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Harry Krause April 30th 07 07:36 PM

The Right Stuff for...
 
....a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.

?



Bo April 30th 07 08:37 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly smooth,
sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products from
50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.

?



Bondo.



[email protected] April 30th 07 08:46 PM

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Bondo.- Hide quoted text -



Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************


- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


[email protected] April 30th 07 09:04 PM

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On Apr 30, 3:46 pm, wrote:
Bondo.- Hide quoted text -


Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************

- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


This is funny, harry has to pretend I am in his imaginary kill file ;)


Harry Krause April 30th 07 09:27 PM

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Bo wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly smooth,
sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products from
50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.

?



Bondo.



Bondo? I don't think so.


[email protected] April 30th 07 10:04 PM

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On Apr 30, 4:55 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 13:04:23 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 3:46 pm, wrote:
Bondo.- Hide quoted text -


Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************


- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


This is funny, harry has to pretend I am in his imaginary kill file ;)


I wonder if I'm in his kill file. If I am, he won't see your posts this way
either.

HTH!

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Now you ruined my fun. Anyway, little secret, harry does not KF
anyone, it would ruin his fun. He screwed up the other day and replied
directly to one of my posts, guess he is having trouble keeping track
of his neverending bull****.


JimH April 30th 07 10:17 PM

The Right Stuff for...
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
On Apr 30, 4:55 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 13:04:23 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 3:46 pm, wrote:
Bondo.- Hide quoted text -


Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************


- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


This is funny, harry has to pretend I am in his imaginary kill file ;)


I wonder if I'm in his kill file. If I am, he won't see your posts this
way
either.

HTH!

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Now you ruined my fun. Anyway, little secret, harry does not KF
anyone, it would ruin his fun. He screwed up the other day and replied
directly to one of my posts, guess he is having trouble keeping track
of his neverending bull****.


Why is it you can never find a sheriff when you need one?



JimH April 30th 07 10:22 PM

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wrote in message
ps.com...


Bondo.- Hide quoted text -



As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman).....



Lyman, not llyman. So why not buy one? They are readily available and
fairly inexpensive.



Short Wave Sportfishing April 30th 07 10:29 PM

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.


Well, it depends on how bad the seam is.

You could use bedding compound which is a fairing composite which I
used to use years ago - Interlux still makes a good compound - a
little pricey.

Or, you could use lead putty which I also don't know if they make
anymore with lead powder and linseed oil.

There is another way to make a bedding compound which I saw used on a
Towne Class sail boat a couple of years ago - fine ground calcium
carbonate and linseed oil - make a paste.

There are other options like chopped oakum and linseed oil - probably
the best through is a bedding compound.

Short Wave Sportfishing April 30th 07 10:32 PM

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On 30 Apr 2007 12:46:48 -0700, wrote:



Bondo.- Hide quoted text -



Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************


- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


Actually, bondo isn't that bad an idea as long as it's used for
fairing. There are a bunch of silicone based marine bondos out there
that are pretty stable and will flex. It the boat is painted that
shouldn't make a difference anyway.

I don't know if this is totally accurate, but I have it on good
authority that the Amistad had some planking problems which were
faired with bonbo. :)

[email protected] April 30th 07 10:40 PM

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On Apr 30, 5:12 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 14:04:19 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 4:55 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 13:04:23 -0700, wrote:


On Apr 30, 3:46 pm, wrote:
Bondo.- Hide quoted text -


Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************


- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


This is funny, harry has to pretend I am in his imaginary kill file ;)


I wonder if I'm in his kill file. If I am, he won't see your posts this way
either.


HTH!


CWM- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Now you ruined my fun. Anyway, little secret, harry does not KF
anyone, it would ruin his fun. He screwed up the other day and replied
directly to one of my posts, guess he is having trouble keeping track
of his neverending bull****.


Or maybe your self- aggrandizing mojo is so unspeakably great it gets by the
average bozo-bin. I know that when I stop yawning, I'll be REALLY impressed by
you.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hummm, my input was that bondo and plastic is too britle, you
contribution is... Anyway, Lyman, that's it Lyman frekin fingers never
work right. I don't have the facility or time to restore anything much
less run and store it when it's done. And as to the sherrif, I just
wish someone here would let me in on the secret handshake (or
dickpull) that allows you all to quip back and fourth. Anyway, in case
harry is really working on a boat he should look into 3M 5200 or of
course there is always the traditional cotton stuffing. There Charlie,
now where's your contributon.. Gilmore Girls like I said before...


Wayne.B April 30th 07 10:43 PM

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bondo? I don't think so.


I agree with that.

Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.

What kind of boat is this?


[email protected] April 30th 07 10:43 PM

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Oh yeah, sikaflex might also be an option although I have never used
it myself, asswipe.


Harry Krause April 30th 07 10:55 PM

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JimH wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...

Bondo.- Hide quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman).....



Lyman, not llyman. So why not buy one? They are readily available and
fairly inexpensive.




A fiberglass Lyman (with the mold pulled off an actual hull), and with a
mahogany interior (decks, seats, floorboards) would be nice. Those
riveted clinker-built hulls of the original Lymans were a pain in the
ass. Cruisers and Thompson bolted their hulls. Lymans had wonderful
lines, though.

Harry Krause April 30th 07 10:57 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.


Well, it depends on how bad the seam is.

You could use bedding compound which is a fairing composite which I
used to use years ago - Interlux still makes a good compound - a
little pricey.

Or, you could use lead putty which I also don't know if they make
anymore with lead powder and linseed oil.

There is another way to make a bedding compound which I saw used on a
Towne Class sail boat a couple of years ago - fine ground calcium
carbonate and linseed oil - make a paste.

There are other options like chopped oakum and linseed oil - probably
the best through is a bedding compound.



These aren't fancy planks, and they have been painted before. A bedding
compound that doesn't really harden and become sandable, though, would
not be the answer I seek here.

Harry Krause April 30th 07 10:59 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bondo? I don't think so.


I agree with that.

Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.

What kind of boat is this?


It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.

[email protected] April 30th 07 11:18 PM

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On Apr 30, 5:59 pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Bondo? I don't think so.


I agree with that.


Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.


What kind of boat is this?


It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.


It "may" be a bad idea to use the oak, especially if it is heavier
than the origional wood. I don't know how big the deck is but you
could offset the designed pitch of the boat which could result in poor
handling, or even safety issues. Marine ply is still pretty heavy
compared to pine, look into Occoume marine usually sold in the BS 1088
classification. It may be a better bet and much more stable than
typical marine ply. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.


[email protected] April 30th 07 11:28 PM

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.. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.


John H. April 30th 07 11:48 PM

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On 30 Apr 2007 14:04:19 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 30, 4:55 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 13:04:23 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 3:46 pm, wrote:
Bondo.- Hide quoted text -


Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************


- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


This is funny, harry has to pretend I am in his imaginary kill file ;)


I wonder if I'm in his kill file. If I am, he won't see your posts this way
either.

HTH!

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Now you ruined my fun. Anyway, little secret, harry does not KF
anyone, it would ruin his fun. He screwed up the other day and replied
directly to one of my posts, guess he is having trouble keeping track
of his neverending bull****.


Jimmy H did the same thing with one of mine last week. It's humorous.

Short Wave Sportfishing May 1st 07 12:18 AM

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:59:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bondo? I don't think so.


I agree with that.

Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.

What kind of boat is this?


It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.


Ahem...

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.

[email protected] May 1st 07 12:34 AM

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On Apr 30, 7:26 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 14:40:06 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 5:12 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 14:04:19 -0700, wrote:


On Apr 30, 4:55 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 13:04:23 -0700, wrote:


On Apr 30, 3:46 pm, wrote:
Bondo.- Hide quoted text -


Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************


- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


This is funny, harry has to pretend I am in his imaginary kill file ;)


I wonder if I'm in his kill file. If I am, he won't see your posts this way
either.


HTH!


CWM- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Now you ruined my fun. Anyway, little secret, harry does not KF
anyone, it would ruin his fun. He screwed up the other day and replied
directly to one of my posts, guess he is having trouble keeping track
of his neverending bull****.


Or maybe your self- aggrandizing mojo is so unspeakably great it gets by the
average bozo-bin. I know that when I stop yawning, I'll be REALLY impressed by
you.


CWM- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hummm, my input was that bondo and plastic is too britle, you
contribution is... Anyway, Lyman, that's it Lyman frekin fingers never
work right. I don't have the facility or time to restore anything much
less run and store it when it's done. And as to the sherrif, I just
wish someone here would let me in on the secret handshake (or
dickpull) that allows you all to quip back and fourth. Anyway, in case
harry is really working on a boat he should look into 3M 5200 or of
course there is always the traditional cotton stuffing. There Charlie,
now where's your contributon.. Gilmore Girls like I said before...


5200 is a bad suggestion. There are very few if any proper uses for it on a
boat.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Topside only, been a while.


[email protected] May 1st 07 12:44 AM

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On Apr 30, 7:26 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 14:40:06 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 5:12 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 14:04:19 -0700, wrote:


On Apr 30, 4:55 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 13:04:23 -0700, wrote:


On Apr 30, 3:46 pm, wrote:
Bondo.- Hide quoted text -


Bondo is probably to brittle, as is plastic wood. the best stuff to
use is ***************** or *****************


- Show quoted text -


As much as I love old wooden boats, (sell my soul for a llyman) and at
the risk of bad karma, I would rather see your project rot behind your
doublewide. Besides, anyone who would consider filling a beautiful
wooden boat with plastic wood, has obviously never worked on a real
wooden boat anyway, save a plywood skiff. Try the builders group,
maybe someone there doesn't know you yet.


This is funny, harry has to pretend I am in his imaginary kill file ;)


I wonder if I'm in his kill file. If I am, he won't see your posts this way
either.


HTH!


CWM- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Now you ruined my fun. Anyway, little secret, harry does not KF
anyone, it would ruin his fun. He screwed up the other day and replied
directly to one of my posts, guess he is having trouble keeping track
of his neverending bull****.


Or maybe your self- aggrandizing mojo is so unspeakably great it gets by the
average bozo-bin. I know that when I stop yawning, I'll be REALLY impressed by
you.


CWM- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hummm, my input was that bondo and plastic is too britle, you
contribution is... Anyway, Lyman, that's it Lyman frekin fingers never
work right. I don't have the facility or time to restore anything much
less run and store it when it's done. And as to the sherrif, I just
wish someone here would let me in on the secret handshake (or
dickpull) that allows you all to quip back and fourth. Anyway, in case
harry is really working on a boat he should look into 3M 5200 or of
course there is always the traditional cotton stuffing. There Charlie,
now where's your contributon.. Gilmore Girls like I said before...


5200 is a bad suggestion. There are very few if any proper uses for it on a
boat.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What would you use? Remember he is talking above the waterline.


Short Wave Sportfishing May 1st 07 12:47 AM

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:41:15 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

It's been more than a while. 5200 is the wrong tool for almost any job you can
name on a boat other than rebedding a keel. Even that is open to intelligent
discussion. Do you arc weld your key in the ignition to make sure it won't fall
out? Brush your teeth with battery acid to make sure no food particles remain?


Really.

Hmmm....

How about, oh, sealing a T-top or a stern hung transducer attached to
a fairing block?

Or sealing off flush cleats on the gunwale?

[email protected] May 1st 07 12:50 AM

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On Apr 30, 7:18 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:59:52 -0400, Harry Krause





wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Bondo? I don't think so.


I agree with that.


Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.


What kind of boat is this?


It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.


Ahem...

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Wow, 24 wide, clear, air dried? I bet it was. Man I think I'm gettin'
a hard on. Wonder if you could even replace that at any price now
adays.


[email protected] May 1st 07 12:57 AM

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Unless you have an intelligent suggestion of your own, this
conversation is over. Glad I did not hold my breath



RCE May 1st 07 12:58 AM

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wrote in message
oups.com...
. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.


What's a "profile"?

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing May 1st 07 01:03 AM

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:53:02 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:47:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:41:15 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

It's been more than a while. 5200 is the wrong tool for almost any job you can
name on a boat other than rebedding a keel. Even that is open to intelligent
discussion. Do you arc weld your key in the ignition to make sure it won't fall
out? Brush your teeth with battery acid to make sure no food particles remain?


Really.

Hmmm....

How about, oh, sealing a T-top


Absolutely NEVER!


or a stern hung transducer attached to
a fairing block?


Possibly

Or sealing off flush cleats on the gunwale?


Absolutely NEVER!


Ok, objections noted.

Why?

Short Wave Sportfishing May 1st 07 01:05 AM

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:58:02 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

What's a "profile"?


Remember when the kids were little and you used a desklamp to make
shadows on a wall and had the kids sit sideways while you traced out
the outline of their head on black paper?

Tha's a profile. :)

~~ I know - I know - wiseass ~~

~~ It's my destiny ~~

[email protected] May 1st 07 01:05 AM

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On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.


What's a "profile"?

Eisboch


look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.


RCE May 1st 07 01:17 AM

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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.


What's a "profile"?

Eisboch


look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.


Must be a "Google Groups" thing.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing May 1st 07 01:23 AM

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On 30 Apr 2007 16:50:43 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 30, 7:18 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:59:52 -0400, Harry Krause





wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Bondo? I don't think so.


I agree with that.


Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.


What kind of boat is this?


It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.


Ahem...

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

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Wow, 24 wide, clear, air dried? I bet it was. Man I think I'm gettin'
a hard on. Wonder if you could even replace that at any price now
adays.


Well, it can be done, but it's hard to do. You can get custom millers
like Hull Forest Products over in Pomfret to find some for you, but
it's not easy.

I bought them about ten years ago for a boat project I wanted to do -
build a Swampscott Dory, but I became involved in a different
restoration project and just never got around to it.

[email protected] May 1st 07 01:26 AM

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On Apr 30, 8:17 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
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groups.com...


. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
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Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.


What's a "profile"?


Eisboch


look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.


Must be a "Google Groups" thing.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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Must be, either way it is a tool I will be using more often before
responding to trolls. The attacker here seems to be very contrarian in
many groups, without much positive input that I can see. Would still
like to hear his suggestion as a solution to the origional post, hell,
he could turn over a new leaf ;)


Short Wave Sportfishing May 1st 07 01:27 AM

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On Tue, 01 May 2007 00:23:36 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 30 Apr 2007 16:50:43 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 30, 7:18 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:59:52 -0400, Harry Krause





wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bondo? I don't think so.

I agree with that.

Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.

What kind of boat is this?

It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.

Ahem...

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Wow, 24 wide, clear, air dried? I bet it was. Man I think I'm gettin'
a hard on. Wonder if you could even replace that at any price now
adays.


Well, it can be done, but it's hard to do. You can get custom millers
like Hull Forest Products over in Pomfret to find some for you, but
it's not easy.

I bought them about ten years ago for a boat project I wanted to do -
build a Swampscott Dory, but I became involved in a different
restoration project and just never got around to it.


Forgot to add that they are twelve feet long.

[email protected] May 1st 07 01:35 AM

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Wow, 24 wide, clear, air dried? I bet it was. Man I think I'm gettin'
a hard on. Wonder if you could even replace that at any price now
adays.


Well, it can be done, but it's hard to do. You can get custom millers
like Hull Forest Products over in Pomfret to find some for you, but
it's not easy.


I bought them about ten years ago for a boat project I wanted to do -
build a Swampscott Dory, but I became involved in a different
restoration project and just never got around to it.


Forgot to add that they are twelve feet long.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


OK, now you'r just rubbin' it in.





Harry Krause May 1st 07 01:41 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:59:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bondo? I don't think so.
I agree with that.

Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.

What kind of boat is this?

It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.


Ahem...

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.



A bit of overkill there. 3" thick? Sheesh.

Harry Krause May 1st 07 01:43 AM

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RCE wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.


What's a "profile"?

Eisboch



It's what you used to have before you started exercising.

Short Wave Sportfishing May 1st 07 01:50 AM

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:41:28 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:59:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bondo? I don't think so.
I agree with that.

Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.

What kind of boat is this?

It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.


Ahem...

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.


A bit of overkill there. 3" thick? Sheesh.


Hey - find a mill and have them resawed.

Short Wave Sportfishing May 1st 07 01:51 AM

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:43:29 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.


What's a "profile"?


It's what you used to have before you started exercising.


ROTFL!!!!

Harry Krause May 1st 07 02:02 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:41:28 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:59:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bondo? I don't think so.
I agree with that.

Ask the guys on rec.boats.building, someone will have a good
suggestion.

What kind of boat is this?

It's an old rowing dory. The hull is in good shape, the small forward
deck looks like pine. I might remove the deck entirely, and replace it
with a couple of pieces of 1" oak I have in the garage, or buy a nice
piece of marine ply.
Ahem...

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.

A bit of overkill there. 3" thick? Sheesh.


Hey - find a mill and have them resawed.



Uh, this "deck" is a bit of cover for the anchor rode at the bow. It's
about 18" long, and maybe 18" wide at its widest point. It's shaped like
a triangle and is two pieces of maybe 1/2" pine support by a little bit
of frame. It looks original to the boat, which is at least 50 years old,
and has been living in a shed for a long, long time. The planks in the
hull are in pretty good shape, no rot, no cracks. I'm just messing
around with it at the moment.

Calif Bill May 1st 07 02:07 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.


Well, it depends on how bad the seam is.

You could use bedding compound which is a fairing composite which I
used to use years ago - Interlux still makes a good compound - a
little pricey.

Or, you could use lead putty which I also don't know if they make
anymore with lead powder and linseed oil.

There is another way to make a bedding compound which I saw used on a
Towne Class sail boat a couple of years ago - fine ground calcium
carbonate and linseed oil - make a paste.

There are other options like chopped oakum and linseed oil - probably
the best through is a bedding compound.


How about a butyl rubber compound. Isn't that the stuff they used on the
decks of battleships?




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