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Thank you, Madam Speaker. You're doing a bang-up job.


How do you imagine Pelosi affected gas prices?

The same way Bush affected gas prices to make his buddies rich.


If you can't describe the precise mechanism by which Pelosi did this, then
your original theory is nonsense, or you just posted it to be annoying

I posted it to demonstrate the absurdity in the notion that the governing
party drives gas prices for profits.

On May 7, 2:21�pm, "NOYB" wrote:
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Thank you, Madam Speaker. *You're doing a bang-up job.

How do you imagine Pelosi affected gas prices?

The same way Bush affected gas prices to make his buddies rich.

If you can't describe the precise mechanism by which Pelosi did this, then
your original theory is nonsense, or you just posted it to be annoying

I posted it to demonstrate the absurdity in the notion that the governing
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You certainly succeeded in demonstrating the absurdity that either
political party controls gas prices.

Oil companies control gas prices.

The daily laugh is listening to the latest rounds of excuses for high
prices. Too much demand for gas in general, not enough demand for
specific types of gas, turmoil in the mideast, peace and prosperity in
the far east, not enough refinery capacity (please ignore the fact
that we have been shutting refineries routinely for over a decade,
thanks), not enough oil being extracted from the National Parks and
wildlife refuges, the high cost of extracting oil from national parks
adn wildlife sanctuaries.....etc, etc, etc.

Bottom line, really, when all the BS is sliced away, is that the oil
companies are doing exactly what anybody else would do in their stead;
charging every last fricking nickel the market will bear and shorting
supply to create a bidding war. If the practice creates some human
misery and has a negative impact on other businesses not involved in
the refining and distribution of oil---- tough toenails. These people
are in business to make every last dime they possibly can- as are we
all. They shouldn't be expected to sell for less than their product
can bring simply to promote the general welfare of the country and the
economy.

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You certainly succeeded in demonstrating the absurdity that either
political party controls gas prices.

Go away and think for 20 minutes about how this situation is connected to
cheaper goods from overseas.

On May 7, 3:18?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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You certainly succeeded in demonstrating the absurdity that either
political party controls gas prices.

Go away and think for 20 minutes about how this situation is connected to
cheaper goods from overseas.

Demand for oil overseas raises competition for a world wide commodity.
Pretty obvious. That affects the price of a bbl of oil more than
refined products, however. Because the environmental laws are lax or
worse in many of those developing economies it's a lot cheaper to
refine the oil there than it would be to refine it here and then ship
it overseas again. We may be competing with the Chinese for crude, but
not for refined products from US refineries.

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On May 7, 3:18?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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You certainly succeeded in demonstrating the absurdity that either
political party controls gas prices.

Go away and think for 20 minutes about how this situation is connected to
cheaper goods from overseas.

Demand for oil overseas raises competition for a world wide commodity.
Pretty obvious. That affects the price of a bbl of oil more than
refined products, however. Because the environmental laws are lax or
worse in many of those developing economies it's a lot cheaper to
refine the oil there than it would be to refine it here and then ship
it overseas again. We may be competing with the Chinese for crude, but
not for refined products from US refineries.


I was thinking more along these lines: Although some people inexplicably
deny this, higher oil prices affect every link in the manufacturing chain,
simply because of freight costs. Now, some businesses may switch to overseas
manufacturing because they just feel like cranking up their profit margin
ASAP. But others may do so when costs here reach the point where they have a
choice of either move, shut their doors for good, or try raising prices and
have their customers shut down their companies by refusing to pay those
higher costs.

To simplify: Do higher oil prices push manufacturing jobs overseas?

On 7 May 2007 15:06:51 -0700, Chuck Gould
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You certainly succeeded in demonstrating the absurdity that either
political party controls gas prices.

Oil companies control gas prices.

So buy an oil company, or at least a few shares in one. Prices are
reasonable and most pay a decent dividend.

The truth is that oil companies buy their feedstock and sell their
product in open auction markets. Find out who is bidding up prices
and ask them to stop. This all involves a radical new economic theory
called supply and demand.

As an alternative you can move to Venezuela. They are subsidizing the
price of petro products to their citizens at dirt cheap prices. Some
day they will still have low prices but nothing left to sell.

On May 7, 3:59�pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On 7 May 2007 15:06:51 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

You certainly succeeded in demonstrating the absurdity that either
political party controls gas prices.

Oil companies control gas prices.

So buy an oil company, or at least a few shares in one. *Prices are
reasonable and most pay a decent dividend.

The truth is that oil companies buy their feedstock and sell their
product in open auction markets. *Find out who is bidding up prices
and ask them to stop. *This all involves a radical new economic theory
called supply and demand.

As an alternative you can move to Venezuela. *They are subsidizing the
price of petro products to their citizens at dirt cheap prices. * Some
day they will still have low prices but nothing left to sell.

I don't begrudge the oil companies' right to be greedy as hell.
In fact, unless we want to become a socialist society and economy this
porice gouging just comes with the territory.

Theoretically, their rape and pillage pricing creates more opportunity
for alternative energy technologies to become viable. We've had
alternative energy in boating for centuries....it's called sailing. I
wouldn't be excited about making the switch to sail, but if were just
getting into boating today I'd be more likely than before to take up
sailing and fuel prices would be a major factor in that equation.

On 7 May 2007 16:39:16 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 7, 3:59?pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On 7 May 2007 15:06:51 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

You certainly succeeded in demonstrating the absurdity that either
political party controls gas prices.

Oil companies control gas prices.

So buy an oil company, or at least a few shares in one. rices are
reasonable and most pay a decent dividend.

The truth is that oil companies buy their feedstock and sell their
product in open auction markets. ind out who is bidding up prices
and ask them to stop. his all involves a radical new economic theory
called supply and demand.

As an alternative you can move to Venezuela. hey are subsidizing the
price of petro products to their citizens at dirt cheap prices. Some
day they will still have low prices but nothing left to sell.

I don't begrudge the oil companies' right to be greedy as hell.
In fact, unless we want to become a socialist society and economy this
porice gouging just comes with the territory.

Theoretically, their rape and pillage pricing creates more opportunity
for alternative energy technologies to become viable. We've had
alternative energy in boating for centuries....it's called sailing. I
wouldn't be excited about making the switch to sail, but if were just
getting into boating today I'd be more likely than before to take up
sailing and fuel prices would be a major factor in that equation.

Just imagine how much better off we'd be if we had the same percent of
power from nuclear energy as the French.