On Thu, 03 May 2007 11:47:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

(hate speech)

It's pretty simple.

I don't believe it exists.

Plug the words hitler streicher speeches into your browser.
Read.
Get back to me.

--Vic

On May 3, 12:26 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2007 11:47:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:

(hate speech)



It's pretty simple.

I don't believe it exists.

Plug the words hitler streicher speeches into your browser.
Read.
Get back to me.

--Vic

I know I can not debate on the level you all can on this, but Hugly
was on tv last night and he made a comment that I will ponder for a
while. He said, "It's not what someone calls you, it's what you answer
to". Realizing he is a commedian, I still found many of his comments
on Imus and speech, pretty fair. Then he proceeded to say "Imus
shouldn't have called them ho's, they were not ho's, but they were
some nappey headed, ugly girls on that team...". Hugley words, not
mine.

On 3 May 2007 09:34:12 -0700, wrote:

On May 3, 12:26 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2007 11:47:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:

(hate speech)



It's pretty simple.

I don't believe it exists.

Plug the words hitler streicher speeches into your browser.
Read.
Get back to me.

--Vic

I know I can not debate on the level you all can on this, but Hugly
was on tv last night and he made a comment that I will ponder for a
while. He said, "It's not what someone calls you, it's what you answer
to". Realizing he is a commedian, I still found many of his comments
on Imus and speech, pretty fair. Then he proceeded to say "Imus
shouldn't have called them ho's, they were not ho's, but they were
some nappey headed, ugly girls on that team...". Hugley words, not
mine.

I don't know Hugley, so I can't debate on your level with that, but
that makes sense. Somebody else - Tim? - said he knows it when he
hears it. Imus isn't a hater, just an ahole. Watched his show a lot
before he got canned and what was most amazing about it was how
so many bigshots of all political stripes would come on his show and
kiss his cocaine/alcohol riddled ass. Then he shot off his mouth
against the wrong target. Too bad for him. No sympathy from me,
except his show was sometimes entertaining and I miss it a bit.
Real hate speech has the goal to de-humanize a subset of people.
And if you ain't human you can be shot, hung, gassed, or otherwise
disposed of. The Germans were softened up for years by anti-semitic
propagandists before the exterminations began.
Nazis, white supremicists and black Nation of Islam are
the best known American practitioners, and get short shrift here.
Some European countries have laws against what they term hate
speech - holocaust denial, for example.
We don't need that here, because the 1st Amendment says you can say
what you want. If you get out of hand that same 1st Amendment allows
others with more sense to rip you a new one. If you get people riled
enough they will riot, and then incitement laws can kick in.
Those founding fathers knew their stuff.

--Vic

On May 3, 1:45 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On 3 May 2007 09:34:12 -0700, wrote:





On May 3, 12:26 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2007 11:47:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:

(hate speech)

It's pretty simple.

I don't believe it exists.

Plug the words hitler streicher speeches into your browser.
Read.
Get back to me.

--Vic

I know I can not debate on the level you all can on this, but Hugly
was on tv last night and he made a comment that I will ponder for a
while. He said, "It's not what someone calls you, it's what you answer
to". Realizing he is a commedian, I still found many of his comments
on Imus and speech, pretty fair. Then he proceeded to say "Imus
shouldn't have called them ho's, they were not ho's, but they were
some nappey headed, ugly girls on that team...". Hugley words, not
mine.

I don't know Hugley, so I can't debate on your level with that, but
that makes sense. Somebody else - Tim? - said he knows it when he
hears it. Imus isn't a hater, just an ahole. Watched his show a lot
before he got canned and what was most amazing about it was how
so many bigshots of all political stripes would come on his show and
kiss his cocaine/alcohol riddled ass. Then he shot off his mouth
against the wrong target. Too bad for him. No sympathy from me,
except his show was sometimes entertaining and I miss it a bit.
Real hate speech has the goal to de-humanize a subset of people.
And if you ain't human you can be shot, hung, gassed, or otherwise
disposed of. The Germans were softened up for years by anti-semitic
propagandists before the exterminations began.
Nazis, white supremicists and black Nation of Islam are
the best known American practitioners, and get short shrift here.
Some European countries have laws against what they term hate
speech - holocaust denial, for example.
We don't need that here, because the 1st Amendment says you can say
what you want. If you get out of hand that same 1st Amendment allows
others with more sense to rip you a new one. If you get people riled
enough they will riot, and then incitement laws can kick in.
Those founding fathers knew their stuff.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

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Sorry, I think it is JJ Hugley, he is a black commedian, young guy,
known on the WB network and commedy variety shows. I think the guy is
hilarious. Anyway, I was the one that said "I know it when I hear it".
I was making a wisecrack based on the observations of a SC justice on
the topic of pornography. I tend to connect things differently than
others, OCD, ADD, I don't know, I seem to connect with them all