On Tue, 08 May 2007 14:00:49 -0400,
wrote:


Cranes onboard ship -- note for scale that this is a 788 foot long
ship. The accident related happened during the ship turning around in
the river. It struck a dredge that had anchored outside of the
channel. Oooops....

As long as the Plimsoll Lines have not been exceeded the ship was not
overloaded. Unlikely that it would have left port if that was the
case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimsoll_line

Top heavy? Maybe, but that's a different issue. I'd guess that was
carefully calculated in advance.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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Actually, it was posted kinda tongue in cheek. The cargo wasn't all
that heavy (so no issue with the Plimsoll lines), but it sure hung
over the sides all over the place... and was likely the cause of
grazing the dredge.


Nothing to do with this thread or boating, but the above reminded me of a
hilarious scene I witnessed this morning at the supermarket.

A women was pushing her cart up an isle while chatting away on her cell
phone. In her cart was a broom with a wide but stubby head ... like a small
garage pushbroom. She had wedged it in the cart handle first, so the head
was sticking up in the air and at an angle away from the cart.

As she approached where I was, still yakking away, she drifted too far over
to the right and the head of the broom started taking down the first row of
catsup and spaghetti sauce bottles on an upper shelf display. She had no
clue what was going on behind her as about 20-30 glass bottles crashed and
smashed on the floor. She just kept trucking along, talking away. I
raised my hand and told her to "Stop" and she just gave me a deer in the
headlights look, didn't miss a step or a word to whomever she was talking to
and exited the isle, never looking back and apparently unaware of her path
of destruction.

Eisboch

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:48:45 -0400, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 08 May 2007 14:00:49 -0400,
wrote:


Cranes onboard ship -- note for scale that this is a 788 foot long
ship. The accident related happened during the ship turning around in
the river. It struck a dredge that had anchored outside of the
channel. Oooops....

As long as the Plimsoll Lines have not been exceeded the ship was not
overloaded. Unlikely that it would have left port if that was the
case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimsoll_line

Top heavy? Maybe, but that's a different issue. I'd guess that was
carefully calculated in advance.

Actually, it was posted kinda tongue in cheek. The cargo wasn't all
that heavy (so no issue with the Plimsoll lines), but it sure hung
over the sides all over the place... and was likely the cause of
grazing the dredge. Another article that I have, but don't have a link
to, quotes the crew as saying the weight of the cranes, as
distributed, actually made for a more comfortable ride at sea.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

More likely the dredge was not planned for. When they have brought them
into SF Bay for the Oakland terminals, they plan everything. Since they
have to go under 2 bridges, the tide is a big calculation. And the CG
escorts the boat to keep any other craft clear.

One thing I like to do is count the number of people talking on cellphones
when I'm at the market. My record is 15. What REALLY ****es me off are the
ones talking away while trying to write a check. I won't even ask the
question about writing a check in this day and age. ;-)

--Mike

"RCE" wrote in message
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
news
Actually, it was posted kinda tongue in cheek. The cargo wasn't all
that heavy (so no issue with the Plimsoll lines), but it sure hung
over the sides all over the place... and was likely the cause of
grazing the dredge.


Nothing to do with this thread or boating, but the above reminded me of a
hilarious scene I witnessed this morning at the supermarket.

A women was pushing her cart up an isle while chatting away on her cell
phone. In her cart was a broom with a wide but stubby head ... like a
small garage pushbroom. She had wedged it in the cart handle first, so
the head was sticking up in the air and at an angle away from the cart.

As she approached where I was, still yakking away, she drifted too far
over to the right and the head of the broom started taking down the first
row of catsup and spaghetti sauce bottles on an upper shelf display. She
had no clue what was going on behind her as about 20-30 glass bottles
crashed and smashed on the floor. She just kept trucking along, talking
away. I raised my hand and told her to "Stop" and she just gave me a deer
in the headlights look, didn't miss a step or a word to whomever she was
talking to and exited the isle, never looking back and apparently unaware
of her path of destruction.

Eisboch

On Wed, 9 May 2007 20:55:06 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

One thing I like to do is count the number of people talking on cellphones
when I'm at the market. My record is 15. What REALLY ****es me off are the
ones talking away while trying to write a check. I won't even ask the
question about writing a check in this day and age. ;-)

Ah - cellphones.

I don't count cell phones anymore, but I will occasionally watch cell
phone users doing something while yakkin'.

For instance, the other day at the Post Office young mother with a two
toddlers and a baby in a carrying case pulled into the lot. She's
yakkin' on the cell phone in the car, out of the car, trying to
wrangle her twins, get the baby out of the car, get her purse, get
everything into the PO, work the window with her package, rummage in
her purse for money, get her mail out of the box, wrangle the kids
back out, get them into the car seats and get back into the car never
once missing a beat while she was talking on the cell phone.

It's simply amazing. :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

For instance, the other day at the Post Office young mother with a two
toddlers and a baby in a carrying case pulled into the lot. She's
yakkin' on the cell phone in the car, out of the car, trying to
wrangle her twins, get the baby out of the car, get her purse, get
everything into the PO, work the window with her package, rummage in
her purse for money, get her mail out of the box, wrangle the kids
back out, get them into the car seats and get back into the car never
once missing a beat while she was talking on the cell phone.

It's simply amazing. :)


Women were an invention made for cell phones.

Eisboch

On Sun, 13 May 2007 10:26:51 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote:


Top heavy? Maybe, but that's a different issue. I'd guess that was
carefully calculated in advance.

I had no idea how detailed this move was calculated:
http://tinyurl.com/35j28n


I found a few more pictures, and some more information about those
cranes. Apparently, those four cranes were only part of the shipment.
The Zhen Hua 16 had already dropped two more cranes off in Kingston,
Jamaica. The fully loaded ship can be seen he

http://www.raleighchronicle.com/2007020616.html

Another picture with the ship de-ballasted:

http://www.islandgazette.net/photo2/...a/Cranes%20Old
%20Baldy.jpg