On May 1, 10:01?am, Harry Krause wrote:

The video was produced by a boat trade association. If boats and boating
weren't "instrumental" in it, the trade group wouldn't have paid for it.


So?

Don't forget where you came from, Harry. You have posted time and time
again that your father was the largest boat (or maybe it was outboard)
dealer on a major portion of the east coast for X number of decades.
Of course, that's when he wasn't soloing across the Atlantic in a
little skiff powered by an outboard motor, etc. Why such disdain for
anything sponsored by a trade association?

Is there some portion of the video you felt was untrue, or did it
simply fail to strike a chord with your personal experience?

Grow Boating is an organization designed not to market specific boats,
but to spread the word to the non-boating public about the joys of
recreational boating. Have you noticed that, in general, the average
age of people hanging around at marinas seems to go up about one year
every 12 months? Bringing new participants into boating is important
in many ways, and increasing the number of potential boat buyers is
not really at the top of the list. Would you, or anyone else for that
matter, be eager to buy a boat if you felt that when you were ready to
sell it there would be no market for it at all? We all depend upon an
infrastructure that requires a certain critical mass to sustain
itself; fuel docks, boat ramps, marinas, supply houses, repair shops,
etc all start disappearing when the number of boaters falls off. We
all benefit when new people take up boating.

To the video producers' credit, they didn't show anybody in a
particularly large or expensive boat. The emphasis was on the
experience of boating, not on the indulgence of "two-footitis". The
scenes where people seemed to be having the most fun were those where
the personal interactions were more important than the LOA or pricetag
of the boat itself.

It was surprising that anybody was offended by my introductory
comment. It was merely intended to point out the difference between
the recent "tone" in the NG and what the pastime is really all about.

\Bull****. It was just another example of your snarky "My sh*t doesn't
stink" attitude here.

No, not if you read it without a defensive perspective. Your anger and
your bitterness may be distorting your perceptions. Too bad.

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 1, 9:42?am, Harry Krause wrote:

Who said you mentioned my name? You brought that up, Mr. Snark. You're
so overflowing with netcop syndrome, you don't even see you've become
the poster boy of what you don't want.- Hide quoted text -

That's just it. I didn't single you out yet you felt compelled to
retaliate.
Take one step back and get a broader perspective. Who has done all the
name calling so far in this thread? ("snark" "a**hole" "netcop", etc)
First clue- it isn't me. :-)



My comment was on your general snottiness and snarkiness. I'm not
concerned whether you "single" me or anyone else out. Several posters
here, more than several, actually, have watched your devolution with
some sadness, and a few have commented on it. It's hard to believe that
you don't see yourself engaging in the precise sort of behavior for
which you castigate others. That you may or may not name names in a
particular post is not relevant, nor is the language you or others use.


“I have a different vision of leadership. A leadership is someone who
brings people together.” George W. Bush

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 1, 10:01?am, Harry Krause wrote:

The video was produced by a boat trade association. If boats and boating
weren't "instrumental" in it, the trade group wouldn't have paid for it.


So?

Don't forget where you came from, Harry. You have posted time and time
again that your father was the largest boat (or maybe it was outboard)
dealer on a major portion of the east coast for X number of decades.


My dad for a number of years sold more Evinrude outboard motors than any
other dealer in New England. His was nowhere near the largest boat
dealership in that part of the country. Where you got your idea about
the size of my dad's dealership is beyond me.


Grow Boating is an organization designed not to market specific boats,
but to spread the word to the non-boating public about the joys of
recreational boating. Have you noticed that, in general, the average
age of people hanging around at marinas seems to go up about one year
every 12 months? Bringing new participants into boating is important
in many ways, and increasing the number of potential boat buyers is
not really at the top of the list. Would you, or anyone else for that
matter, be eager to buy a boat if you felt that when you were ready to
sell it there would be no market for it at all? We all depend upon an
infrastructure that requires a certain critical mass to sustain
itself; fuel docks, boat ramps, marinas, supply houses, repair shops,
etc all start disappearing when the number of boaters falls off. We
all benefit when new people take up boating.


The preceding commercial announcement was brought to rec.boats by Chuck
"Don't Call Me a Spammer" Gould.

On May 1, 1:41 pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 1, 9:42?am, Harry Krause wrote:

Who said you mentioned my name? You brought that up, Mr. Snark. You're
so overflowing with netcop syndrome, you don't even see you've become
the poster boy of what you don't want.- Hide quoted text -

That's just it. I didn't single you out yet you felt compelled to
retaliate.
Take one step back and get a broader perspective. Who has done all the
name calling so far in this thread? ("snark" "a**hole" "netcop", etc)
First clue- it isn't me. :-)

My comment was on your general snottiness and snarkiness. I'm not
concerned whether you "single" me or anyone else out. Several posters
here, more than several, actually, have watched your devolution with
some sadness, and a few have commented on it. It's hard to believe that
you don't see yourself engaging in the precise sort of behavior for
which you castigate others. That you may or may not name names in a
particular post is not relevant, nor is the language you or others use.

"I have a different vision of leadership. A leadership is someone who
brings people together." George W. Bush

I think the difference is snarkyness compared to downright vulgarity
and intelligent banter as opposed to downright juvenile behavior.
Anyway, to keep this on track, back in the early 80's when big wooden
boats were a dime a dozen, and most of my friends could not afford to
take them out of the slip we used to say, the smaller the boat, the
more boating you get out of it. I must admit I get a little ticked off
when some old snot looks down his nose at my boat and crew. Just don't
get it, some of them. That video is what boating is all about, period.
I think folks should try to find the positive in all posts, take from
the group what they can, and not ideology get in the way of a good
time.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On May 1, 8:37?am, "Jim" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On May 1, 5:13?am, "Jim" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

groups.com...

While boaters and non alike are lobbing in political trolls and
testing who can post the greatest number of unprovoked nsaty
personal
remarks, we run the risk of being distracted from what the boating
pastime is all about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeE92WVe_so

Take a look in the mirror, Sir Charles. See the biggest troll
hypocrite
on
Rec.boats

Thanks for yet another unprovoked nasty personal remark, Jim.

Watch the video. It might adjust your sour attitude.

I have a really good even tempered disposition except when dealing with
a**holes with holier than thou, delusions of themselves.



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And thanks, yet again, for yet another unprovoked nasty remark,
apparently directed at somebody in the NG. Can't remember the last
time anybody came gunnin' for you around here, so what's your beef?

Did you watch the video?

Unprovoked indeed.
I must have underestimated your smarminess.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On May 1, 10:01?am, Harry Krause wrote:

The video was produced by a boat trade association. If boats and boating
weren't "instrumental" in it, the trade group wouldn't have paid for it.

Damn ( smacking my head with the palm of my hand), I thought the video was
about promoting those cheap, Chinese made, Greek fishermans hat knockoffs.

Jim wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 1, 10:01?am, Harry Krause wrote:

The video was produced by a boat trade association. If boats and boating
weren't "instrumental" in it, the trade group wouldn't have paid for it.
Damn ( smacking my head with the palm of my hand), I thought the video was
about promoting those cheap, Chinese made, Greek fishermans hat knockoffs.




Ahh, fooled ya, eh?

On May 1, 1:55 pm, "Jim" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

ups.com... On May 1, 10:01?am, Harry Krause wrote:

The video was produced by a boat trade association. If boats and boating
weren't "instrumental" in it, the trade group wouldn't have paid for it.

Damn ( smacking my head with the palm of my hand), I thought the video was
about promoting those cheap, Chinese made, Greek fishermans hat knockoffs.

The one I got dad, I have it here now was made in Greese. Think I may
have gotten it in Gloucester, but I don't actually remember. He says
it doesn't suit him so he won't wear it. Still cocky at age 90, hope I
fair as well.

On 1 May 2007 03:13:42 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

While boaters and non alike are lobbing in political trolls and
testing who can post the greatest number of unprovoked nsaty personal
remarks, we run the risk of being distracted from what the boating
pastime is all about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeE92WVe_so

Very nice, Chuck. Thanks!

On Tue, 01 May 2007 06:15:26 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
While boaters and non alike are lobbing in political trolls and
testing who can post the greatest number of unprovoked nsaty personal
remarks, we run the risk of being distracted from what the boating
pastime is all about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?chuckbeasnarkya**hole


Leave it to Chuck to not miss an opportunity to be a snarky a**hole.

Leave it to Harry to find something derogatory to say!