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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:43:29 -0400, Harry Krause
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RCE wrote:
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Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.

What's a "profile"?

It's what you used to have before you started exercising.

ROTFL!!!!



I'll have you know it took many, many years to develop that "profile".

Hey, guess what? I woke up this morning with a mission in mind. Traded in
the F-350 PSD for a "trucklet".


RCE

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RCE wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:43:29 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
wrote in message
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. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.
What's a "profile"?
It's what you used to have before you started exercising.
ROTFL!!!!



I'll have you know it took many, many years to develop that "profile".

Hey, guess what? I woke up this morning with a mission in mind. Traded in
the F-350 PSD for a "trucklet".


RCE



What did you get? Toyota?

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.
A bit of overkill there. 3" thick? Sheesh.

Hey - find a mill and have them resawed.


Uh, this "deck" is a bit of cover for the anchor rode at the bow. It's
about 18" long, and maybe 18" wide at its widest point. It's shaped like
a triangle and is two pieces of maybe 1/2" pine support by a little bit of
frame. It looks original to the boat, which is at least 50 years old, and
has been living in a shed for a long, long time. The planks in the hull
are in pretty good shape, no rot, no cracks. I'm just messing around with
it at the moment.


So, buy one board from Short Wave, cut off a 2 foot section, break out your
pen knife and whittle it into shape. Plus, you'd have enough wood left over
for 5 more spare decks.

Simple.

Eisboch

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:09:52 -0400, "RCE" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:43:29 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.

What's a "profile"?

It's what you used to have before you started exercising.

ROTFL!!!!

I'll have you know it took many, many years to develop that "profile".

Hey, guess what? I woke up this morning with a mission in mind. Traded in
the F-350 PSD for a "trucklet".

Oh no - not a Toyota!!

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RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.
A bit of overkill there. 3" thick? Sheesh.
Hey - find a mill and have them resawed.

Uh, this "deck" is a bit of cover for the anchor rode at the bow. It's
about 18" long, and maybe 18" wide at its widest point. It's shaped like
a triangle and is two pieces of maybe 1/2" pine support by a little bit of
frame. It looks original to the boat, which is at least 50 years old, and
has been living in a shed for a long, long time. The planks in the hull
are in pretty good shape, no rot, no cracks. I'm just messing around with
it at the moment.


So, buy one board from Short Wave, cut off a 2 foot section, break out your
pen knife and whittle it into shape. Plus, you'd have enough wood left over
for 5 more spare decks.

Simple.

Eisboch




I didn't get this far into my dotage by doing things the "Shortwave Way."

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:43:29 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
wrote in message
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. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.
What's a "profile"?
It's what you used to have before you started exercising.
ROTFL!!!!



I'll have you know it took many, many years to develop that "profile".

Hey, guess what? I woke up this morning with a mission in mind. Traded
in the F-350 PSD for a "trucklet".


RCE

What did you get? Toyota?

No, but I looked at them. They are nice, especially with the new, bigger
V8, but I decided it was still too much truck for my current needs.

I got a Ford Ranger 4x4 .... "Off Road - Level II" or something like that.
I wanted a 4x4 and the ability to tow smaller trailers. This one has the
tow package, tranny cooler and a heavier suspension giving the trucklet a
higher GVW. It's rated to tow 6000 lbs, which is all I need.

It was also over $12k less than the bigger Toyota.

It's fun to buy a new vehicle when they give "you" a check along with the
new car/truck.

Eisboch

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On Tue, 01 May 2007 01:07:58 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.

Well, it depends on how bad the seam is.

You could use bedding compound which is a fairing composite which I
used to use years ago - Interlux still makes a good compound - a
little pricey.

Or, you could use lead putty which I also don't know if they make
anymore with lead powder and linseed oil.

There is another way to make a bedding compound which I saw used on a
Towne Class sail boat a couple of years ago - fine ground calcium
carbonate and linseed oil - make a paste.

There are other options like chopped oakum and linseed oil - probably
the best through is a bedding compound.

How about a butyl rubber compound. Isn't that the stuff they used on the
decks of battleships?

Oh, how about flipping the thing over and using it as a mold for a
carbon fiber boat?

Neat idea.

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:33:09 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

I got a Ford Ranger 4x4 .... "Off Road - Level II" or something like that.

Whew...thought for minute there you might have gone rogue on me. :)

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:31:37 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.
A bit of overkill there. 3" thick? Sheesh.
Hey - find a mill and have them resawed.

Uh, this "deck" is a bit of cover for the anchor rode at the bow. It's
about 18" long, and maybe 18" wide at its widest point. It's shaped like
a triangle and is two pieces of maybe 1/2" pine support by a little bit of
frame. It looks original to the boat, which is at least 50 years old, and
has been living in a shed for a long, long time. The planks in the hull
are in pretty good shape, no rot, no cracks. I'm just messing around with
it at the moment.

So, buy one board from Short Wave, cut off a 2 foot section, break out your
pen knife and whittle it into shape. Plus, you'd have enough wood left over
for 5 more spare decks.

Simple.

I didn't get this far into my dotage by doing things the "Shortwave Way."

Hey!!!

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:33:09 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

I got a Ford Ranger 4x4 .... "Off Road - Level II" or something like
that.

Whew...thought for minute there you might have gone rogue on me. :)


I had to go check. It's called a "FX4 - Level II".
Sorta looks like a miniature version of the F-350.

Eisboch

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RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:43:29 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.
What's a "profile"?
It's what you used to have before you started exercising.
ROTFL!!!!


I'll have you know it took many, many years to develop that "profile".

Hey, guess what? I woke up this morning with a mission in mind. Traded
in the F-350 PSD for a "trucklet".


RCE
What did you get? Toyota?

No, but I looked at them. They are nice, especially with the new, bigger
V8, but I decided it was still too much truck for my current needs.

I got a Ford Ranger 4x4 .... "Off Road - Level II" or something like that.
I wanted a 4x4 and the ability to tow smaller trailers. This one has the
tow package, tranny cooler and a heavier suspension giving the trucklet a
higher GVW. It's rated to tow 6000 lbs, which is all I need.

It was also over $12k less than the bigger Toyota.

It's fun to buy a new vehicle when they give "you" a check along with the
new car/truck.

Eisboch




Sheesh. I had a Ford Ranger once, a really pretty "Splash" truck. If I
recall, it had a tow capacity of about 3000 pounds with a small block
V6. It was a sweet truck, trouble-free. Enjoy.

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 00:03:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:53:02 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:47:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:41:15 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

It's been more than a while. 5200 is the wrong tool for almost any job you can
name on a boat other than rebedding a keel. Even that is open to intelligent
discussion. Do you arc weld your key in the ignition to make sure it won't fall
out? Brush your teeth with battery acid to make sure no food particles remain?
Really.

Hmmm....

How about, oh, sealing a T-top
Absolutely NEVER!


or a stern hung transducer attached to
a fairing block?

Possibly

Or sealing off flush cleats on the gunwale?
Absolutely NEVER!
Ok, objections noted.

Why?

Because it holds a little too well. On boats, leaks eventually develop
regardless of what you use to seal against them.To take something apart that was
put together with 5200 is extremely difficult at best, and usually results in
damage to adjoining surfaces. There are many better alternatives, including
4200.

CWM


Debond 2000. Never use 5200 without it.

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On Apr 30, 9:35 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:31:37 -0400, Harry Krause





wrote:
RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.
A bit of overkill there. 3" thick? Sheesh.
Hey - find a mill and have them resawed.

Uh, this "deck" is a bit of cover for the anchor rode at the bow. It's
about 18" long, and maybe 18" wide at its widest point. It's shaped like
a triangle and is two pieces of maybe 1/2" pine support by a little bit of
frame. It looks original to the boat, which is at least 50 years old, and
has been living in a shed for a long, long time. The planks in the hull
are in pretty good shape, no rot, no cracks. I'm just messing around with
it at the moment.

So, buy one board from Short Wave, cut off a 2 foot section, break out your
pen knife and whittle it into shape. Plus, you'd have enough wood left over
for 5 more spare decks.

Simple.

I didn't get this far into my dotage by doing things the "Shortwave Way."

Hey!!!- Hide quoted text -

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Oh well, time to go to work. I was hoping charlie would have backed up
his trolling with a solution by now, just another loud mouth a**hole I
guess. Night folks, fight nice.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Sheesh. I had a Ford Ranger once, a really pretty "Splash" truck. If I
recall, it had a tow capacity of about 3000 pounds with a small block V6.
It was a sweet truck, trouble-free. Enjoy.

This is actually the third Ranger I've owned, the first being a 1987 model.
I like them. The first two were very reliable and also trouble-free.
I think they are going to be discontinued in the future.

Eisboch

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Sheesh. I had a Ford Ranger once, a really pretty "Splash" truck. If I
recall, it had a tow capacity of about 3000 pounds with a small block V6.
It was a sweet truck, trouble-free. Enjoy.

Probably the same 3.0 liter V6 as I have in my 2006 Ranger.
My brother-in-law has the 4.0 liter engine in his 2007 4x4 Ranger.

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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Because it holds a little too well. On boats, leaks eventually develop
regardless of what you use to seal against them.To take something apart
that was
put together with 5200 is extremely difficult at best, and usually results
in
damage to adjoining surfaces. There are many better alternatives,
including
4200.

CWM


There are times though when nothing other than 5200 will do. My wife had a
car that had a wide, rubber band on the front bumper held on by whatever
adhesive General Motors used at the time. It kept popping off despite
several attempts by the dealer to reattach it. Finally, I remembered that I
had some 5200 and smeared some onto the back side of the rubber band, then
taped it in place against the bumper until it cured. It never moved again.

Eisboch

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:09:52 -0400, "RCE" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:43:29 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.

What's a "profile"?

It's what you used to have before you started exercising.

ROTFL!!!!

I'll have you know it took many, many years to develop that "profile".

Hey, guess what? I woke up this morning with a mission in mind. Traded
in
the F-350 PSD for a "trucklet".

Oh no - not a Toyota!!

That new Tundra is too darn big now... and up here you can't get the V6,
only the 2 V8 engines.
They start at just over $25K CDN.

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:51:22 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Tue, 01 May 2007 00:03:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:53:02 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:47:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:41:15 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

It's been more than a while. 5200 is the wrong tool for almost any job you can
name on a boat other than rebedding a keel. Even that is open to intelligent
discussion. Do you arc weld your key in the ignition to make sure it won't fall
out? Brush your teeth with battery acid to make sure no food particles remain?

Really.

Hmmm....

How about, oh, sealing a T-top

Absolutely NEVER!


or a stern hung transducer attached to
a fairing block?


Possibly

Or sealing off flush cleats on the gunwale?

Absolutely NEVER!

Ok, objections noted.

Why?

Because it holds a little too well. On boats, leaks eventually develop
regardless of what you use to seal against them.To take something apart that was
put together with 5200 is extremely difficult at best, and usually results in
damage to adjoining surfaces. There are many better alternatives, including
4200.

Nah - I've used 5200 for years and never had a problem. Use it for
all kinds of things including plastic plumbing.

And there is a debonder that works just fine and dandy - in fact, I
think it's called DeBond or something similar - I have some in the
garage. When I moved the fairing block for my stern mounted hi-power
transducer, used the debonder and it came off clean as a whistle.

Besides, I don't want things to come apart, I want them to stay where
I put them.

5200 rules!!

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On Apr 30, 9:53 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 17:26:39 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 8:17 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.

What's a "profile"?

Eisboch

look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.

Must be a "Google Groups" thing.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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Must be, either way it is a tool I will be using more often before
responding to trolls. The attacker here seems to be very contrarian in
many groups, without much positive input that I can see. Would still
like to hear his suggestion as a solution to the origional post, hell,
he could turn over a new leaf ;)

The only thing worse than an uninformed newbie, is an arrogant and idiotic
newbie.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text

Still don't have any useful info to provide huh. Silly old man, name
calling is so above you. Like I said, based on your posting history, I
would have expected less.

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Sheesh. I had a Ford Ranger once, a really pretty "Splash" truck. If I
recall, it had a tow capacity of about 3000 pounds with a small block V6.
It was a sweet truck, trouble-free. Enjoy.

Probably the same 3.0 liter V6 as I have in my 2006 Ranger.
My brother-in-law has the 4.0 liter engine in his 2007 4x4 Ranger.


The first Ranger I had (the '87) had, I think, a 2.8 liter V6 and a 5 speed
manual transmission. I drove it for over 150,000 miles (which was a lot in
those days) and it still ran like a top when I sold it. The only thing I
replaced was tires and brakes.

The second was a '00 or '01 with the 3.0 and an auto transmission.
I ran that all over Florida during the winters for 3 years, drove it back to
MA and sold it to my brother who drove it until very recently when he traded
it in with well over 100k miles. Never had a problem with either one.

The new one is the first 4x4 version and has the 4.0L engine. Hopefully, it
will be as reliable as the others.

Eisboch

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 01 May 2007 01:07:58 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.

Well, it depends on how bad the seam is.

You could use bedding compound which is a fairing composite which I
used to use years ago - Interlux still makes a good compound - a
little pricey.

Or, you could use lead putty which I also don't know if they make
anymore with lead powder and linseed oil.

There is another way to make a bedding compound which I saw used on a
Towne Class sail boat a couple of years ago - fine ground calcium
carbonate and linseed oil - make a paste.

There are other options like chopped oakum and linseed oil - probably
the best through is a bedding compound.

How about a butyl rubber compound. Isn't that the stuff they used on the
decks of battleships?

Oh, how about flipping the thing over and using it as a mold for a
carbon fiber boat?

Neat idea.

It is the deck, not the hull that is FUBAR.

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On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:34:08 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 01 May 2007 01:07:58 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.

Well, it depends on how bad the seam is.

You could use bedding compound which is a fairing composite which I
used to use years ago - Interlux still makes a good compound - a
little pricey.

Or, you could use lead putty which I also don't know if they make
anymore with lead powder and linseed oil.

There is another way to make a bedding compound which I saw used on a
Towne Class sail boat a couple of years ago - fine ground calcium
carbonate and linseed oil - make a paste.

There are other options like chopped oakum and linseed oil - probably
the best through is a bedding compound.

How about a butyl rubber compound. Isn't that the stuff they used on the
decks of battleships?

Oh, how about flipping the thing over and using it as a mold for a
carbon fiber boat?

Neat idea.

It is the deck, not the hull that is FUBAR.

So what? You can still make a carbon fiber copy. :)

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:34:08 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 01 May 2007 01:07:58 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint
them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want
to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.

Well, it depends on how bad the seam is.

You could use bedding compound which is a fairing composite which I
used to use years ago - Interlux still makes a good compound - a
little pricey.

Or, you could use lead putty which I also don't know if they make
anymore with lead powder and linseed oil.

There is another way to make a bedding compound which I saw used on a
Towne Class sail boat a couple of years ago - fine ground calcium
carbonate and linseed oil - make a paste.

There are other options like chopped oakum and linseed oil - probably
the best through is a bedding compound.

How about a butyl rubber compound. Isn't that the stuff they used on
the
decks of battleships?

Oh, how about flipping the thing over and using it as a mold for a
carbon fiber boat?

Neat idea.

It is the deck, not the hull that is FUBAR.

So what? You can still make a carbon fiber copy. :)

But you do not have to flip the boat for the deck. :)

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On Tue, 01 May 2007 03:42:31 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:34:08 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 01 May 2007 01:07:58 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:36:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...a seam-filling project.

It's been a long time since I have worked on a wood boat, so long that
even if I could remember what I used to fill seams and then paint
them,
I'm sure it no longer would be available.

So, here's what we have...a seam between two planks on a deck. I want
to
fill the seam with some sort of material that will dry to a fairly
smooth, sandable surface, be waterproof, and be paintable.

Plastic Wood? Anything better? I remember some "Petit" brand products
from 50 years ago, but I doubt they're still manufactured.

Well, it depends on how bad the seam is.

You could use bedding compound which is a fairing composite which I
used to use years ago - Interlux still makes a good compound - a
little pricey.

Or, you could use lead putty which I also don't know if they make
anymore with lead powder and linseed oil.

There is another way to make a bedding compound which I saw used on a
Towne Class sail boat a couple of years ago - fine ground calcium
carbonate and linseed oil - make a paste.

There are other options like chopped oakum and linseed oil - probably
the best through is a bedding compound.

How about a butyl rubber compound. Isn't that the stuff they used on
the
decks of battleships?

Oh, how about flipping the thing over and using it as a mold for a
carbon fiber boat?

Neat idea.

It is the deck, not the hull that is FUBAR.

So what? You can still make a carbon fiber copy. :)

But you do not have to flip the boat for the deck. :)

True.

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On Tue, 01 May 2007 10:28:47 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

There are times though when nothing other than 5200 will do. My wife had a
car that had a wide, rubber band on the front bumper held on by whatever
adhesive General Motors used at the time. It kept popping off despite
several attempts by the dealer to reattach it. Finally, I remembered that I
had some 5200 and smeared some onto the back side of the rubber band, then
taped it in place against the bumper until it cured. It never moved again.

Eisboch


I didn't say it should NEVER be used. I just said that people use it in a lot of
applications where it is the wrong thing, exactly because it is so tenacious.
There are very few uses for it on a boat.

Tenacity can be a good thing. I've found many good uses for it and
always carry some on the boat.

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 19:17:21 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 30, 9:53 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 17:26:39 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 8:17 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.
What's a "profile"?
Eisboch
look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.
Must be a "Google Groups" thing.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Must be, either way it is a tool I will be using more often before
responding to trolls. The attacker here seems to be very contrarian in
many groups, without much positive input that I can see. Would still
like to hear his suggestion as a solution to the origional post, hell,
he could turn over a new leaf ;)
The only thing worse than an uninformed newbie, is an arrogant and idiotic
newbie.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text
Still don't have any useful info to provide huh. Silly old man, name
calling is so above you. Like I said, based on your posting history, I
would have expected less.

So says the useless bomb-thrower who has no posting history at all.

CWM


Just filter him out. Easy.

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On May 1, 7:13 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 10:28:47 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:
There are times though when nothing other than 5200 will do. My wife had a
car that had a wide, rubber band on the front bumper held on by whatever
adhesive General Motors used at the time. It kept popping off despite
several attempts by the dealer to reattach it. Finally, I remembered that I
had some 5200 and smeared some onto the back side of the rubber band, then
taped it in place against the bumper until it cured. It never moved again.

Eisboch

I didn't say it should NEVER be used. I just said that people use it in a lot of
applications where it is the wrong thing, exactly because it is so tenacious.
There are very few uses for it on a boat.

Tenacity can be a good thing. I've found many good uses for it and
always carry some on the boat.

So as I move along to another summer of hard work and boating, I go
with the knowledge that the general concencus here, even with my
friend charlie is that 5200 indeed has several if not many uses on a
boat, including and most probably for harry whose repair will probably
be the last one his little boat needs. Someone should still paste him
my suggestion of Occoume, 5200, and a hand full of bronze silicone
ring nails available at most hardware stores or Glen-L.com.

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On May 1, 8:55 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 07:13:47 -0400, Wayne.B





wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 10:28:47 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

There are times though when nothing other than 5200 will do. My wife had a
car that had a wide, rubber band on the front bumper held on by whatever
adhesive General Motors used at the time. It kept popping off despite
several attempts by the dealer to reattach it. Finally, I remembered that I
had some 5200 and smeared some onto the back side of the rubber band, then
taped it in place against the bumper until it cured. It never moved again.

Eisboch

I didn't say it should NEVER be used. I just said that people use it in a lot of
applications where it is the wrong thing, exactly because it is so tenacious.
There are very few uses for it on a boat.

Tenacity can be a good thing.

Yes, it can. Not always, though. Part of doing a job well is selecting
the right tool for the job. A sledgehammer, properly applied will
certainly cure a headache.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In this case it is probably the perfect tool for harrys job but I can
understand your backpedal here. Don't worry, I am done with you, point
proved.

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On May 1, 11:36 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 1 May 2007 08:07:22 -0700, wrote:





On May 1, 8:55 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 07:13:47 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 10:28:47 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

There are times though when nothing other than 5200 will do. My wife had a
car that had a wide, rubber band on the front bumper held on by whatever
adhesive General Motors used at the time. It kept popping off despite
several attempts by the dealer to reattach it. Finally, I remembered that I
had some 5200 and smeared some onto the back side of the rubber band, then
taped it in place against the bumper until it cured. It never moved again.

Eisboch

I didn't say it should NEVER be used. I just said that people use it in a lot of
applications where it is the wrong thing, exactly because it is so tenacious.
There are very few uses for it on a boat.

Tenacity can be a good thing.

Yes, it can. Not always, though. Part of doing a job well is selecting
the right tool for the job. A sledgehammer, properly applied will
certainly cure a headache.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In this case it is probably the perfect tool for harrys job but I can
understand your backpedal here. Don't worry, I am done with you, point
proved.

Look, dimwit. I started out saying 5200 was appropriate for very few
jobs, and that's the postion I have maintained all through the thread.
So, where's the backpedal?

When you have a few minutes to spare, please stick a rope up your
ass... and then climb it.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You started off saying and I quote:
"5200 is a bad suggestion. There are very few if any proper uses for
it on a
boat.
It's been more than a while. 5200 is the wrong tool for almost any job
you can
name on a boat other than rebedding a keel. Even that is open to
intelligent
discussion. Do you arc weld your key in the ignition to make sure it
won't fall
out? Brush your teeth with battery acid to make sure no food particles
remain?"
Now that more that one other boater has suggested several great uses
for it on a boat and you, still have not come up with a better
solution for the origional poster you are just getting crude. No more
from you now, please.

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On May 1, 12:01 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 1 May 2007 08:45:54 -0700, wrote:





On May 1, 11:36 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 1 May 2007 08:07:22 -0700, wrote:

On May 1, 8:55 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 07:13:47 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 10:28:47 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

There are times though when nothing other than 5200 will do. My wife had a
car that had a wide, rubber band on the front bumper held on by whatever
adhesive General Motors used at the time. It kept popping off despite
several attempts by the dealer to reattach it. Finally, I remembered that I
had some 5200 and smeared some onto the back side of the rubber band, then
taped it in place against the bumper until it cured. It never moved again.

Eisboch

I didn't say it should NEVER be used. I just said that people use it in a lot of
applications where it is the wrong thing, exactly because it is so tenacious.
There are very few uses for it on a boat.

Tenacity can be a good thing.

Yes, it can. Not always, though. Part of doing a job well is selecting
the right tool for the job. A sledgehammer, properly applied will
certainly cure a headache.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In this case it is probably the perfect tool for harrys job but I can
understand your backpedal here. Don't worry, I am done with you, point
proved.

Look, dimwit. I started out saying 5200 was appropriate for very few
jobs, and that's the postion I have maintained all through the thread.
So, where's the backpedal?

When you have a few minutes to spare, please stick a rope up your
ass... and then climb it.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You started off saying and I quote:
"5200 is a bad suggestion. There are very few if any proper uses for
it on a
boat.
It's been more than a while. 5200 is the wrong tool for almost any job
you can
name on a boat other than rebedding a keel. Even that is open to
intelligent
discussion. Do you arc weld your key in the ignition to make sure it
won't fall
out? Brush your teeth with battery acid to make sure no food particles
remain?"
Now that more that one other boater has suggested several great uses
for it on a boat and you, still have not come up with a better
solution for the origional poster you are just getting crude. No more
from you now, please.

Okay, so you admit there was no backpedal. When you get to the top of
that rope, say hi to your mother for me.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My mom was a saint. Spent her life with art, music, church, theatre,
and children, playing the organ for my dad till the day she died. I
will not address your playground mentality anymore here unless of
course you actually come up with a better fix than the one I suggested
for the origional poster. And I guess you probably can't get much
lower or juvenile than to attack my mom anyway.

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On May 1, 3:31 pm, John H. wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 17:26:39 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 8:17 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.

What's a "profile"?

Eisboch

look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.

Must be a "Google Groups" thing.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Must be, either way it is a tool I will be using more often before
responding to trolls. The attacker here seems to be very contrarian in
many groups, without much positive input that I can see. Would still
like to hear his suggestion as a solution to the origional post, hell,
he could turn over a new leaf ;)

Do I have a profile? Does RCE? Does it say we are really nice people?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yours says that lately like me you have been caught up in some of the
bs, but at least you don't approach it with the attitude of a snot
nosed little kid.
http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...Xc24h6ww&hl=en

Eisbocks says he is probably a pretty serious boater, not getting
taken in by trolls nearly as much as some of us, in fact rarely at
all;)

http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...WQJyMx& hl=en

Good luck and fair seas.. this thread must die

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On 30 Apr 2007 17:26:39 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 30, 8:17 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.

What's a "profile"?

Eisboch

look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.

Must be a "Google Groups" thing.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Must be, either way it is a tool I will be using more often before
responding to trolls. The attacker here seems to be very contrarian in
many groups, without much positive input that I can see. Would still
like to hear his suggestion as a solution to the origional post, hell,
he could turn over a new leaf ;)

Do I have a profile? Does RCE? Does it say we are really nice people?

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On Tue, 01 May 2007 07:42:17 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 19:17:21 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 30, 9:53 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 17:26:39 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 8:17 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.
What's a "profile"?
Eisboch
look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.
Must be a "Google Groups" thing.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Must be, either way it is a tool I will be using more often before
responding to trolls. The attacker here seems to be very contrarian in
many groups, without much positive input that I can see. Would still
like to hear his suggestion as a solution to the origional post, hell,
he could turn over a new leaf ;)
The only thing worse than an uninformed newbie, is an arrogant and idiotic
newbie.

CWM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text
Still don't have any useful info to provide huh. Silly old man, name
calling is so above you. Like I said, based on your posting history, I
would have expected less.

So says the useless bomb-thrower who has no posting history at all.

CWM


Just filter him out. Easy.

Better yet, *pretend* to filter him out, like Harry and JimH do!

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On 30 Apr 2007 18:55:44 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 30, 9:35 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:31:37 -0400, Harry Krause





wrote:
RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I happen to have in dry storage, 12 pieces of 3 inch thick, 24 inch
wide, mostly clear pine which would be perfect for that project.

You'd have to resaw the planks, but they would be perfect.

I'll let you have them cheap.
A bit of overkill there. 3" thick? Sheesh.
Hey - find a mill and have them resawed.

Uh, this "deck" is a bit of cover for the anchor rode at the bow. It's
about 18" long, and maybe 18" wide at its widest point. It's shaped like
a triangle and is two pieces of maybe 1/2" pine support by a little bit of
frame. It looks original to the boat, which is at least 50 years old, and
has been living in a shed for a long, long time. The planks in the hull
are in pretty good shape, no rot, no cracks. I'm just messing around with
it at the moment.

So, buy one board from Short Wave, cut off a 2 foot section, break out your
pen knife and whittle it into shape. Plus, you'd have enough wood left over
for 5 more spare decks.

Simple.

I didn't get this far into my dotage by doing things the "Shortwave Way."

Hey!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh well, time to go to work. I was hoping charlie would have backed up
his trolling with a solution by now, just another loud mouth a**hole I
guess. Night folks, fight nice.

We try not to call a lot of names here. Well, some of us try. Some just
can't help themselves.

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On May 1, 4:55 pm, John H. wrote:
On 1 May 2007 11:39:11 -0700, wrote:





On May 1, 3:31 pm, John H. wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 17:26:39 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 30, 8:17 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.

What's a "profile"?

Eisboch

look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.

Must be a "Google Groups" thing.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Must be, either way it is a tool I will be using more often before
responding to trolls. The attacker here seems to be very contrarian in
many groups, without much positive input that I can see. Would still
like to hear his suggestion as a solution to the origional post, hell,
he could turn over a new leaf ;)

Do I have a profile? Does RCE? Does it say we are really nice people?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yours says that lately like me you have been caught up in some of the
bs, but at least you don't approach it with the attitude of a snot
nosed little kid.
http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...MAAAAUY52j2xqv...

Eisbocks says he is probably a pretty serious boater, not getting
taken in by trolls nearly as much as some of us, in fact rarely at
all;)

http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...8AAAC2OuLi9AUc...

Good luck and fair seas.. this thread must die

One must have to be a member. I couldn'd locate any of the comments to
which you refer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

the comments are my own opinion, based on the context of the last
several messages you all posted to the group.

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On 1 May 2007 11:39:11 -0700, wrote:

On May 1, 3:31 pm, John H. wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 17:26:39 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 30, 8:17 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

On Apr 30, 7:58 pm, "RCE" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

. Oh by the way, chuck you farley, still waiting for
your valuable input here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oooops, sorry charlie, guess I should have read your profile before I
asked about your valuable input. Not to worry, now that I have, I
won't be holding my breath.

What's a "profile"?

Eisboch

look at the top of the post next to your name where it says "view
profile". You can go there and read past posts by a poster to
determine if he/she has posted relavent information, or if they just
throw intellectually lazy attacks to gain attention. Me, sometimes I
troll, sometimes I try to add good info but you can make your own
judgements there.

Must be a "Google Groups" thing.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Must be, either way it is a tool I will be using more often before
responding to trolls. The attacker here seems to be very contrarian in
many groups, without much positive input that I can see. Would still
like to hear his suggestion as a solution to the origional post, hell,
he could turn over a new leaf ;)

Do I have a profile? Does RCE? Does it say we are really nice people?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yours says that lately like me you have been caught up in some of the
bs, but at least you don't approach it with the attitude of a snot
nosed little kid.
http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...Xc24h6ww&hl=en

Eisbocks says he is probably a pretty serious boater, not getting
taken in by trolls nearly as much as some of us, in fact rarely at
all;)

http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...WQJyMx& hl=en

Good luck and fair seas.. this thread must die

One must have to be a member. I couldn'd locate any of the comments to
which you refer.

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On May 1, 2:31 pm, John H. wrote:


Do I have a profile? Does RCE? Does it say we are really nice people?- Hide quoted text -


I don't have a profile and I try to be nice....