other boats
when necessary.

I'm not at all sure I'd want to use a coat hanger - they are
basically white metal and under a heavy current load, could melt and
cause a problem quite beyond mere power outage.

"HK" wrote in message
...
sherwindu wrote:
Just for comparison, I remember many years ago there was a store in
Chicago called
Land's End that carried almost every conceivable kind of boat hardware.
Unfortunately, the bean counters got control of the company and now they
are a
catalog and outlet store with dappy nautical looking clothing. There was
a similar
store called Chicago Navigation Equitpment that simply vanished that had
an excellent
supply of boat hardware and supplies. It's all catalogs and internet
shopping now,
but I miss those stores where you could actually handle something before
you bought
it.


Land's End is now owned by Sears.

Hell, I remember when Abercrombie and Fitch was a real outfitter to
sportsmen, instead of a purveyor of clothes to young yups.


We lost a few stores somewhat like that with the downturn in the fisheries.
Mostly set up for commercial fishermen, but carried enough items to keep a
recreational boater/fisherman busy for hours. Some of the biggest fishing
hooks you'd ever want to see.

I'm not at all sure I'd want to use a coat hanger - they are
basically white metal and under a heavy current load, could melt and
cause a problem quite beyond mere power outage.

well; it was there - and that's all I had -- "necessity is the mother...."

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:08:07 -0400, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Yep. Orange colored. I normally solder the connection then wrap it in
the
tape. I do not boat on salt water so your experience with it may be
different than mine as I have never had a failure.


If at all prone to vibration, I avoid soldering like the plague.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

What about all the electronics on your boat?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 03:14:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:00:29 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:5didnaLP944aBNLbnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews .com...

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...

resist taking advantage of their offer of a roll of "premium" vinyl
black
electrical tape. 7 bucks a roll.

we had a short that killed the engine -- we seperated the wires out
(plastic
melted after touching a manifold) the closest marina was "Narrows
Marina" at
day island.

Now I like these guys; they're nice -- friendly, and fuel prices are
reasonable.
the electrical tape -- $15.99

yes; I bought it.

Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029

Hey, it is not 'marine rated builders ultra super premium grade'
ordinary
plastic adhesive electrical tape!!!!!!

Best. Electrical. Tape. Ever.

http://tinyurl.com/228hal

For boats PVC tape is better. After you tape it, put a little PVC pipe
glue
on the tape, and it will be welded solid and not let any water in. Works
as
well as liquid tape on the trailer light connections.

I've done that on trailer connections. The only problem is that pvc
pipe "glue" is actually an aromatic solvent which means it's "gluing"
action is actually a way to melt the plastic to make the seal.

I'm not sure that's a great idea.

Great idea for those trailer connectors that get dunked.

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:08:07 -0400, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Yep. Orange colored. I normally solder the connection then wrap it in
the
tape. I do not boat on salt water so your experience with it may be
different than mine as I have never had a failure.


If at all prone to vibration, I avoid soldering like the plague.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

What about all the electronics on your boat?


They are on a supported PC board. Different than a wire hanging loose.

On May 20, 11:55 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:08:07 -0400, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



Yep. Orange colored. I normally solder the connection then wrap it in the
tape. I do not boat on salt water so your experience with it may be
different than mine as I have never had a failure.

If at all prone to vibration, I avoid soldering like the plague.


Then again, Gene,

Ive lived by a base phiosophy, that on small, crimp-type, solderless
connectors? They always seem to hold better with a drop of solder in
them...

On Sun, 20 May 2007 07:35:23 -0700, Josh Assing
wrote:

I'm not at all sure I'd want to use a coat hanger - they are
basically white metal and under a heavy current load, could melt and
cause a problem quite beyond mere power outage.

well; it was there - and that's all I had -- "necessity is the mother...."

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