On May 6, 4:18 am, "krueger" wrote:
"riverman" wrote:
On May 5, 10:02 am, "krueger" wrote:
Last summer did a 6 day 5 night self contained trip on the Smith in
Montana
in a Legend, but I will admit it was with 4 other tandem canoes, 11
people &
one yellow lab. We weren't lacking for room, and even brought the
kitchen
table. So maybe I misused the word "tripping", what term should I have
used?

Carol

11 people and a yellow lab in 5 canoes, including a
Legend...backpacking out of a canoe? Four in the back, Four in the
front, one in the glovebox?

Did you carry all your own gear, plus your share of the kitchen/group
gear? I'm impressed...I have a BlueHole 17A, a MR Explorer 15 and a MR
Legend, and at 15' I find the legend too small to run loaded through
anything but the most forgiving class 1-2. For extended tripping, I
would not want a cooler, kitchen box, roll-a-table, chairs, fishing
gear, camping gear and personal duffel in there with me.

--riverman-
Riverman,

Let's see, in the Legend, we carried two bills bags, therma-rests, 2 roll
chairs, tent, tarp, dry bag with rain gear, York box, personal day bags, and
all of this on top of the raft table. When we did this trip 10 years ago,
it was minus the table and all packed into one Dagger Dimension. So
comparatively speaking, we had lots of room.

One thing that's nice about this particular river, is that we didn't have to
take Scat Packers , as each campsite had pit toilets. That makes a big
difference.

If I remember correctly, we had of two ice chests, two other gear boxes, 15
gallons of water, gravity water filter, and small Action Packer as
additional community gear.

I will agree with you though, that I would not have wanted to do class 3
rivers loaded like this. The Smith River has class 2 drop on the last day,
otherwise, it's pretty much a float.

If you're curious, check out: WWW.rapids2.myphotoalbum.com

Scroll down to the folder that says, 6 RPC Outings, then click on sub album:
Smith River, Montana. I also added two pictures from the 1996 trip showing
the loaded Dimension's.

Carol


Hi Carol:
Oops, my bad. I don't own a Legend (and since MR is now manufacturing
them, I guess I see why that slipped through). I have a BH 17A, an
Explorer 16, and a MR Courier (which is essentially a 14.5 foot
Explorer). I just bought it at the start of last summer from another
RBPer (Fred Klingener) and have only paddled it a few times before
storing it in Maine at a friend's farm.

Anyway, although its now way off topic, you can see the boat in this
picture with Fred and his dog in it, and you can see why I'd be amazed
that two people plus gear could even consider paddling it tandem.
http://tinyurl.com/2v9vjx Nonetheless, there was a raging debate on
http://tinyurl.com/2otdny about just that.

Nonetheless, the pics of your Smith trip look great, but I gotta
admit; some of those loads look pretty sky-high. I prefer to keep my
load below the rails, or at most, only a few inches above. Sidewinds,
and all.

--riverman

(BTW, not to be a netnanny, but top-posting is usually frowned upon)