Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:40:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
Sometimes I think my wife is more attached to her gardens
around the house than to the house itself.
I know when I mention moving to Florida her main point of resistance
is losing her gardens. I've studied Florida gardening a bit, but it
looks like it's quite different than what she's accustomed to.
--Vic

Depends on where you are in Florida. In North Florida, where we lived,
almost anything would grow, and quickly, with nightly watering. Citrus
was a gamble, though, because we did get winter freezes. But it was easy
to grow a wide variety of familiar and unfamiliar flora, and bushes.


Good point. Most of what I looked at was "tropical" Florida growing.
Above the freeze line would still suit me fine.
After discussing this thread with my wife, I've concluded the "no
going back" once you sell is the biggest issue for us. Renting this
house out and renting one down there for a year or two might be an
option. The "nest" will remain waiting if the new one doesn't work.

--Vic


I really recommend North Florida, from about St. Augustine north, as a
great place for northerners to relocate.

First, real estate prices and most other prices are lower than in South
Florida.

Second, the climate is better. There really are seasons, albeit the
winter is mild.

Third, there are many beautiful uncrowded beaches.

The downside is that the area is parochial, and infested with right-wing
religious nutcases. But you can avoid them for the most part.

On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:08:00 -0400, HK wrote:

I really recommend North Florida, from about St. Augustine north, as a
great place for northerners to relocate.

First, real estate prices and most other prices are lower than in South
Florida.

Second, the climate is better. There really are seasons, albeit the
winter is mild.

Third, there are many beautiful uncrowded beaches.

The downside is that the area is parochial, and infested with right-wing
religious nutcases. But you can avoid them for the most part.

Finding your neighbors are running meth labs and let their pit bulls
run loose is probably a bigger concern, but I know what you mean.
I was raised a Baptist, but haven't been in a church for years, except
for weddings and funerals.
Even less chance of me going to church down there with all that
rattlesnake kissing going on.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:08:00 -0400, HK wrote:
I really recommend North Florida, from about St. Augustine north, as a
great place for northerners to relocate.

First, real estate prices and most other prices are lower than in South
Florida.

Second, the climate is better. There really are seasons, albeit the
winter is mild.

Third, there are many beautiful uncrowded beaches.

The downside is that the area is parochial, and infested with right-wing
religious nutcases. But you can avoid them for the most part.

Finding your neighbors are running meth labs and let their pit bulls
run loose is probably a bigger concern, but I know what you mean.
I was raised a Baptist, but haven't been in a church for years, except
for weddings and funerals.
Even less chance of me going to church down there with all that
rattlesnake kissing going on.

--Vic


The first and only time I ran into snake handlers was in Loudoun County,
Virginia, near Dulles Airport. I took a wrong turn while driving to
Dulles and found myself on a lovely little country road. On that road
was a little church where the faithful were involved in an outdoor snake
prayer fest.

This was in 1970 or so. I'd bet that church is long gone by now.

For the first year we lived in Florida, not a week went by without some
uninvited church representatives knocking on our door and asking all
sorts of questions they had no business asking. They really were obnoxious.

On May 12, 11:43 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:08:00 -0400, HK wrote:
I really recommend North Florida, from about St. Augustine north, as a
great place for northerners to relocate.

First, real estate prices and most other prices are lower than in South
Florida.

Second, the climate is better. There really are seasons, albeit the
winter is mild.

Third, there are many beautiful uncrowded beaches.

The downside is that the area is parochial, and infested with right-wing
religious nutcases. But you can avoid them for the most part.

Finding your neighbors are running meth labs and let their pit bulls
run loose is probably a bigger concern, but I know what you mean.
I was raised a Baptist, but haven't been in a church for years, except
for weddings and funerals.
Even less chance of me going to church down there with all that
rattlesnake kissing going on.

--Vic

The first and only time I ran into snake handlers was in Loudoun County,
Virginia, near Dulles Airport. I took a wrong turn while driving to
Dulles and found myself on a lovely little country road. On that road
was a little church where the faithful were involved in an outdoor snake
prayer fest.

This was in 1970 or so. I'd bet that church is long gone by now.

For the first year we lived in Florida, not a week went by without some
uninvited church representatives knocking on our door and asking all
sorts of questions they had no business asking. They really were obnoxious.

I am a 5th generation North Florida native and y'all aint invited to
come spoil my little corner of paradise. Although I am sure the
people of Wyoming feel the same way about me buying property there,
there is litle danger of Wy becoming overpopulated. So, yankees and
south Florida refugees, stay away.
On a boating topic, I took my Tolman Skiff over to Dog Island today
from Carabelle, beautiful water, hardly anybody around, it was
wonderful. However, the sight of the damned condos that have been
built on the old boat yard and my favorite oyster bar makes me realize
it wont be long befoe its ruined.

On 12 May 2007 17:00:22 -0700, wrote:


I am a 5th generation North Florida native and y'all aint invited to
come spoil my little corner of paradise. Although I am sure the
people of Wyoming feel the same way about me buying property there,
there is litle danger of Wy becoming overpopulated. So, yankees and
south Florida refugees, stay away.

Some southern hospitality that is.

On a boating topic, I took my Tolman Skiff over to Dog Island today
from Carabelle, beautiful water, hardly anybody around, it was
wonderful. However, the sight of the damned condos that have been
built on the old boat yard and my favorite oyster bar makes me realize
it wont be long befoe its ruined.

Probably last longer than SW Florida. My first trip down there was in
'78. Real pretty. Cape Coral had @25k people, Pine Island was
undeveloped, and fishing was terrific from bridges, canal banks, and
boats. By '85 it was all a mess, and I never went back.
What you need down there is about 5 years of heavy hurricanes to turn
those condos into reefs and clean out them Yankee carpetbaggers.
Al Gore just might have something in mind to take care of that.
Looks like he's already set fire to the place.

--Vic

On May 13, 12:07 am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On 12 May 2007 17:00:22 -0700, wrote:



I am a 5th generation North Florida native and y'all aint invited to
come spoil my little corner of paradise. Although I am sure the
people of Wyoming feel the same way about me buying property there,
there is litle danger of Wy becoming overpopulated. So, yankees and
south Florida refugees, stay away.

Some southern hospitality that is.

On a boating topic, I took my Tolman Skiff over to Dog Island today
from Carabelle, beautiful water, hardly anybody around, it was
wonderful. However, the sight of the damned condos that have been
built on the old boat yard and my favorite oyster bar makes me realize
it wont be long befoe its ruined.

Probably last longer than SW Florida. My first trip down there was in
'78. Real pretty. Cape Coral had @25k people, Pine Island was
undeveloped, and fishing was terrific from bridges, canal banks, and
boats. By '85 it was all a mess, and I never went back.
What you need down there is about 5 years of heavy hurricanes to turn
those condos into reefs and clean out them Yankee carpetbaggers.
Al Gore just might have something in mind to take care of that.
Looks like he's already set fire to the place.

--Vic

I cheer for hurricanes, Gods way of cleaning the beaches of condo
filth.
However, our dumb ass politicians have made those of us who are smart
enough to not own property on the coast pay for those who think its a
good idea. They have made us inlanders help to subsidize the
insurance of those who want to live dangerously on the coast. Thus,
former boat yards and fishhouses have been turned into condos inviting
further financial disaster such that several companies refuse to
insure in FL at all because the state demands they insure unsafe
properties on the coast. I don't ask non-boat owners to help pay my
boat insurance, why should I have to help pay for dangerous coastal
property?
Southern Hospitality: C'mon down, stay awhile, THEN LEAVE.

wrote:


I cheer for hurricanes, Gods way of cleaning the beaches of condo
filth.

Uneducated a**hole. Got any interstate highways near you? Maybe we
should cheer for earthquakes, so your highways are destroyed, and you
are stuck in your little redneck town, eh?

On 13 May 2007 07:54:46 -0700, wrote:



I cheer for hurricanes, Gods way of cleaning the beaches of condo
filth.
However, our dumb ass politicians have made those of us who are smart
enough to not own property on the coast pay for those who think its a
good idea. They have made us inlanders help to subsidize the
insurance of those who want to live dangerously on the coast. Thus,
former boat yards and fishhouses have been turned into condos inviting
further financial disaster such that several companies refuse to
insure in FL at all because the state demands they insure unsafe
properties on the coast. I don't ask non-boat owners to help pay my
boat insurance, why should I have to help pay for dangerous coastal
property?

I'm not too affected by insurance communism where I live, and my
answer to your question would be highly political, so I won't give it.
Sports communism costs me more in my monthly cable TV bill.
I don't give a damn about millionaire athletes and their games, but
them and their "fans" extract a nice chunk of money from me every
month so my wife can watch Lifetime and Home Shopping Network.
Hurricanes are the best solution for your problem, having the added
benefit that they can be laid to God's wrath, with the caveat that the
wrath is unleashed only because of the sins of Al Gore.

Southern Hospitality: C'mon down, stay awhile, THEN LEAVE.

30 years max if I'm not required to attend Sunday rattlesnake church,
and you occasionally have me over for grits.
Otherwise arriving Monday, departing Saturday.
But I'm actually looking more at Wyoming now after seeing how people
like it there (-:

--Vic